Spurs: The importance of Repeating.

[Caltex2]

That's partially true but there's nothing like being the team everyone is gunning for. Winning a le puts a bullseye on your back.

[DMC]

That's partially true but there's nothing like being the team everyone is gunning for. Winning a le puts a bullseye on your back.

Which the Phoenix Mercury know very well.

[da_suns_fan]

That's the standard response, but I don't buy it. As good as the Spurs have been for 20+ years, everybody plays hard against them regardless. You really think opposing players are saying "They only made it to the conference finals last year, so let's only go at 80% tonight"? No in' way.

Professional athletes always play hard. Fans infer a lot of nonsense.

Are you really comparing a Spurs visit to a Bulls/Lakers/Heat dynasty visit?

I PROMISE you, no one cares.

[Arcadian]

Are you really comparing a Spurs visit to a Bulls/Lakers/Heat dynasty visit?

I PROMISE you, no one cares.

I'm not comparing anything to anything. You are. All I'm saying is, nobody takes the Spurs lightly given their reputation over the last 20+ years. I promise you that.

[ambchang]

* season because it's shorter , really it isn't rocket science. Longer season = different result.

So like I said, every single season prior to 2003 should be asterisked then. They only had a best of 5 series rather than a best of 7 in the first round.

Also longer season doesn't necessarily mean different result, it could be a different result, but that is true for a LOT more than just a shortened season. Injuries, officiating, the ball bouncing a certain way, weather conditions, cancelled games, they all could lead to a different result, so your rationale is basically saying all seasons should be asterisked.

Me having to constantly explain everything really proves your at the bottom level, and I wouldn't expect a racist Texan to understand my logic , I told you I am above you, when I read your posts I am in fear of becoming less intelligent. I won't let you do that, so stop it. That being said , all these are but salty deflections of why your Spurs could never repeat as champs. Is it because pop is easily exposed ? Is it because Jim never had the guts to defend his le? First round exits , losing to lower seeds ? What's the reason.

So many things wrong with that paragraph, I had to put it in point form:
1) You having to constantly explain everything could be attributed to the horrible logic you have, which I am really seeing so far
2) Not sure what a racist Texan would have to do with anything
3) You shouldn't expect anyone to understand your logic, because there is none
4) You claiming you are above me is hilarious at best. Your posts have constantly shown how illogical you are, with you putting your hypothesis as proof
5) You don't have to be in fear of becoming less intelligent, or you'd be a plant
6) I am not trying to make you less intelligent, it's not possible
7) Spurs could never repeat as champs have nothing to do with a season in 99, a season you somehow mysteriously put an asterisk on. I am having even more trouble understanding how asking questions on an asterisk has anything to do with the Spurs not being able to repeat.
8) I already showed the reason, teams that have the luxury of having multiple spare parts are the ones that can repeat. And the Spurs, a small market team is not one that can afford that. 00, Duncan got hurt, severe rule changes that stopped how the Spurs defend the perimeter. 04, Robinson retired, sever lack of outside shooting with Jackson gone. 06, Mavs was just a better team, 08, change in roster, 15, injuries. It really isn't rocket science to see that a team that can afford to get the spare parts to weather those injuries or can afford to sign back the right players would mitigate those risks, but then self-proclaimed intelligent beings like you like to attribute these things to "easily exposed", "heart" and "guts", because someone who lacks hearts and guts and can be easily exposed most certainly can win 5 championships.

[DMC]

Are you really comparing a Spurs visit to a Bulls/Lakers/Heat dynasty visit?

I PROMISE you, no one cares.

Yet here you are, on Spurstalk.com.

[da_suns_fan]

Yet here you are, on Spurstalk.com.

Its a great site. That doesnt mean anyone cares when the Spurs come to town.

Certainly not like the Lakers/Bulls/Heat dynasties anyway.

[whitemamba]

So like I said, every single season prior to 2003 should be asterisked then. They only had a best of 5 series rather than a best of 7 in the first round.

Also longer season doesn't necessarily mean different result, it could be a different result, but that is true for a LOT more than just a shortened season. Injuries, officiating, the ball bouncing a certain way, weather conditions, cancelled games, they all could lead to a different result, so your rationale is basically saying all seasons should be asterisked.



So many things wrong with that paragraph, I had to put it in point form:
1) You having to constantly explain everything could be attributed to the horrible logic you have, which I am really seeing so far
2) Not sure what a racist Texan would have to do with anything
3) You shouldn't expect anyone to understand your logic, because there is none
4) You claiming you are above me is hilarious at best. Your posts have constantly shown how illogical you are, with you putting your hypothesis as proof
5) You don't have to be in fear of becoming less intelligent, or you'd be a plant
6) I am not trying to make you less intelligent, it's not possible
7) Spurs could never repeat as champs have nothing to do with a season in 99, a season you somehow mysteriously put an asterisk on. I am having even more trouble understanding how asking questions on an asterisk has anything to do with the Spurs not being able to repeat.
8) I already showed the reason, teams that have the luxury of having multiple spare parts are the ones that can repeat. And the Spurs, a small market team is not one that can afford that. 00, Duncan got hurt, severe rule changes that stopped how the Spurs defend the perimeter. 04, Robinson retired, sever lack of outside shooting with Jackson gone. 06, Mavs was just a better team, 08, change in roster, 15, injuries. It really isn't rocket science to see that a team that can afford to get the spare parts to weather those injuries or can afford to sign back the right players would mitigate those risks, but then self-proclaimed intelligent beings like you like to attribute these things to "easily exposed", "heart" and "guts", because someone who lacks hearts and guts and can be easily exposed most certainly can win 5 championships.

