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    What I want to know now is why didn't Manu do the same thing, given most indications that he would follow suit with whatever TD would do?

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    If Duncan retires (and gets paid), does that 6 million still count against the cap?

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    Why would he be meeting with Durant on Friday if he's retiring?
    Is that for sure, or just a rumor?
    Maybe he, for sure, wants in for just one more year and locked the team into it.

    I don't claim to know anything, myself. This is one deal that can go any way when it comes to conjecture and postulating.

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    If Duncan retires (and gets paid), does that 6 million still count against the cap?
    Yessir. This will not be free money.

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    Obviously this means one thing and one thing only: Timmy is playing another year


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    And yet you about every player that even sniffs joining the team.
    You're so bull and I love you for it, big dog.
    Muh .

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    Think McDyess. Yes, the team can still pay him.
    I know the team can still pay him (now), but do you think that is likely that SA would pay him for not working? What if they need that cap space?

    I forgot what happened with McDyess.

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    Not too thrilled about Tim coming back since he looked washed up during the playoffs but the positive of this is that he won't be going into the hall of fame at the same time as Kobe.

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    I'm still not entirely sure what impact this has on our cap situation. What was his cap hold(if there was one) before he opted in?

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    I'm pretty sure Tim is gone. He knows he's done and I doubt he'll pull a Kobe and drag the Spurs down with him.

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    Why are their numbers so different from what we have? Is the 6.3M because of the Over 36 rule? In our cap scenarios Tim opting out gave the Spurs cap space, didn't restrict with 9M cap hold (unless we were assuming they renounce Tim and he takes the min).

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    Move into an elder statesman role. Doesn't seem too weird.
    Ya - teams bring in retired stars all the time to recruit. Hakeem, Magic, etc...it's definitely a normal part of recruiting process for most teams.

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    I know the team can still pay him (now), but do you think that is likely that SA would pay him for not working? What if they need that cap space?

    I forgot what happened with McDyess.
    I mentioned before that this was the likeliest result of a one-plus-one deal. My guess is that the team planned for this. Of he retires, he'll be stretched if they need space. But it was always very likely that Tim and Manu were going to be paid to go retire.

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    Well this officially confirms Duncan will be on the plan to see KD...

    Just the tip of the ice burg

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    Why are their numbers so different from what we have? Is the 6.3M because of the Over 36 rule? In our cap scenarios Tim opting out gave the Spurs cap space, didn't restrict with 9M cap hold (unless we were assuming they renounce Tim and he takes the min).
    Sounds like we are all in a giant cluster eff over here...
    I certainly hope RC and the FO aren't running around like headless chickens like we are.

    I'm willing to bet conversations were made. Decisions happened and plans are in effect, as well as they can be made effective.

    ... maybe I'm wrong and RC is half-naked, drunk in his front yard screaming at his wife to turn on the sprinklers full blast.
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    Why are their numbers so different from what we have? Is the 6.3M because of the Over 36 rule? In our cap scenarios Tim opting out gave the Spurs cap space, didn't restrict with 9M cap hold (unless we were assuming they renounce Tim and he takes the min).
    They would have had to renounce both manu and tim to get those figures correct. those cap holds weren';t going anywhere

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    If Duncan retires (and gets paid), does that 6 million still count against the cap?
    Yes.

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    Sounds like we are all in a giant cluster eff over here...
    I certainly hope RC and the FO aren't running around like headless chickens like we are.

    I'm willing to bet conversations were made. Decisions happened and plans are in effect, as well as they can be made effective.

    ... maybe I'm wrong and RC is half-naked, drunk in his front yard screaming at his wife to turn on the sprinklers full blast.
    IT'S HOT AS OVER HERE WOMAN!!!
    It's quite possible.. RC tried calling Pop but he's already in bed and doesn't answer the phone after 9.

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    Sounds like we are all in a giant cluster eff over here...
    I certainly hope RC and the FO aren't running around like headless chickens like we are.

    I'm willing to bet conversations were made. Decisions happened and plans are in effect, as well as they can be made effective.

    ... maybe I'm wrong and RC is half-naked, drunk in his front yard screaming at his wife to turn on the sprinklers full blast.
    IT'S HOT AS OVER HERE WOMAN!!!
    Lol wtf

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    I checked Larry's CBA FAQ and it definitely appears you get your money if you retire. I can see Tim wanting his money if he retires and perhaps he's really just unsure. If he was going to play, I guess he opts out. But if he's truly unsure and a deadline was forced the only way for him to get his money would be to opt in.

    It means the team has less chance to improve if he comes back, but I guess that is worth the risk if he's really weighing his options.
    How does him retiring make sense with the Durant meeting?
    I think Timmy is coming back.

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    Timmy might just be pitching KD for next season.

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    I mentioned before that this was the likeliest result of a one-plus-one deal. My guess is that the team planned for this. Of he retires, he'll be stretched if they need space. But it was always very likely that Tim and Manu were going to be paid to go retire.
    I don't remember seeing your post on it being likely. I didn't think it was likely at all unless the logic was no way Tim was willing to chance playing for the minimum. That is the only scenario I can think of that made sense to exercise the option is if Tim was not willing to play for the min under any cir stance.

    However, now learning that he can be stretched (did not know that, although I should have - retiring doesn't change that rule) it makes more sense as it's a small hit to the cap moving forward.

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    How does him retiring make sense with the Durant meeting?
    I think Timmy is coming back.
    People are just completely ignoring that Duncan is supposed to be part of KD meeting...unless it's not true. Just haven't heard anybody dispute it. Him opting in kind of supports him being at the meeting

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    I mentioned before that this was the likeliest result of a one-plus-one deal. My guess is that the team planned for this. Of he retires, he'll be stretched if they need space. But it was always very likely that Tim and Manu were going to be paid to go retire.
    Then why would Manu opt out? What if Tim does not retire, does the decision then not make any sense to you?

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