Report: Spurs set to bring over Livio Jean-Charles

[tonight...you]

you're wrong. the spurs problem is scoring. not defense. not rebounding. scoring.

Against OKC, if they remain intact, there is definitely a rebounding problem. Do you not remember that at all?

[K...]

Yeah, like the development coaches are giving Kyle undefined instructions on what to improve upon and Pop has no expectations on him except for some nebulous improvement on "stuff".

The fact is Kyle gets out on that court and just does things that he's reacting to according to what he sees. He hasn't done anything to specifically improve his game significantly except for getting more comfortable with his team and playing in the NBA.
Yippee.

Kawhi did not have an easier mission. He merely hurdled his obstacles enough to proceed to the next hurdle through dedication and hard work.

My god man...

Huh? I don't understand your case?


Kyle is a ball dominant player. This year he played entirely off ball. He played in a manu dominant system. He played with turd towers.

Do you know if he's a 3or 4? Kind of hard to develop an offensive game with out that info. This team had too many fours so kyle played a 3. Maybe that's not his long term position.




Kawhi is a physical beast. When he started playing for us he didn't need to learn the offense. He was a garbage man. He's slowly added his overweight skill.

Kyle had played better defense than many have expected. What if the coaches told him to do that?

Undoubtedly he's been told to shoot better. But judging him just on outside shooting is dumb. His game is driving. The spurs haven't featured him so we haven't seen the true kyle.

[dabom]

[tholdren]

Against OKC, if they remain intact, there is definitely a rebounding problem. Do you not remember that at all?

spurs scored 103+ ppg in the regular season. It's no coincidence that each game they scored less than 100, they lost. Problem is the scoring, not the defense not the rebounding, the scoring.

[tonight...you]

Huh? I don't understand your case?


Kyle is a ball dominant player. This year he played entirely off ball. He played in a manu dominant system. He played with turd towers.

Do you know if he's a 3or 4? Kind of hard to develop an offensive game with out that info. This team had too many fours so kyle played a 3. Maybe that's not his long term position.




Kawhi is a physical beast. When he started playing for us he didn't need to learn the offense. He was a garbage man. He's slowly added his overweight skill.

Kyle had played better defense than many have expected. What if the coaches told him to do that?

Undoubtedly he's been told to shoot better. But judging him just on outside shooting is dumb. His game is driving. The spurs haven't featured him so we haven't seen the true kyle.

My case is that if Kyle was placed into that situation, like you say- they prepped him for it.
Or do you think they prepped him for another way to play for the team and then placed him randomly doing what he was tasked to do?
Are you saying that Pop and company told him to train to play for the team one way and then placed him in every position to not play that way?

Is it his comfort zone? Probably not, but I believe it is what he was tasked to do and he did not live up to the task.

Kawhi lived up to every task placed before him.

I don't know man... Maybe you're right. I want this kid to find his niche on this team and blossom. I just don't know if he has the drive to make it happen at all costs like one other guy that happens to be on his team.

[tonight...you]

spurs scored 103+ ppg in the regular season. It's no coincidence that each game they scored less than 100, they lost. Problem is the scoring, not the defense not the rebounding, the scoring.

That's a simpleton's argument. You could equally say if they rebounded a bit better, got a few more stops, rather than score a few more buckets then they win.
The fact is they defended well and they were pretty efficient in scoring, but they got killed on the boards. Especially offensively by the Thunder.

And LOL you pulling out them RS stats. Weaksauce as black name. Represent better.

[tholdren]

That's a simpleton's argument. You could equally say if they rebounded a bit better, got a few more stops, rather than score a few more buckets then they win.
The fact is they defended well and they were pretty efficient in scoring, but they got killed on the boards. Especially offensively by the Thunder.

And LOL you pulling out them RS stats. Weaksauce as black name. Represent better.

wtf. it is a simple argument. pretty ignorant that you cannot realize what happened. keep on analyzing.

[tonight...you]

wtf. it is a simple argument. pretty ignorant that you cannot realize what happened. keep on analyzing.

Keep on talking nothing to nobody, black name.
You disgrace the other blacks with your nothing bull .

[tholdren]

Keep on talking nothing to nobody, black name.
You disgrace the other blacks with your nothing bull .

pwned

[tonight...you]

pwned

Uh huh. You tell yourself that and cuddle with your kitty cat in the dark.

[afireinside20]

David West is 6'9". Didn't help against OKC.

Yea but David West is.not as good as be used to be and he's old. This guy is younger and more explosive.

[dabom]

Uh huh. You tell yourself that and cuddle with your kitty cat in the dark.

[tonight...you]

This effing black named (must have been some honorary for tenure) fool talking about just offense when there are so many other things that could have shifted everything.
This cat willingly chooses to ignore that the team was getting destroyed on the boards and yet yells out "pwned" like a nervous Eric Cartman.

Sweet Jesus.

