Gotta give James credit all his "power moves" have turned up aces.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16...land-cavaliers
Next July, the Cavs would gain James' full rights, putting Cleveland in a position to offer James a five-year deal that currently is projected to be worth between $201 million and $205 million, depending on various models NBA teams are using for revenue growth.
Under such parameters, James would become the highest-paid player in league history for the 2017-18 season by earning $35 million, passing Michael Jordan's record of $33 million in 1997-98.
I remember dudes on here well respected posters, arguing with me that LeBron doesn't NEED this money since he makes so much from KIA, Mcdonald's,Nike, Apple etc.
Like I told you guys then:
LeBron said years ago he wanted to be a billionaire.
This is also about respect the best player since jordan should be paid like Jordan
No way was LeBron going to watch lessor players make all this money and he not cash in ...
It's not his responsibility to take less when he does so much more than his team-mates ...
not everyone is Tim Duncan or Dirk and he shouldn't be.
Like I told you clowns how can a owner turn around and pay Wes MAtthews $70 million and then ask Dirk to take a paycut to help out?
That is bull .
Props to James. Make the rich sword swallower Gilbert pay up. With all James has done for Cleveland (minus the decision) $200 million is not enough to be honest.
Eff these owners.
James should not need to limit his salary so they can turn around and pay broke down Noah types 18 million per season ...
Gotta give James credit all his "power moves" have turned up aces.
LeBron is going to squeeze every nickel he can out of Dan Gilbert. And you know what? He should. Good for him.
Abso enlutely ...
That is why i dont know why posters on here were debating me on this ... it makes no sense.
The best talent in any field should make the most $
The league and gilbert profit off him way more than $200 million
his already got a 1b dollar shoe deal, why does he need 1b for?
does he want 1b in salary from nba or total including endorsements?
as for mj, he only made his 1b cause the bobcats franchise went up in value which is probably 70% of his net value
But isnt that (NIKE) paid over a liftetime deal?
And again let's put this in the business world.
If you had a side business that was paying you more than your salary ... in car sales or real-estate on the weekend?
Would that mean your corporate 9 to 5 should pay you less?
If you are giving 110% everyday and was the top of your field as a programmer, marketing exec whatever ... would you expect to get paid less than the mediocre performers? Why should your extra income outside of the workplace impact your salary in it? how does THAT make sense? Especially if you are working for a Fortune 500?
I dont see why ANYONE would expect James the best player in the game unquestioned for the last 5 years or more ... why should he not get a max deal? To give more money to Kevin Love, JR smith and Iman Shumpert?!
eff that BS ...
Dirk took paycuts because he wanted, not because he was asked to
Lebron I good enough to carry flawed team to a le or at least the finals in a historically weak, or at least lopsided, league. Duncan and dirk, at their age, was no longer able to do it in their mid to late 30s.
You are basically trying to defend Kobe, and the fact is when Kobe signed that 48.5 contract, it hamstrung the lakers and basically set them back for 4 or 5 years. Lebron didn't.
No i am not.
Jeez, why do you guys ( YOU) make everything about Kobe? Deeps and others can tell you I posted here that I wanted Kobe to take $15 million or less. No matter what you or I think of Kobe ... at the time of Kobe's extension the Achilles was ruptured. so That has nothing to do with this. Lebron is at (the tail end of) his prime and has been incredibly durable.
Besides, The Lakers did not ask Kobe to take less to pay Lou williams or nick Young ...so how does that even apply here? I am not even saying the cavs are asking him to take less, I am calling out you morons that (cant remember if you were one) are top tier posters who argued not only that Lerbon should take less but that he would because the salary money did not matter. it does. Great players in their primes have huge egos (breaking news) and them not making MAX money is a slap in the face. The problem lies when guys past those primes (like Kobe the past two years) are still getting that money. I cannot and will not defend Kobe on that. Saying he was owed it for seats or merch sales is a wholly different argument ... or that he hurt the team are not relevant to what Lebron deserves.
BTw, Kobe got his so why do I need to defend that?I am defending Dirk and Timmy to an extent but this is about James. And I wont lie .. a long while back I was asked to take a salary reduction (after a raise only 6 months before) so maybe I am sensitive to the subject.
I also have been told a while back that I hit the max range for my position salary and could not get anymore merit increase unless I was a director. that at times I worked harder than him ... I get he was gonna make more but dont tell me you cannot increase my salary that is bull theydsid not want to ...so ... Eventually I left and now I make more.
But if you cannot tell I am pro Union over the owners ... that is real reason behind my argument ...
BTW, Kobe has never taken less to help the Lakers sign anyone else.
Neither has James. But why should LeBron?
