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    Look at the FAs list and remove the players that deserve to get paid. This leaves a of a lot of teams who'd have struck out in free agency with a lot of money available if only to approach the salary floor. Ridiculous money will be paid to players who don't half deserve it. It's a great time to be a FA. Watch the likes of Deng and Marvin Williams get deals approaching 20 mil per...
    From Business Insider (circa 2013-2014)

    The 'punishment' for missing the minimum salary threshold is merely that you get charged up to the amount of it anyway. That's it. The excess is divided up amongst the players on the roster at a percentage determined by the NBA Player's Association, and that's all that happens. That's not a punishment at all. That's not even really a penalty. And thus, going over it for the sake of going over it would be meaningless.

    They were talking about sixers in 2013-2014 ...

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    From Business Insider (circa 2013-2014)

    The 'punishment' for missing the minimum salary threshold is merely that you get charged up to the amount of it anyway. That's it. The excess is divided up amongst the players on the roster at a percentage determined by the NBA Player's Association, and that's all that happens. That's not a punishment at all. That's not even really a penalty. And thus, going over it for the sake of going over it would be meaningless.

    They were talking about sixers in 2013-2014 ...
    This is true, of course, but teams have rarely stayed under the floor just for the sake of not overpaying and I don't expect them to do it now, although there might be a lot of teams entering the season below the floor and looking for trades. I imagine staying under the floor on purpose would also alienate agents and other owners.

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    Why are people acting surprised? Are you guys not aware the cap has raised and talent pool is dry?

    Noah at $18 million is going to be the norm now.

    Kent Bazemore who a couple of years ago was playing for NBDL is now commanding $16 mil per

    Nic Batum $18-$20 mil per

    Horford starting at $24 mil per

    Parsons at $20 mil per

    and Dwight at $28 mil per

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    Why are people acting surprised? Are you guys not aware the cap has raised and talent pool is dry?

    Noah at $18 million is going to be the norm now.

    Kent Bazemore who a couple of years ago was playing for NBDL is now commanding $16 mil per

    Nic Batum $18-$20 mil per

    Horford starting at $24 mil per

    Parsons at $20 mil per

    and Dwight at $28 mil per
    Not surprised, disgusted.
    Why have a lockout if the end is still overpriced players?
    I hope every player squeezes these freaking owners ...
    You cap James but let these clowns make lebron level salary?!
    James should get 300 million then
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    this is the same fkn team that gave jerome james a max mle deal...lmao

    the same team who gave allan houston a 100m contract when he was inferior to spree or ewing at the time

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    Not surprised, disgusted.
    Why have a lockoutvif end is still overpriced players?
    I hope every player squeezes these freaking owners ...
    You cap James but let these clowns make lebron level salary?!
    James should get 300 million then
    Its an agreement between the league, it's owners, the players and its union. The payrolls are the result of a lucrative television deal and the owners, unwillingly are mandated to share this revenue (BRI). You can be sure though the split is not going to be as favorable when the league heads towards another lockout when the true stars of the game pushes for the end of max contracts.

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    Why are people acting surprised? Are you guys not aware the cap has raised and talent pool is dry?

    Noah at $18 million is going to be the norm now.

    Kent Bazemore who a couple of years ago was playing for NBDL is now commanding $16 mil per

    Nic Batum $18-$20 mil per

    Horford starting at $24 mil per

    Parsons at $20 mil per

    and Dwight at $28 mil per
    Lakerfan pre-semen shielding for what's about to be their calamitous free agency

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    Lakerfan pre-semen shielding for what's about to be their calamitous free agency
    Honor is not a Lakerfan ...

    And what does players being overpriced have to do with the Lakers woes? Lakers would be glad to overpay. The fact the FA class sucks does not change the fact that the Lakers want to sign players and may still fail. Even if they do sign Whiteside, DD or any of the top 10 it doesnt mean they did not overpay.

    Point being you can laugh at the Lakers either way. If they sign Whiteside to a big deal you can ridicule us paying a dleague caliber player franchise money.If we swing and miss it's how the mighty have fallen ...

    how convenient for you btw ...

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    Honor is not a Lakerfan ...

    And what does players being overpriced have to do with the Lakers woes? Lakers would be glad to overpay. The fact the FA class sucks does not change the fact that the Lakers want to sign players and may still fail. Even if they do sign Whiteside, DD or any of the top 10 it doesnt mean they did not overpay.

    Point being you can laugh at the Lakers either way. If they sign Whiteside to a big deal you can ridicule us paying a dleague caliber player franchise money.If we swing and miss it's how the mighty have fallen ...

    how convenient for you btw ...
    He's a troll, don't mind him.

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    Its an agreement between the league, it's owners, the players and its union. The payrolls are the result of a lucrative television deal and the owners, unwillingly are mandated to share this revenue (BRI). You can be sure though the split is not going to be as favorable when the league heads towards another lockout when the true stars of the game pushes for the end of max contracts.
    The crazy thing is the owners cant help themselves. A no max for the biggest stars would be fair for people like James. But with no max before long players like ...Paul George (poor man's Lebron) are making the same. My only issue is non stars getting star money. Lebron, Kiwi, Durant, Steph can make as much as owners are willing to pay.

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    Honor is not a Lakerfan ...
    good one

    And what does players being overpriced have to do with the Lakers woes? Lakers would be glad to overpay. The fact the FA class sucks does not change the fact that the Lakers want to sign players and may still fail. Even if they do sign Whiteside, DD or any of the top 10 it doesnt mean they did not overpay.

