How is it easier? Groups just make sure teams don't play each other. The whole South American qualifier is one giant group of death. Everybody plays each other and some teams don't make it over goal difference or a point or two, because there's not enough berths. Or a team has to travel to the other side of the world to play a game for all the marbles.
Meanwhile in Europe you have a group like Greece, Bosnia, Lichtenstein, Slovakia and Latvia that qualify directly. All of those teams have no business being in a World Cup...
Non-fluke World Cup winners (won more than once):
- Brazil 5x
- Germany 4x
- Italy 4x
- Argentina 2x
- Uruguay 2x
Considering Europe puts 3x the amount of teams that South America does, it has a historically terrible record.
Not getting the point in judging Belgium by a match in where they played one of South America's 2 teams to a stand still. One of the flukiest goals of the Tournament in the 8th minute
Belgium would finish 3rd and possibly even 2nd in South American qualifying
I can see how Belgium might look mighty in weak Europe, but they would stand no chance in the cutthroat South America qualifier...
So Spain and France's les were flukes but Uruguay's from 85 ing years ago when the Tournament had 13 teams will be considered.
It's simple logic. More games = Talent disparity is showcased. We just witnessed this in the NBA Finals. Imagine if the NBA Playoffs were 3 games instead of 7. You would see way more upsets.
Slovakia - Last Tournament made the Knockout Stage
Latvia - Has never qualified
Greece - Last Tournament made the Knockout Stage
Bosnia - did OK for their first tourney. Worst call in Tournament [Dzeko off-sides] from making Knockout
Liechtenstein - Has never qualified
Bad examples. If Slovakia, Greece and Bosnia don't deserve entry, then neither did Half the teams in the 2014 Tournament
Uruguay won two. You can fluke into a good month. Odds of doing it twice or more are much larger.
But that's what I'm saying. Europe keeps sending teams that fluked into the right group or lucked into winning a game. How is that better? That's a great reason why Europe should get less berths. They need to reform their qualifier to end up in a everybody plays everybody tournament with the top 12 teams. Make Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Italy, France and England a lock in, the rest qualify through the current system. Top 8 teams qualify.
Whoever makes it out of the SA qualifier you know are the best teams in the region. And some of the teams that don't make it are solely due to the limited berths.
That was a qualifying group for the last World Cup. I didn't made up the example, it's the kind of crappola coming out of Europe.
"Since there were no qualifying games"
Yaaaa we're gonna scratch 1930 World Cup off
So those teams fluked out in the European Qualifying Groups and then fluked out in the World Cup Groups?
Hey buddy, when is South America even gonna Win the ing thing againIt's been 13 years and we all know it ain't happening in Putinland. Europe with 3 different Champions during that time span
South America is still a respectable counterpart to Europe [2010 for example] and both Federations deserve a couple more teams in the Tournament but South American glory days are over bro. Europe was busy fighting Wars and shaping the Globe while South Americans bounced soccer balls on the beach. Brazilians finally putting Soccer into perspective, protesting against hosting the Tournament. Much of your continent should be broken up into smaller pieces like what occurred to Yugoslavia. People would prosper but results in the World Cup would worsen
It is what it is, I didn't make up the numbers, the numbers just reflect SA's historical superiority over Europe. Maybe someday that'll change.
The mass migration of talent from South America to Europe is a big cause of that. Players now play 3 times a week, then have to hop on a plane on a transatlantic flight and go play for their national team with no training or anything. Just get a bunch of guys and out on the pitch. That's another big advantage for Euro national teams... it's just weird how meager the returns have been when you see how much the deck is stacked for them, tbh... then again, there's a reason why the biggest stars in Europe are largely South American players...Hey buddy, when is South America even gonna Win the ing thing again
South America is still a respectable counterpart to Europe [2010 for example] and both Federations deserve a couple more teams in the Tournament but South American glory days are over bro. Europe was busy fighting Wars and shaping the Globe while South Americans bounced soccer balls on the beach. Brazilians finally putting Soccer into perspective, protesting against hosting the Tournament. Much of your continent should be broken up into smaller pieces like what occurred to Yugoslavia. People would prosper but results in the World Cup would worsen
why on earth would more upsets be a good thing? you want crappier teams to sneak into the world cup? The more games the better to weed out the flukes. And like ive said numerous times, the more wild card / playoff berths the better too.
and please show me these UEFA groups of death!
2014:
Belgium
Croatia
Serbia
Scotland
Wales
Macedonia
Italy
Denmark
Czech
Bulgaria
Armenia
Malta
Germany
Sweden
Austria
Ireland
Kazakstan
Faroe Islands
Netherlands
Romania
Hungary
Turkey
Estonia
Andorra
Switzeralnd
ICeland
Slovenia
Norway
Albania
Cyprus
Russia
Portugal
Israel
Azerbaijan
Ireland
Luxemburg
Bosnia
Greece
Slovakia
Lithuania
Latvia
Liechtenstein
England
Ukraine
Montenegro
Poland
Moldova
San Marino
Spain
France
Finland
Georgia
Belarus
which of these is the group of death? if anything, a bunch of cupcake groups distort the qualifiers more than a "group of death".
They need to change the qualifiers in Europe. Make a 10 team tournament where everybody plays everybody. Lock in Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, France and England for that tournament. Get 4 more teams out of regional qualifiers. Top 6 teams qualify.
The "we have too many teams" talk doesn't work. Africa has as many or more (and if they don't, they eventually will), and you don't want more than 2-3 African teams. They ruin the World Cup with inept play.
Honestly CONCACAF has too many spots just to get the U.S. and Mexico TV money.
Africa... Who are they going to advertise to besides the inept Warlord leaders?
Africa is too poor, this is FIFA folks. They may get some individual bribes from poor country hack politicians but the big money comes from the big consuming nations through TV.
That is all...
You can't have lock ins. Maybe borrow the UEFA seeding system. We will see more geopolitical changes in Europe over the next 25 years.
Imagine if Yugoslavia [Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Montenegro] were still together. They reached the Quarter-Finals in their final World Cup appearance
Imagine if England had players from Scotland, Ireland, Wales and Northern Ireland
Imagine if Czech Republic and Slovakia were together
Imagine if Russia had Poland, Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania players
Imagine if Sweden, Denmark, and Norway had 1 team
This is the major advantage South America has had up to this point and might still hold onto because Europe will continue changing/improving socially.
Oh Christ get off of it.
Poles want nothing more than to kill the Russan bas s.
England with Ireland? You want in team massacres?
Yuoslavia is long gone, get over it.
Not sure what point you're trying to make? All those are crappy teams, even England.
UEFA would love to have those lock ins. It would be a money machine. If it would be their way, those teams would qualify directly. The only reason it doesn't happen is FIFA, who wants the votes from Latvia and Lichtenstein (and Africa and Asia) to keep their side deals going.
he did it again
Post a gif of him mising the wc final free kick and Penalty agaunst chilehe did it again
Top 5 ever my ass..
Not better than R9
Am I missing something here? This midget got who can't even score a goal is supposed to be the GOAT of his "sport"?
damn, spot on... hopefully he gets axed tomorrow
argy fans back peddling, what fkn wankers
if he scored and won the cup, then u be beating to a different tune...now suck it up clowns...
messi embracing his inner Jim by missing an easy one in front of the net in crunch time.
Det bumphe did it again
Kobe's a better semblance to the midget tbh.
cant wait for those messi gifs like the ramos gif kicking the ball into space
Povertyball over yet?
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