Spurs always pick nigs with bad names Jajuan, Dejuan, Dejounte, Deshaun and lots of Andersons.
Splitter at center, Durant and LMA at forwards,
Kawhi and Murray at guards!
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not bad hey.....
Spurs are assembling a tremendously athletic backcourt of the future:
With Kawhi Leonard, J Simmons and Murray!!!!!
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!
more to come, I assume......
Same went about FatheadChad Ford ESPN Senior Writer
The San Antonio Spurs select Washington PG DeJounte Murray with the No. 29 pick. Steal of the draft. He was ranked No. 9 on my final Big Board bling, athletic and a great feel. If his shooting improves he could be the best PG in the draft. He could be an All-Star someday. Seriously. Typical Spurs. They got a lottery pick at 29.
Pelton's analytic projection numbers on him were pretty bad, enough that he has significant bust potential. In fact for his analytic mock draft on what teams should do he had Murray at 31.
Fathead was decent last year. People are too hard on him for no apparent reason. He's 22 and already slightly above average. Looking at 2014 draft, he is fifth in WS/48 (played at least 10 MPG). He is going to be a very good player.
He has upside and Kawai coming into the NBA, couldn't shoot a lick. Let Englannd have a shot before you bash the pick. He gets to the rim and can pass.
Selected on pure potential. His advanced college stats are average at best. He's one big project, basically. Nowhere near rotation NBA player for now but he's gifted physically, no doubt.
Kawhi's first college season
109.5 ORTG, 90.6 DRTG, 0.188 WS/40
Fathead's first college season
108.9 ORTG, 93.6 DRTG, 9.0 BPM, 0.144 WS/40
Dejounte's first and only college season
99.7 ORTG, 102.1 DRTG, 4.3 BPM, 0.098 WS/40
Livingston was a beast before his knee exploded. If anything Murray is a poor man's version of pre-injury Livingston.
How well do Pelton's projections track over the years? What's their predictive power?
He's already more or less fixed his major glaring weakness, which is perimeter defense. When he's consistent from outside he'll be even better. I like him.
How can he bust if he was selected two spots above that ranking?
He's pure potential. I'm sure the Spurs were thinking, what would this kid look like after one or two years of college ball? What if he trained with us instead? He already has an elite skill in ball handling, may soon have another in defense. If they get his decision making, maturity, and shooting together, the Kawhi Leonard comparions are not far fetched.
I don't have a link to any of his collective work, but he recently did a podcast with David Locke where he talks about it and the successes and the below replacement level projection that Jaylen Brown ranks at which was compared historically to something below a threshold for not busting and Murray was close but above the line.
He toots his own horn but emphasizes it has to go hand in hand with scouting. But Draymond and Crowder were supposedly his two gems that year that the stats has as top 10 productive.
Big picture is that I'll take Pelton's opinion over Ford's when they contradict every day of the week. Because at least I can be sure that Pelton's opinions are informed opinions and based on something, even if they turn out wrong. Ford just spews crap, and I can't tell if it's his own bad scouting or something he was fed by agents or under the influence of teams or other involved parties.
They even work together and collaborate on ESPN, so they and their work is tied together. But if I could only read/listen to the opinions of one of the two, give me the guy who cautions the warning signs of risky projects over the rah rah top ten all star Darko=LeBron character.
Pelton with regards to busting was talking about rankings pre-draft for him which were higher than his own. Such as Ford gushing for him.
Obviously any pick near the end of the first can't really 'bust' compared to expected value. But people aren't expecting typical value, but rather hyped top 10 all star results.
That's why I was posting the gist of Pelton's take on him as a counter balance to the exuberance
oh wow he has got Kobe's potential. I'm calling it.
I should also add that Pelton's work very strongly agreed with my views on Gary Payton II, so the confirmation bias with me was powerful. Clearly agreeing with me shows that his system is pure genius.
Fwiw, Chad Ford also did a podcast with David Locke and loved on Murray pre-draft, essentially advocating that the Jazz pick Murray (this was pre Hill trade). But my previous disregard for his opinions have me severely down on anything he says. Strangely, he was the one who brought up Pelton's danger threshold with Locke and suggested he ask Pelton about it for the later podcast, seemingly endorsing it's unusual accuracy as a predictive tool. Though without much regard for how close Murray was to the danger zone
Too bad he already has a nickname, according to my Google ninja skills, it's"Baby Boy".
he didn't look happy being drafted low
But I like the pick hes young and can be developed
our team is getting en old!!!!!
.....any thoughts?????
I think having that young talent in this team might help kawhi to be a better leader when Murray said he wants to learn from leonard and Leonard will be in mentor kinda role.
I'm sure Kawhi's like "What? I guess I had nothing to do with my own development."
If Kawhi thinks like that, he's a huge asshole. Good thing he doesn't.I'm sure Kawhi's like "What? I guess I had nothing to do with my own development.
So you think Kawhi thinks Pop "turned him" into a great player?? I doubt it.
So you're saying I get to root for both D. Murray AND Ezekiel Elliott this year???
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