    Point being you can laugh at the Lakers either way. If they sign Whiteside to a big deal you can ridicule us paying a dleague caliber player franchise money.If we swing and miss it's how the mighty have fallen ...

    how convenient for you btw ...
    Yup. That's what happens when your franchise player cares only about his own bankroll and image and leaves your team in shambles.

    Kobe = W
    Duncan = Obama

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    good one



    Yup. That's what happens when your franchise player cares only about his own bankroll and image and leaves your team in shambles.

    Kobe = W
    Duncan = Obama
    Ok now that was funny ...
    You still an asshole though ...

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    Today's NBA

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    Why have a lockout if the end is still overpriced players?
    Because that lockout netted the owners a much larger percentage of basketball revenues than they had before. They made out like bandits. The players' share of revenues dropped from 57% to something like 49-51%.

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    Its an agreement between the league, it's owners, the players and its union. The payrolls are the result of a lucrative television deal and the owners, unwillingly are mandated to share this revenue (BRI). You can be sure though the split is not going to be as favorable when the league heads towards another lockout when the true stars of the game pushes for the end of max contracts.
    How many true stars are there? Players would be voting against their self interests if they fought to abolish the maximum salary. The maximum salary sucks for franchise players, but it greatly increases the money available to pay players ranging from rotation player to lower level allstar, which is most of the league. It means anyone good enough to get on the floor in the NBA is going to make really serious money. Why would the rank and file NBA players vote to abolish that gravy train?

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    Because that lockout netted the owners a much larger percentage of basketball revenues than they had before. They made out like bandits. The players' share of revenues dropped from 57% to something like 49-51%.
    Ok that makes sense business wise of course ...
    Paying Noah what was reported does not ...

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    Ok that makes sense business wise of course ...
    Paying Noah what was reported does not ...
    Also the players pay a percentage of each check into an escrow fund. If the players' share of revenue ever goes above the 51% or so of basketball related income, whatever share of that escrow fund brings it down to 51% gets divided among the owners, with the rest going back to the players.

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    And the players union was corrupt too at the time.


    They tried to cap smooth, but the players union refused to negotiate any solution other than what we see now,, big contracts and guys like kawhi getting a poor max. I would have preferred the whole league just bump up all contracts to prevent unjust enrichment. But I see the player's side's point in demanding all due $$ to To paid. They don't trust ownership to be fair.

    The lockout is going to be fought over redefining the definitions of earnings to increase the size of the whole profits pie and prevent ownership from exemptions on side businesses related to the nba like stadium deals and such

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    And the players union was corrupt too at the time.


    They tried to cap smooth, but the players union refused to negotiate any solution other than what we see now,, big contracts and guys like kawhi getting a poor max. I would have preferred the whole league just bump up all contracts to prevent unjust enrichment. But I see the player's side's point in demanding all due $$ to To paid. They don't trust ownership to be fair.

    The lockout is going to be fought over redefining the definitions of earnings to increase the size of the whole profits pie and prevent ownership from exemptions on side businesses related to the nba like stadium deals and such
    One thing is kiwi gave you guys a great deal ...
    Even if he hadnt taken a additional leap lessor players are gonna make what he makes ...Spurs win.

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    One thing is kiwi gave you guys a great deal ...
    Even if he hadnt taken a additional leap lessor players are gonna make what he makes ...Spurs win.
    Kawhi got the maximum he could get I think. Yeah it's an enormous bargain but he didn't take any kind of paycut (nor should he have).

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    Kawhi got the maximum he could get I think. Yeah it's an enormous bargain but he didn't take any kind of paycut (nor should he have).
    He could have went the one year route. He chose to sign for the max longterm. On a year deal especially making all nba 1st team doesnt he qualify for much bigger max ...like Rose got his mvp year?

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    How many true stars are there? Players would be voting against their self interests if they fought to abolish the maximum salary. The maximum salary sucks for franchise players, but it greatly increases the money available to pay players ranging from rotation player to lower level allstar, which is most of the league. It means anyone good enough to get on the floor in the NBA is going to make really serious money. Why would the rank and file NBA players vote to abolish that gravy train?
    At some point, it has to come down, this current model is not working out and the fans are getting the short end of the stick here, paying a ridiculous amount of money to see garbage products on the floor. The next CBA will be interesting for sure and the issue of max contracts is likely to be a huge sticking point. Lebron and Chris Paul pushed for it and I support the idea of the true stars of the game getting the monetary value they deserve.

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    At some point, it has to come down, this current model is not working out and the fans are getting the short end of the stick here, paying a ridiculous amount of money to see garbage products on the floor. The next CBA will be interesting for sure and the issue of max contracts is likely to be a huge sticking point. Lebron and Chris Paul pushed for it and I support the idea of the true stars of the game getting the monetary value they deserve.
    How the does playing players less increase the quality?

    Who are these great athletes who said " I can't play nba because they pay too much"?

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    At some point, it has to come down, this current model is not working out and the fans are getting the short end of the stick here, paying a ridiculous amount of money to see garbage products on the floor. The next CBA will be interesting for sure and the issue of max contracts is likely to be a huge sticking point. Lebron and Chris Paul pushed for it and I support the idea of the true stars of the game getting the monetary value they deserve.
    That is all I am saying.
    in another article, cubes said he is open to that if Players would accept non garunsheed deals ...but I doubt the players will give that up. but I agree the current model is flawed.

    Any deal that has guys like barnes/Parsons as max or near max is very flawed.

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    That is all I am saying.
    in another article, cubes said he is open to that if Players would accept non garunsheed deals ...but I doubt the players will give that up. but I agree the current model is flawed.

    Any deal that has guys like barnes/Parsons as max or near max is very flawed.
    non-guaranteed deals. What a load of crap to only have contracts count one way.

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