Cavs: Kyrie Irving......... Best PG in the NBA now?

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What a difference one shot in game 7 makes. Kyrie took like ten shots in the 4th quarter of that game and missed almost all of them. Many of those shots were his signature "heat-check-when-cold" shots.

I guess you turned off your TV for game 5 when Kyrie had 41pts and shot over 50pct. I guess you missed the other 24pts he drained on Curry the MVP in game 7, and also the key putback and other 2 kiss the glass incredible shots as well.

Kyrie avg 25.2pts for the entire 2016 playoffs and upped that to 27.1pts per game in the finals against Curry. So GTFO with that bull like Kyrie got lucky on that 3. He DOMINATED in the playoffs and it wasnt even close with any other point guard.

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I guess you turned off your TV for game 5 when Kyrie had 41pts and shot over 50pct. I guess you missed the other 24pts he drained on Curry the MVP in game 7, and also the key putback and other 2 kiss the glass incredible shots as well.

I'm sure the Cavs fans would be talking about how Kyrie's the best player on the team if that three doesn't go down and they lose.

I've already said that Kyrie is amazing when his shot is falling. Doesn't make him the best player on his team or the best PG in the league. Doesn't mean he didn't stink it up by shooting them out of game 4.

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I'm sure the Cavs fans would be talking about how Kyrie's the best player on the team if that three doesn't go down and they lose.

I've already said that Kyrie is amazing when his shot is falling. Doesn't make him the best player on his team or the best PG in the league. Doesn't mean he didn't stink it up by shooting them out of game 4.

This thread was a question...........not fact.

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This thread was a question...........not fact.

Then prepare for someone to potentially answer the question in a way you don't like. Kyrie's got as much talent as anyone in the league. Maybe more. He's ing amazing. He's got amazing handles, he's got amazing ability to make shots, both inside and outside, and he's got a habit of taking terrible shots without a lot of regard for game situation. As with his career so far, he was up and down in the series, so he's going to have to show some consistency before I rank him equal to his talent.

[JoeTait75]

Doesn't mean he didn't stink it up by shooting them out of game 4.

LeBron's ball-stopping is what killed them at the end of Game 4, not anything Kyrie did. Kyrie should've gotten it more at the end of that game.

I'm not saying the kid played perfectly and I'm sure as not saying he was better than LeBron... but for a 24-year old in his first Finals, to clearly outplay the two-time MVP on both ends, to come up with 41 on 17-of-24 on the road in an elimination Game 5, to nail the Finals-winning shot in the last minute of Game 7... I mean, I'm not sure anyone can ask much more from him. And again, I'm not going to say he's the best PG in the game, but there is no reason he can't be within the next couple of years.

[jeebus]

He carried LeDecline to a le; that makes him pretty damn good.

[whitemamba]

He carried LeDecline to a le; that makes him pretty damn good.

Becareful Jeebus, your fellow spur fan will excommunicate you for statements like this.

[Stalin]

A PGs role in todays NBA has changed. Look at Rose, Lillard, Wall, Curry and Kyrie. They aren't the pass first guards like Stockton, Magic and Rondo. They have shooting and scoring ability with great handles. So you cant say Irving should be a SG. He is a PG that happens to shoot well.

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Then prepare for someone to potentially answer the question in a way you don't like. Kyrie's got as much talent as anyone in the league. Maybe more. He's ing amazing. He's got amazing handles, he's got amazing ability to make shots, both inside and outside, and he's got a habit of taking terrible shots without a lot of regard for game situation. As with his career so far, he was up and down in the series, so he's going to have to show some consistency before I rank him equal to his talent.

If 27pts per game in a 7 game series is inconsistent. I will take it all day long. He torched the league MVP.

[Kawhitstorm]

Irving is a SG trapped in PG's body imho. Dude would be better off if accompanied by a play-making PG who has size and plays solid D (like Kidd).

Kyrie doesn't need anyone creating shots for him, Cavs just need another person running the offense & they already have one: LeBron.

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An incredible stat line:

Kyrie averaged 22pts a game in the regular season, 25 pts a game in the first 3 rounds of the playoffs, and then 27 pts a game in the final 7 games. That is almost unheard of outside of MJ, Lebron and various superstars that win the Championship. Most others scoring average drops off. Ask Kobe the mamba Bryant how that worked out for him.

