Lakers: Hassan Whiteside to Lakers?

[Killakobe81]

pass on barnes because he's so redundant at least for me, since we're gambling on which role player would suck less, i'd say go all in on whiteside and pray he sees the light lmao.

Depends on your goals.
Whiteside is the guy we should should gamble on because he fits a position of need , I agree ...

But Ingram is not ready to be a starter on a team that wants to win more than 25 games. IF you are OK with that then yes, Barnes is redundant. But to your point maybe a vet like Deng, Ariza or Afflalo is a better pairing with Ingram and they should cost less.

My issue is the two guys everyone is focusing on for us are Parsons and Whiteside and both have had recent knee issues.

[Jim Buss]

I'm going to make this deal to show you mother ers Im smart!

[140]

I'm going to make this deal to show you mother ers Im smart!

[StrengthAndHonor]

Whiteside is a much better player than that shemale you guys have at center.

Please. Buss would give his left nut to get somebody of Deandre Jordan's caliber.

[StrengthAndHonor]

I'm not a big fan of Whiteside but what the choice do we have? That's if he even considers us. Derozan doesn't even wanna come here lol. Either Whiteside or scrape the bottom of the barrel on some short term deals, can't just hold on to the money. I can't take another lottery season man.

Yes, like I said before. The Lakers aren't on top of FA destinations, so you guys are usually left with scraps. Whiteside may not give the Lakers the best return of investment but among the few who may consider, he's obviously the most talented.

[140]

My issue is the two guys everyone is focusing on for us are Parsons and Whiteside and both have had recent knee issues.

[StrengthAndHonor]

I am going on the record now saying that paying this dude the max is crazy.

The cap projection will have a substantial rise next year. You have guys like Barnes who will command $20 million per, this year. To put it on context, Deandre's contract is looking like a bargain with the current cap raise.

[DMC]

Barnes is a middle of the road talent guy. He's got a million dollar release/10c result jumpshot. He can get hot but so can about half the shooters in the NBA if not 75%.

[Killakobe81]

The cap projection will have a substantial rise next year. You have guys like Barnes who will command $20 million per, this year. To put it on context, Deandre's contract is looking like a bargain with the current cap raise.

Dont think he should get it either but just think we can get him cheaper than Whiteside.
It's not my money ... but the reason I care is bad signings is a product of bad leadership and or desperation.
I dont want the lakers to be either and if we only win 25 games ..so be it .. if it means the alternative is overpaying guys to win 40 games at best ...and still miss the playoffs.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Dont think he should get it either but just think we can get him cheaper than Whiteside.
It's not my money ... but the reason I care is bad signings is a product of bad leadership and or desperation.
I dont want the lakers to be either and if we only win 25 games ..so be it .. if it means the alternative is overpaying guys to win 40 games at best ...and still miss the playoffs.

There's going to be plenty of buyers remorse going forward. We're entering unprecedented cap raise with little talent available. If this was back in early to mid 2000, I can see your point but everyone will eventually overpay a player or two in their rosters. It's a players market afterall and the owners are going to keep losing this battle until the next lockout happens.

[Killakobe81]

There's going to be plenty of buyers remorse going forward. We're entering unprecedented cap raise with little talent available. If this was back in early to mid 2000, I can see your point but everyone will eventually overpay a player or two in their rosters. It's a players market afterall and the owners are going to keep losing this battle until the next lockout happens.

The owners are dumb.
they took a short-term win in the last CBA to take the L's now ...
I still would rather punt our cap space forward getting mediocre players on short term deals kinda like the Mavs before Wes Matthews was signed.

[StrengthAndHonor]

The owners are dumb.
they took a short-term win in the last CBA to take the L's now ...
I still would rather punt our cap space forward getting mediocre players on short term deals kinda like the Mavs before Wes Matthews was signed.

I wouldn't call the owners dumb, have you seen the value of each franchise in the league?


And I'm not sure if using the Mavs model for success is the right way to do it, especially if their prized possession was just Wes Matthews.

[Killakobe81]

I wouldn't call the owners dumb, have you seen the value of each franchise in the league?


