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    We can have about 22m if we salary dump Diaw and Mills. Maybe we can give Wade 16m and Gasol 6m? Bring back West and Manu with room mid level and minimum and our lineup looks like this:

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    We won't have the MLE if we use cap room to sign Wade/Gasol in your hypothetical.

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    We won't have the MLE if we use cap room to sign Wade/Gasol in your hypothetical.
    SA will have the Room Mid-Level which is different and what he was referencing.

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    If it's for the minimum, why not?

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    SA will have the Room Mid-Level which is different and what he was referencing.
    My bad. For some reason I had it in my mind that "mid-level" terminology was strictly in regards to the MLE. By simply googling the variations I learned that there are multiple types of room exceptions. Thanks for the clarification.

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    Wade has long been my favorite non-Spur (probably ever). As unlikely as it is, that would be dope to have him on SA.
    He's not old enough yet. Almost but not quite. He'll join the Moses Malone; Dominique Wilkins; Antonio McDyess; Andre Miller; Mario Elie; Vernon Maxwell; Ron Mercer; Will Perdue; Glen Robinson; Chuck Person; Nick VanExel; Charlie Ward; Kevin Willis and whoever else I forgot. Those are just the players that I got to see in a Spurs uniform that joined the team after they were too old or past their prime and I wish we had gotten them sooner.

    A couple of those guys still had something in them. Like McDyess, Person, Willis and even Perdue.

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    Wade would be a perfect manu replacement tbh. He would be worth spending money on. Guy legitimately carried the heat quite often last year. Heat, as pointed out, are in a bad position. They have a Max pg who isn't a Max player, might lose their best player this summer, bosh might not play again or ever at that high level.. they ar not trending up. They look more likely to rebuild than reload. Wade would be interested in going somewhere eye could have a large role, which both spurs and mavs could accommodate while contending.Guy handed over his franchise to LeBron for rings, he likes to win.

    That being said, it isn't likely to happen but makes sense if the low probability came through. A Gasol/wade pickup would make the spurs much better than last year. They basically had no second unit, wade would do that. He would also play pg in crunch time ala vintage manu, which would be a very good rebounding and defensive final unit with Kawhi, lma. Likely? No. Possible ? Yes. That's what she's free agency fun.
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    How much is this guy looking for anyway?

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    My bad. For some reason I had it in my mind that "mid-level" terminology was strictly in regards to the MLE. By simply googling the variations I learned that there are multiple types of room exceptions. Thanks for the clarification.
    No worries! I was telling Chinook that I love free agency/draft because during the season it's easy to forget (especially with CBA changes last round) and this time generates great conversations and allows us all to learn/refresh.

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    Wade would be a perfect manu replacement tbh. He would be worth spending money on. Guy legitimately carried the heat quite often last year. Heat, as pointed out, are in a bad position. They have a Max pg who isn't a Max player, might lose their best player this summer, bosh might not play again or ever at that high level.. they ar not trending up. They look more likely to rebuild than reload. Wade would be interested in going somewhere eye could have a large role, which both spurs and mavs could accommodate while contending.Guy handed over his franchise to LeBron for rings, he likes to win.

    That being said, it isn't likely to happen but makes sense if the low probability came through. A Gasol/wade pickup would make the spurs much better than last year. They basically had no second unit, wade would do that. He would also play pg in crunch time ala vintage manu, which would be a very good rebounding and defensive final unit with Kawhi, lma. Likely? No. Possible ? Yes. That's what she's free agency fun.
    It would be ridiculous to add Wade to the team.
    There's no way it happens. Count me in the camp that thinks he's manipulating as best he can to Riley.

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    No worries! I was telling Chinook that I love free agency/draft because during the season it's easy to forget (especially with CBA changes last round) and this time generates great conversations and allows us all to learn/refresh.
    You're ST's anchor at staying on point when it comes to Bball discussion. No doubt. And here I am talking about MST3K for half the day with posters...

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    It's all good

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    Huh... does that mean anything as far as Durant and any major free agent acquisitions they could/now could not make?

    Honestly, I think they will be most dangerous keeping the crew together, rather than doing landscaping.

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    Huh... does that mean anything as far as Durant and any major free agent acquisitions they could/now could not make?

    Honestly, I think they will be most dangerous keeping the crew together, rather than doing landscaping.
    Means nothing. They aren't going to risk losing those guys for nothing if KD says no. They make them RFAs and then sign them if KD says no.

    If KD says yes, then they recind the qualifying offers and free up the cap space they are taking up.

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    Means nothing. They aren't going to risk losing those guys for nothing if KD says no. They make them RFAs and then sign them if KD says no.

    If KD says yes, then they recind the qualifying offers and free up the cap space they are taking up.
    That's what I thought. Nothing means anything til Durant and others start moving.

