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Yeah, printezis and a future second
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Yeah, printezis and a future second
2nd round picks? Sure
No. Don't let the RealGMers twist this.
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Rubio
Hmmmm Probably not. I hope Dejonte grows. He already doesn't have a shot but being 19 at least he's not hopeless.
For the same reason, I wasn't on the MCW train that K-Storm and Oz wanted for us.
If the Timberwolves are willing to give the Spurs 2 picks and rubio for diaw and mills i'll take it.
I know people hate Rubio, but I would definitely want him over Conley. He would make SA's defense much better and I don't think the offense would suffer one bit. For the cost, would definitely rather him over Conley's Max as well.
Not sure what I would want SA to pay for him, but in a bubble, I would prefer him over Conley although neither seem likely.
Yes this team needs more broken shots.
5 years in the league and still has a broken ass shot. Never shot over 40%FG in his entire career and shoots 31% from deep.
I think Diaw's non guaranteed contract and Mills might be too much for him. You can't play as a liability on offense like him in today's NBA. No wonder Minnesota wants to trade his ass even though he is still 25 y/o.
If it's a Diaw for Rubio swap then yeah. Diaw wasn't any better than Rubio last season..
Mills, Diaw + 2 picks for Rubio?
I love his game. I really do. However when looking at those percentages he shot around 38% last year. Remember how we burn Parker for missing jumpers? Well Tony shot at 49%.
Rubio salary is around 14 mil, same as Parker, and last an extra year. Diaw is around 7 mil, so you cannot do the swap. And wouldn't you rather try and get a guy on a 7mil contract along with Diaw than just Rubio?
However in another thread here, I mentioned I want Dieng, who would be our starting center, and can play the 4 with our slower centers, TD and Bobon. I proposed a salary dump situation where its Parker and Green for Rubio and Dieng. This would only be possible if we need space for Durant. Another option is Green for Dieng to create 7 mil in space.
Uh....no.
Couldn't agree more.
I like Rubio and I'd prefer him over maxed out Conley. He has graded 2nd in PGs in DRPM ( one of most accurate tools to quantify individual defense). He also gives the Spurs what they desperately need off the bench -- which is great play-making.
He'd be a great fit and could replace TP in starting line-up if Tony continues to regress. Another positive I like is he's only 25 years old with still room to grow.
Sign me up for a Diaw/Mills + Simmons or a 1st for Rubio.
Defense wasn't the problem last year. Offense was. Adding a PG who can't shoot from anywhere - on the drive, pullups, from deep - is not the answer. He's not only a sub-40% shooter overall, but has never crossed 40% from two. That's a PASS. Especially one who makes $15 million per year for three more years.
He barely scrapes 50% in the restricted area, and hits less than a quarter of his shots from 3-16 feet. Shoots best from the midrange (have enough of that already) and as others have noted is a low-30s guy from three.
Yes, he puts up nice assist numbers. He also turns the ball over a ton. 1.9 ast-TO ratio to Parker's 2.4.
I don't put a lot of stock into the dRPM as he was more or less backed up by one of the worst defensive PG in the league in Levine (113 dRTG in two years in the league).
Good call. The forum needs to just say "NO" to non-shooters like Rubio and MCW and move on permanently.
I would give up two pricks to turn Diaw and Mills into Rubio - especially if they were Apo and Dabom.
The past 3 years Rubio was 2nd/1st/2nd in the NBA in Defensive RPM which is the best tool the smartest NBA heads use to quantify individual defense ( it's not the same as DBRPM) and he's matched up vs. starters the past 3 years. His consistency at the top the past 3 years should give any person with half a brain some clarify on his defense. Tony ranked 33rd in DRPM last yr vs. starters and 76th (lol) the previous year. Mills ranked 25th in DRPM last year matching up vs. back ups (which is terrible too).
Also, Spurs desperately need another play-maker on the wing -- Rubio is a better creator than Mills by a long shot. While he's not the best shooter, I don't think its far-fetched to believe it can improve under Chip.
Another thing he has going for him is his age, being only 25-- Rubio still has room for growth.
Considering the alternatives in FA, give me some Rubio. Spurs have to find a way to improve their PG spot. I'm tired of the Spurs having 48 minutes of liabilities on the defensive end at the point guard position.
Definitely. Rubio is 25 (Kawhi's age), athletic, great defensive PG and solid offensive PG (because he lacks shooting). Everything else he does on an elite level. This free agent PG class is weak so people need to be realistic. Also, people want the Spurs to develop talent (I think Dejounte will be great but he needs 2 years minimum to have any impact on the game) but that takes time and what they have on PG position isn't enough for GSW, OKC and CLE right now. Rubio can at least defend elite PG's and run a decent offense. His team doesn't want him and doesn't understand his strengths.
Diaw is fat and doesn't care.
Mills is a 5'10 shooting guard.
So, do it RC.
Mills and Diaw for Rubio maybe but not with any picks attached. He is an excellent player maker and defender but struggles to finish at the rim and from 3 but is about average as a mid range shooter. during the 13-14 season he hit 40% of his mid range jumpers which accounted for 45% of his shots.
the bigger question would be fit, and whether he would start or come off the bench.
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