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LeBron's ball-stopping is what killed them at the end of Game 4, not anything Kyrie did. Kyrie should've gotten it more at the end of that game.

Dude shot the ball ten times and made two. How many more chances did he need?

I'm not saying the kid played perfectly and I'm sure as not saying he was better than LeBron... but for a 24-year old in his first Finals, to clearly outplay the two-time MVP on both ends, to come up with 41 on 17-of-24 on the road in an elimination Game 5, to nail the Finals-winning shot in the last minute of Game 7... I mean, I'm not sure anyone can ask much more from him. And again, I'm not going to say he's the best PG in the game, but there is no reason he can't be within the next couple of years.

God damn. Lebron averaged 30 points, 11 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals and over 2 blocks per game in the playoffs. If all Cavs fans are saying stupid like the above, don't be surprised when he's gone.

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An incredible stat line:

Kyrie averaged 22pts a game in the regular season, 25 pts a game in the first 3 rounds of the playoffs, and then 27 pts a game in the final 7 games. That is almost unheard of outside of MJ, Lebron and various superstars that win the Championship. Most others scoring average drops off. Ask Kobe the mamba Bryant how that worked out for him.

Well he hit one big shot at the end of a big playoff game. That makes him better than Kobe already.

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God damn. Lebron averaged 30 points, 11 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals and over 2 blocks per game in the playoffs. If all Cavs fans are saying stupid like the above, don't be surprised when he's gone.

Pretty sure he was talking about Cucky tbh

[JoeTait75]

God damn. Lebron averaged 30 points, 11 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals and over 2 blocks per game in the playoffs. If all Cavs fans are saying stupid like the above, don't be surprised when he's gone.

I was talking about Steph, not LeBron.

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I was talking about Steph, not LeBron.

. I was trying to figure that one out. Clearly I whiffed on that one. Sorry.

Yeah, he outplayed the out of Steph. He's amazing. He has all the tools to be better than Curry. He was great for most of the finals. They wouldn't have won without him. I just want him to do it steadily over a period of time before I crown him best at his position.

[HarlemHeat37]

When he's off his game(which is often), he's a cancer, as we have seen throughout his career(Cavs have been better when he's off the floor during his entire career IIRC, including the past 2 seasons)..

They were fortunate that he had a hot playoff stretch, since he's a top 5 scorer in the league when his shot is on..he's comparable to Lillard(Irving is better at driving and finishing, Lillard is a better shooter), but not nearly as good as Curry/Westbrook/Paul..

[JoeTait75]

. I was trying to figure that one out. Clearly I whiffed on that one. Sorry.

Yeah, he outplayed the out of Steph. He's amazing. He has all the tools to be better than Curry. He was great for most of the finals. They wouldn't have won without him. I just want him to do it steadily over a period of time before I crown him best at his position.

It's all good. BTW, you were right about Game 4- I took a look at the play-by-play and Kyrie took a lot more shots in the fourth than I remember.

Main things Kyrie needs to do is play more consistent defense and become at least a little more of a distributor. A lot of defense is just effort, but balancing the scorer's mentality with the need to get other guys involved is always going to be a battle with him. He's such a gifted offensive player, but at the same time he can't freeze out his teammates and dribble the air out of the ball.

[jeebus]

Becareful Jeebus, your fellow spur fan will excommunicate you for statements like this.

I don't associate myself with those cucks.

[whitemamba]

I don't associate myself with those cucks.

I always knew you were a real

[Stalin]

I don't associate myself with those cucks.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Kyrie is definitely not getting enough love in the media for this le. LeBron had unbelievable stats but Irving hit the coldest shot I have seen since... , I can't even think of another shot like his. A shot with the game tied that was defended well that completely buried the other team. To stick that shot right in Curry's face and to take it from tie game to game over.

Parker's shot in 6 right in LeBron's face that put us up.

It was dirty.

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Parker's shot in 6 right in LeBron's face that put us up.

It was dirty.

That shot tied the game. The shot that put the Spurs up was Parker's turnaround on Chalmers on the next possession.

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Of course not. As a Kobe disciple, I'm certain that passing never crossed his mind.

Maybe not, but like Kobe winning crossed his mind.