[DMC]

Its a great site. That doesnt mean anyone cares when the Spurs come to town.

Certainly not like the Lakers/Bulls/Heat dynasties anyway.

You cared, thus you came here.

[ambchang]

Sort of a pointless reply from you, wasn't it?

[whitemamba]

Sort of a pointless reply from you, wasn't it?

Why do you let me get to you?

[ambchang]

Why do you let me get to you?

Why are you asking questions that are actually untrue statements?

[whitemamba]

Why are you asking questions that are actually untrue statements?

Please.

[ambchang]

Please.

Please what?

[whitemamba]

Please what?

you know.

[ambchang]

you know.

No, not really.

You have to be clear in your communications.

Perhaps something you can learn going forward, son.

[whitemamba]

No, not really.

You have to be clear in your communications.

Perhaps something you can learn going forward, son.

Lol you talikg about being clear.. That killed me. Kudos.

[ambchang]

Lol you talikg about being clear.. That killed me. Kudos.

Couldn't be more clear, but then again, it's could be me being unclear or you being stupid, and based no the back and forth, we both know what the reason is.

[whitemamba]

Couldn't be more clear, but then again, it's could be me being unclear or you being stupid, and based no the back and forth, we both know what the reason is.

what ever floats your boat old man.

[ambchang]

what ever floats your boat old man.

Clear communication does.

[djohn2oo8]

"Repeating" is arbitrary. It just means you won two championships, and they happened to be in consecutive years. It's no more impressive than winning 2 les in 3 years - or in the Spurs' case, 3 in 5.

Yes it is impressive. Because only 5 franchises have ever done it.

[ambchang]

Yes it is impressive. Because only 5 franchises have ever done it.

And one of them are the Rockets, which just tells you how unimpressive it really is.

[140]

And one of them are the Rockets, which just tells you how unimpressive it really is.

[Killakobe81]

Yes it is impressive. Because only 5 franchises have ever done it.

This.
And dont let them hate on the clutch city les.
No way MJ stops both les.
he was mentally done, The cowards who murdred his father saw to that.
Even if he doesnt retire... I think the Rox get at least one le ... maybe both who knows?!

People forget they did not even have rodman or Horace grant in those years the Rox won les ...who was going to defend front-court guys in the Bulls rotation? Hakeem would murder that Bulls front-court.

I do think MJ and Pippen would smother Drexler, Cassell and Kenny Smith though ...young Horry who had hops and pippen would be fun ...

[ambchang]

This.
And dont let them hate on the clutch city les.
No way MJ stops both les.
he was mentally done.
The cowards who murdred his father saw to that.
Even if he doesnt retire I think Rox get at least one le ... maybe both who knows?!

People forget they did not even have rodman or Horace grant in those years the Rox won les ...who was going to defend front-court guys in the Bulls rotation?

I do think MJ and Pippen would smother Drexler, Cassell and Kenny Smith though ...young Horry who had hops and pippen would be fun

I always thought the Rockets match up well with the Bulls in those years, especially the 94 version. I think Maxwell, because as much of a nutcase as he was, would match up with Jordan well (better than Drexler), and Hakeem would just beast on the Bulls frontline. Horry and Pippen would be a great matchup like you said, but the Bulls will not have enough perimeter defenders to hone in on all those three point shooters. You double Hakeem and one of the three point shooters will be open, you don't double Hakeem and it's two points. On the other end, Hakeem shuts down the paint, and the perimeter defenders like Maxwell, Elie and Horry will stop pretty much anyone.

That said, those five with repeats are:

Heat - fantastic team, but great? Please.
Lakers - great great teams in 87 and 88, 00 to 02 (though 00 and 02 are slightly overrated due to 01), but 09 and 10 were some of the weaker champs in recent years. I mean MVPau is great and all, but he's not like Shaq or Duncan great.
Celtics - All of them were in the 60s, and besides, wasn't those Bird Celtics great? 08 Celtics were also better than 09 or 10 Lakers.
Pistons - Changed the way the game was played, but were they great? Kind of. They are, however viewed mostly as a bridge between the Celtics/Lakers and the Bulls
Bulls - great teams, no arguing that.

Repeats can be due to a number of factors:
1) Historically great teams, and you can see those with the Bulls and lakers, and to an extent the Russell Celtics
2) Weak compe ion, MVPau lakers, Heat to a degree
3) Changing rules and ability to adapt - Pistons, Heat, Lakers
4) Luck - Hurt Isiah, mysterious suspension of all types of Rockets and Mavs players when the entire league was doing drugs, injuries to Celtics, 20+ FTA in the fourth quarter, getting a foul by busting somebody's nose with your elbow, 6, Hamstring injuries

Out of all those repeat teams, I can only say that the Bulls and Celtics were the only ones who would repeat under almost any cir stances (other than plane crash and meteor hit the stadium events), the other teams had a lot of things that went right for them to repeat.