Kobe should have taken less in his last extension because he was done the night of the achilles. In his prime? I would argue differently.
Last edited by Killakobe81; 06-30-2016 at 10:28 AM.
Come on nowPlease read that line yourself, out loud, in front of people.
maybe it's overstated on Ben & skin, the ticket etc.
But that is all I hear on the local radio is that we should appreciate Dirk because he did this for the team to get better players but the Mavs have failed to hold up their end of the "agreement". Implying that they have asked dirk to sacrifice for the team.
Skin does do the local sideline stuff for the Mavs so I think he is better connected than you are, 140.
Last edited by Killakobe81; 06-30-2016 at 10:21 AM.
Dirk the cuckold really should be taking the same deal. I'd applaud him if he did
That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying he was never asked about it, I'm saying he did it because it was the best for the team and would've done so regardless of being asked or not. He has said plenty of times he has already made more than enough money plus he has no agent to push him to get bigger deals.
I'm not even a fan of the guy but you're clearly trying to make Cuban look worse than he already is tbh...but then again that's your agenda, along with defending kirby![]()
I dont like Cubes ...But I do think he is a good player's owner.
I love Dirk. And think it's ty he has to take less for Wes MAtthews.
Just because I hate Cubes doesnt mean I am wrong ...
what do I need to prove?
a while back some here argued with me that Lebron did not care about his NBA salary.
I posted an article that postulates that Lebron has put a plan in place to make the biggest salary ever.
I think LeBron should be able to earn whatever the market will bear.
There is no proving anything, except that I was right about James's mind-set.
if that's it, than yeah, sure..
at the time of that argument I was arguing this ...
http://www.businessinsider.com/micha...lebron-2014-10
According to ESPN's ace LeBron reporter Brian Windhorst, the Cavaliers star could lead a push to get rid of the max salary rule when the collective bargaining agreement is renegotiated in 2017. It's something multiple NBA stars have talked about in recent years. The NBA's new TV deal — which nearly tripled its average annual TV rights revenue — has flooded the league with new money, and LeBron reportedly wants a healthy chunk of it to go to star players like him whose earnings potential is capped.
At the time the salary cap was $26.9 million, and the average NBA team payroll was $32.7 million. There was no maximum salary rule, and teams were allowed to go over the $26.9 million salary cap to re-sign their own free agents. So in summer 1997, Jordan signed a one-year, $33.1 million contract that would be impossible under the maximum salary rules, which were established in response to the contract in 1999.
Jordan's 1997-1998 contract was insane in retrospect. His salary alone was more than the entire payrolls of 19 out of 29 NBA teams that year.
If the same rules were in effect today, Jordan's salary would be worth $66.6 million, based on adjusted average payroll numbers. $66.6 million!
And ...
I dont know where this notion that James did not care about his salary when everything he has done says otherwise. On the court dude is the opposite of Kobe unselfish to a fault. But off the court everything he says and does is based on building his brand, legacy and acquiring wealth and power. And I do NOT blame him one bit. It's dumb to expect stars to leave salary on the table when their value is high .
i still don't see what you are trying to say.. that he wants to be paid more... well duh..
1. It's interesting because he is the most powerful player in the NBA and probably in all of US sports and he will definitely shape the next CBA ...
2. Like i said it's in response to a debate I had when Lebron was considering leaving Miami about the factor of money and how some argued it did not matter much because of his endorsements.
3. But those guys are awfully quiet and I am to lazy to look up those old threads ...![]()
1. he won't, he has 0 leverage.
2. well money clearly wasn't a factor there.
Nobody says Lebron should take less. Everybody said Kobe should have gotten less. The argument first started when a couple of re ed laker fans defend Kobe by saying superstars should not take less like Duncan or dirk and those two are idiots for doing so. Ignoring the fact that Kobe nuclear bombed the lakers. Lebron didn't.
You do not recall what we were discussing in full.
But of course you remember the part pertaining to Achilles, big surprise.
Some very much argued specifically that money would not factor because of how much he makes in endorsements which has been proven untrue. Achilles, dirk and Tim were not in their primes when they took less. and again are irrelevant. I am discussing James. Stay on topic, please.
It's not a factor doesn't mean he shouldn't take the max, which is true. He gets what he wants but the value is not the point, the ego is.
God, even post-retirement, Ambchang can't post without mentioning Kobe![]()
yep.
To bring this back ...
How smart is James?
though killed for the decision the dude is like hannibal from the A-Team.
he got 2 ring with Wade
live on Star Island ...
Go back home
Win a chip
Lifetime Nike deal
About to break the bank
Stronger union rep than even CP3 ...
It's Lebron's world now and to think just two weeks ago we thought he was losing the chip ...
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