Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

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[DPG21920]

[raybies]

you either sign with us or don't, life goes on

[AFBlue]

Meh. He's only heard one pitch so far and it's the hometown team. I'm guessing his outlook might be different after hearing from six other teams about how he could be the key to an epic run of multiple championships.

Not saying the report is inaccurate, but it's a snapshot in time that could change drastically in just a day or two.

[DPG21920]

I mean, I think even the teams outside of OKC meeting with him knew it's very unlikely that he leaves OKC - this just gives a little more context into the mindset.

[Duncan2177]

Meh. He's only heard one pitch so far and it's the hometown team. I'm guessing his outlook might be different after hearing from six other teams about how he could be the key to an epic run of multiple championships.

Not saying the report is inaccurate, but it's a snapshot in time that could change drastically in just a day or two.

It's just wishful thinking by ESPN.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

I mean, I think even the teams outside of OKC meeting with him knew it's very unlikely that he leaves OKC - this just gives a little more context into the mindset.

Agreed...I wasn't seriously counting on the chances of Durant jumping ship either but it is exciting that the Spurs at least will get a chance to see how it goes and what happens...

[Nathan89]

While Terrence Jones might make a good value contact, with Boris and Livio pf is full. Aldridge needs a true center to start with. He's most comfortable playing the four imo where he has a size advantage. Not to mention if Durant resigns with OKC, their size will still be a problem as well as lac. These are most likely second round opponents so we need to get through them first.

As for borrousis, I think we only want him if Duncan retires, someone like Pau or mozgov gets signed and we have to let boban go. Can't have him and boban for defensive purposes. I can't say it enough, we need mobile centers like Milutinov more.

The spurs won't have a size problem with LMA at center vs LAC. He should be able to post-up Jordan. More importantly though he'll take Jordan out of the paint. LMA at center works best with a pg that can take advantage of centers that don't want to come out though. At the moment we don't have one.

Aldridge may need a center to best maximize his post game but the team will not function with a true center.

[Nathan89]

It'd be an awful decision for him to leave OKC. You don't leave a contender. One le in OKC will feel better than 4 with GSW.

[RD2191]

It'd be an awful decision for him to leave OKC. You don't leave a contender. One le in OKC will feel better than 4 with GSW.

I have to agree with this.

[raybies]

The spurs won't have a size problem with LMA at center vs LAC. He should be able to post-up Jordan. More importantly though he'll take Jordan out of the paint. LMA at center works best with a pg that can take advantage of centers that don't want to come out though. At the moment we don't have one.

Aldridge may need a center to best maximize his post game but the team will not function with a true center.

And who will Jones guard on defense, Blake or DeAndre? Thoughts. Imo he would get destroyed by either but in different ways. Blake could beat him off the dribble or bully him or DeAndre would eat him up on the boards. Maybe I'm picky but I don't want a liability to start a game. He should be fine with most teams but why prepare to fail in the playoffs. Offensively I think the fit for would be good, it's defensively against lac and okc that i worry about. Would rather have a more sound pairing next to LMA. How's his pnr defense? I don't remember. But I know with Pau he offers the size we desire but lacks the mobility. If we're talking bargain bin shopping I guess I could live with it but who else would we get? We already have alot of folks in the pipeline who's got next. I remember a few months ago we were talking like would we really have three rookies on the squad, now it looks like it's possible we could have more than that.

[BillMc]

I used to be an executive recruiter (i.e. headhunter). Plenty of time we'd talk to people about switching jobs and they'd say "they were 99% sure" one way or the other about going or staying. From my experience when someone says "99%" it's actually about 50/50. That 1% out there means there is some issue in the air, and they wouldn't be talking to you if there wasn't a chance they'd leave. Durant has some real issues too. Maybe they've been solved by the moves just made (Ibaka, etc) and OKC should still be the favorite but I'd say there is at least a 30% chance he leaves, probably higher. One of these 5 outsider clubs will strike some chord with KD and it'll get real. I'm not saying he'll leave but the Thunder have plenty of reason to sweat the next few days,

[NikosChelsea7]

[BatManu20]

[BatManu20]

[raybies]

Always liked Ryan Kelley. Don't think he can stay healthy though. Sign him to the Spurs. Austin that is.