[dabom]

This effing black named (must have been some honorary for tenure) fool talking about just offense when there are so many other things that could have shifted everything.
This cat willingly chooses to ignore that the team was getting destroyed on the boards and yet yells out "pwned" like a nervous Eric Cartman.

Sweet Jesus.

I think he can't make threads and is bolded.

[Taking it to the Hole]

Is he taking Kevin Martin's spot? Don't know if the Spurs will try to resign Martin. Have no doubt he is going to want more money.

[tonight...you]

I think he can't make threads and is bolded.

Thank God for small favors.

[K...]

My case is that if Kyle was placed into that situation, like you say- they prepped him for it.
Or do you think they prepped him for another way to play for the team and then placed him randomly doing what he was tasked to do?
Are you saying that Pop and company told him to train to play for the team one way and then placed him in every position to not play that way?

Is it his comfort zone? Probably not, but I believe it is what he was tasked to do and he did not live up to the task.

Kawhi lived up to every task placed before him.

I don't know man... Maybe you're right. I want this kid to find his niche on this team and blossom. I just don't know if he has the drive to make it happen at all costs like one other guy that happens to be on his team.

Yes, exactly. With kawhi, we desperately needed an athletic sg. He was able to play his natural game because the 2013-2014 offense was rich. Flash forward to 2015, we have a sf, we have a bench ball handler. Kyle was expected to play passable defense and shoot outside shots. Mills and gino held the ball. It was no beautiful game.

This of all the that happened last year, new players, new offense, ask yourself how much coaching was really done with all that change.

Kawhi is an athletic freak. God given nba body. Kyle is not athletic but has a game which could be quite useful. His passing is his advantage. But he needs a stable role, teammates who drive and can shoot, and he needs the ball.. He didn't get any thing like that.



I'm not ting on kawhi to say he had the easier transition, but it's just common sense that with a defense first at ude and natural talent and a hole in the starting lineup, gave kawhi a advantage.

Where as Kyle is playing ty beta roles on a talent poor bench. No, he's never going to be as good as Kawhi on offense or defense. But he will be better than cojo and mills and nando

[tonight...you]

Yes, exactly. With kawhi, we desperately needed an athletic sg. He was able to play his natural game because the 2013-2014 offense was rich. Flash forward to 2015, we have a sf, we have a bench ball handler. Kyle was expected to play passable defense and shoot outside shots. Mills and gino held the ball. It was no beautiful game.

This of all the that happened last year, new players, new offense, ask yourself how much coaching was really done with all that change.

Kawhi is an athletic freak. God given nba body. Kyle is not athletic but has a game which could be quite useful. His passing is his advantage. But he needs a stable role, teammates who drive and can shoot, and he needs the ball.. He didn't get any thing like that.



I'm not ting on kawhi to say he had the easier transition, but it's just common sense that with a defense first at ude and natural talent and a hole in the starting lineup, gave kawhi a advantage.

Where as Kyle is playing ty beta roles on a talent poor bench. No, he's never going to be as good as Kawhi on offense or defense. But he will be better than cojo and mills and nando

No, no... we're coming to an accord. I honestly don't think Kawhi is an athletic freak, although he does have freakish measurements that he smartly uses to his advantage. Kawhi is no prime Amare, so to speak, athletically.
But the rest of your point, I get. Like I said- I want this kid to find his place and I think he does have some talent, not the least of which his ability to survey what's happening in front of him. I'm giving him this year to show himself as a real rotational player on a contender.

[SAGirl]

Huh? I don't understand your case?


Kyle is a ball dominant player. This year he played entirely off ball. He played in a manu dominant system. He played with turd towers.

Do you know if he's a 3or 4? Kind of hard to develop an offensive game with out that info. This team had too many fours so kyle played a 3. Maybe that's not his long term position.




Kawhi is a physical beast. When he started playing for us he didn't need to learn the offense. He was a garbage man. He's slowly added his overweight skill.

Kyle had played better defense than many have expected. What if the coaches told him to do that?

Undoubtedly he's been told to shoot better. But judging him just on outside shooting is dumb. His game is driving. The spurs haven't featured him so we haven't seen the true kyle.

ignore the trolling K. they are entirely too ignorant to entertain a rational analysis.

[SAGirl]

Is he taking Kevin Martin's spot? Don't know if the Spurs will try to resign Martin. Have no doubt he is going to want more money.

Kevin Martin is gone. He was awful and we don't have roster spots to spare on him IMO.

[tonight...you]

ignore the trolling K. they are entirely too ignorant to entertain a rational analysis.

Seriously? Did you read my post? I was not trolling. Huh...

[dabom]

Kawhi is a top 5 athlete in the NBA. Rated by many top analyst.

[SAGirl]

I have both of you on ignore ^^

[spurraider21]

Kawhi is a top 5 athlete in the NBA. Rated by many top analyst.

who are these top analysts, to name a few?

[dabom]

Seeing Kawhi close up is like seeing a beast. TV does a disservice to him.