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    That's what I thought. Nothing means anything til Durant and others start moving.
    Yup. There is some danger to GS if Barnes/Festus sign offer sheets really early. Team would have 3 days to decide and if KD has not made a decision they will have a choice to make.

    But the players seem to want to stay with GS so they will probably wait a little while and most teams won't do much until KD (and the other main FA's like Conley/Whiteside) make their decisions. A lot of offers to players are contingent on KD telling them no I would imagine.

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    Miami is in a horrible situation..they looked like a promising team for the future, especially since Riley has been eying 2017 since Lebron left, but everything has went downhill for them:

    1. Bosh's medical concerns
    2. Whiteside unexpectedly blowing up before they could do anything to lock him up(realistically)
    3. Last off-season, dealing with the old "loyalty to a superstar" issue that often arises..do you cut ties with the player and alienate your fanbase or think logically about basketball?
    4. Wade having a very solid season after looking completely finished the previous year, giving him some leverage in an off-season where they have to deal with Whiteside and want Durant
    Solid season comparative to who, Evan Turner? He was worse than Tony Parker and people here have the audacity to complain about Tony's play. Must be one of those intangible things that doesn't show up in the box score I guess. Dat double standard! When Wade gets paid and he will, Parker's contract will look like a bargain.
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    ^ why do you say that? Wade defense is now gone, mainly due to effort, but he avg 19/4/4 at 45% shooting, but provided next to nothing from three. In the post season it jumped up a little 21/5.6/4. Shot a little better, and 50% from three on 1.6 attempts.

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    Solid season comparative to who, Evan Turner? He was worse than Tony Parker and people here have the audacity to complain about Tony's play. Must be one of those intangible things that doesn't show up in the box score I guess. Dat double standard! When Wade gets paid and he will, Parker's contract will look like a bargain.
    I would love to hear the argument for Parker being better than Wade last season

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    Stefan Bondy Verified account ‏@SBondyNYDN A name to think about for the Knicks in free agency: Kevin Martin. They made a run at him at trade deadline.

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    worse efficiency than melo - i like it

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    I would love to hear the argument for Parker being better than Wade last season
    He was a better 3 point shooter?

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    Yeah such great teams Duncan had in his prime, not. Spurs ain't going anywhere anytime soon. Duncan's back finally gave out. It's not a coincedence that the Spurs were suffering early playoff exits from 2009-2011 when Duncan's game dropped massively, and then the Spurs had a rebirth once he got in shape and produced at an all star level again from 2012-2015. He's completely shot now and so are the Spurs.

    A past his prime alcoholic coach and GM isn't giving me any hope. I don't know about you.

    This roster is basically the old Brooklyn Nets with Kawhi and Aldridge lmao.
    Um, the 2012-15 resurgence also coincides with a complete change in style of play (to the beautiful game - we were doing it before anyone else), the emergence of Kawhi, not to mention cobbling together an excellent supporting cast by bringing in guys like Diaw, Mills, CoJo, Baynes, etc. The 2009-2011 teams sucked primarily because we were unable to bring in any FAs or draft picks that helped.

    Is Pop over the hill? Maybe, maybe not. But his and RC's team-building a en has 20 successful years behind it and I'm willing to trust in that. I don't like that we've zagged to slow-ball when everyone else is going fast, but it was done to fit the personnel.

    We are long past the time I thought we'd be rebuilding - back in 2010 I thought Duncan, Manu and Pop would ride off into the sunset together after 2012, but then Kawhi exploded and changed everything - and there's no doubt we need an injection of youth and athleticism, but even with all of that we still almost beat a peaking OKC team last year.

    I'll trust in the management that has made this the franchise of the era, and a model for sports clubs across the globe.

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    Um, the 2012-15 resurgence also coincides with a complete change in style of play (to the beautiful game - we were doing it before anyone else), the emergence of Kawhi, not to mention cobbling together an excellent supporting cast by bringing in guys like Diaw, Mills, CoJo, Baynes, etc. The 2009-2011 teams sucked primarily because we were unable to bring in any FAs or draft picks that helped.

    Is Pop over the hill? Maybe, maybe not. But his and RC's team-building a en has 20 successful years behind it and I'm willing to trust in that. I don't like that we've zagged to slow-ball when everyone else is going fast, but it was done to fit the personnel.

    We are long past the time I thought we'd be rebuilding - back in 2010 I thought Duncan, Manu and Pop would ride off into the sunset together after 2012, but then Kawhi exploded and changed everything - and there's no doubt we need an injection of youth and athleticism, but even with all of that we still almost beat a peaking OKC team last year.

    I'll trust in the management that has made this the franchise of the era, and a model for sports clubs across the globe.
    I like your optimism.

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