[coachmac87]

This is so dumb to me. Not sure if I blame the media or Durant. Why not just sign the +1 or whatever in OKC. Use yourself as leverage towards other free agents to get more assets like Horford etc. Why hold up the Thunder or make things harder?

[HarlemHeat37]

Looks like Luol Deng is near-100% gone from Miami..

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[Nathan89]

And who will Jones guard on defense, Blake or DeAndre? Thoughts. Imo he would get destroyed by either but in different ways. Blake could beat him off the dribble or bully him or DeAndre would eat him up on the boards. Maybe I'm picky but I don't want a liability to start a game. He should be fine with most teams but why prepare to fail in the playoffs. Offensively I think the fit for would be good, it's defensively against lac and okc that i worry about. Would rather have a more sound pairing next to LMA. How's his pnr defense? I don't remember. But I know with Pau he offers the size we desire but lacks the mobility. If we're talking bargain bin shopping I guess I could live with it but who else would we get? We already have alot of folks in the pipeline who's got next. I remember a few months ago we were talking like would we really have three rookies on the squad, now it looks like it's possible we could have more than that.

I honestly don't don't know how good at defense Jones is but rebounding isn't the factor I'm most interested in. Mobility is my most important factor. If he can't guard Blake then I'll live with him doing his best on Jordan. I just don't see any possible way we can survive against GSW if comeback with a lineup that doesn't have any dribble penetration like last year.

[Chinook]

And who will Jones guard on defense, Blake or DeAndre? Thoughts. Imo he would get destroyed by either but in different ways. Blake could beat him off the dribble or bully him or DeAndre would eat him up on the boards. Maybe I'm picky but I don't want a liability to start a game. He should be fine with most teams but why prepare to fail in the playoffs. Offensively I think the fit for would be good, it's defensively against lac and okc that i worry about. Would rather have a more sound pairing next to LMA. How's his pnr defense? I don't remember. But I know with Pau he offers the size we desire but lacks the mobility. If we're talking bargain bin shopping I guess I could live with it but who else would we get? We already have alot of folks in the pipeline who's got next. I remember a few months ago we were talking like would we really have three rookies on the squad, now it looks like it's possible we could have more than that.

I think you think Griffin is bigger than he is. Dude is just over 6-8 without shoes; Jones is a quarter-inch shorter. They're the same weight. Blake doesn't have a tremendous physical advantage. They are both nimble and mobile, so "staying in front" isn't the problem. Anyway, size is getting massively overrated on the board right now. The Spurs beat the Thunder if they have a healthy Terrance Jones on the bench rather than loafing Diaw and ice-cold West.

[HarlemHeat37]

Windhorst and Zach Lowe had a podcast today, both mentioned that the Spurs are probably a long shot for Durant, but that there will be a long list of suitors for Danny Green if they have to trade him(many teams are going to be waiting on the sidelines, rather than spending money, and waiting for castoffs from teams shedding salary for the bigger names like Durant)..

[coachmac87]

Windhorst and Zach Lowe had a podcast today, both mentioned that the Spurs are probably a long shot for Durant, but that there will be a long list of suitors for Danny Green if they have to trade him(many teams are going to be waiting on the sidelines, rather than spending money, and waiting for castoffs from teams shedding salary for the bigger names like Durant)..

I saw a poll on First Take with odds and it had Spurs last... Knicks with better odds this whole thing has become a joke tbh

[DPG21920]

I used to be an executive recruiter (i.e. headhunter). Plenty of time we'd talk to people about switching jobs and they'd say "they were 99% sure" one way or the other about going or staying. From my experience when someone says "99%" it's actually about 50/50. That 1% out there means there is some issue in the air, and they wouldn't be talking to you if there wasn't a chance they'd leave. Durant has some real issues too. Maybe they've been solved by the moves just made (Ibaka, etc) and OKC should still be the favorite but I'd say there is at least a 30% chance he leaves, probably higher. One of these 5 outsider clubs will strike some chord with KD and it'll get real. I'm not saying he'll leave but the Thunder have plenty of reason to sweat the next few days,

Good insights - nba works differently than the normal job world especially because there is usually not this much money difference in staying vs leaving (and I would imagine money is usually a bigger issue in the "real world" as reason for leaving a company).

But still good points. I mean, he's not helping OKC by taking meetings so I do believe he at least has curiosity in leaving. Just don't think it's likely because of history of FA's staying for money so many times (guys like LMA being outliers).

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