And I'm not sure if using the Mavs model for success is the right way to do it, especially if their prized possession was just Wes Matthews.

No you are missing the point on the Mavs I will come back to that in a second.
Owners are great business men just ty at running NBa franchises (for the most part).
They put in all these protections and provisions but none of it stops them overspending ... From Koncak to Whiteside, Owners have been overpaying big men since I started watching the NBA.

As far as Matthews and the Mavs go, when you get desperate to make a splash like they did with Deandre, Parsons and Matthews ...you make bad deals. All in the name of chasing mediocrity. I dont want them to follow the Mavs last signing of MAtthews I want them to use the logic of saving cap space.

[StrengthAndHonor]

No you are missing the point on the Mavs I will come back to that in a second.
Owners are great business men just ty at running NBa franchises (for the most part).
They put in all these protections and provisions but none of it stops them overspending ... From Koncak to Whiteside, Owners have been overpaying big men since I started watching the NBA.

As far as Matthews and the Mavs go, when you get desperate to make a splash like they did with Deandre, Parsons and Matthews ...you make bad deals. All in the name of chasing mediocrity,

Im curious though, who are these mediocre players on short term deals?

[HarlemHeat37]

Yes, like I said before. The Lakers aren't on top of FA destinations, so you guys are usually left with scraps. Whiteside may not give the Lakers the best return of investment but among the few who may consider, he's obviously the most talented.

my man has jokes, tbh..

[StrengthAndHonor]

my man has jokes, tbh..

huh?

[140]

my man has jokes, tbh..

good catch tbh

[Clipper Nation]

my man has jokes, tbh..

[StrengthAndHonor]

Really, Mid? You of all people

[Killakobe81]

Im curious though, who are these mediocre players on short term deals?

IDK but it wont be the guys people are camping out for day one.

I mean more like the Ed Davis, Brandon Bass type dudes.
Heck, IT from the Celts was signed on the relative cheap (now) while Lakers were waiting on Melo. and he WANTED to come to L.A. ...but we chasing the Melos, and LMA's ...smh.
I think IT is overrated, btw, but THOSE are the type of deals the Lakers should be pursuing ...

[Splits]

[RsxPiimp]

IDK but it wont be the guys people are camping out for day one.

I mean more like the Ed Davis, Brandon Bass type dudes.
Heck, IT from the Celts was signed on the relative cheap (now) while Lakers were waiting on Melo. and he WANTED to come to L.A. ...but we chasing the Melos, and LMA's ...smh.
I think IT is overrated, btw, but THOSE are the type of deals the Lakers should be pursuing ...

i'd be all for that too tbh assuming it's the right pieces. thing is buss has no idea how to build a team so I don't trust his judgement. i was pissed when we let ed davis go only to absorb hibberts contract. was upset when j. lin was let go only to go after lou Williams, see where im going here? and didn't we had bazemore at one point but the front office let him go for nick young.


i have zero trust in jim right now, that's the problem and if we don't lock talents, buss will hand out those contracts to players that are even worse fit.


I still think the lakers should go after horford first, batum and/or deng second for veteran presence and leadership. I touched up on this previously but I remain concern that bringing whiteside with NO veteran leadership is going to bite them in the butt.

[Chucho]

If he wants to actually succeed, he doesn't sign with this pile of a franchise. They are dead and forgotten. Kobe was the undertaker, paul bearer and necropheliac on this corpse once referred to as the Lakers.


LOL NO stars
LOL NO future
LOL NO one wants to play there
LOL NO chance

[StrengthAndHonor]

IDK but it wont be the guys people are camping out for day one.

I mean more like the Ed Davis, Brandon Bass type dudes.
Heck, IT from the Celts was signed on the relative cheap (now) while Lakers were waiting on Melo. and he WANTED to come to L.A. ...but we chasing the Melos, and LMA's ...smh.
I think IT is overrated, btw, but THOSE are the type of deals the Lakers should be pursuing ...

Those are actually solid players, it's just a matter of finding the right pieces to build alongside the Lakers future. What are your thoughts on getting Gasol back?


I wouldn't mind him on the Clippers.

[Ball Buster]

Gasol is going to either the Spurs, or the Golden State Warriors