Europe: More LMAO'ing at povertyball.

[midnightpulp]

Yeah, except just tonight one game lasted 6:13 and another 4:30

Complete waste of time for all parties involved.

Average baseball game is under 3 hours.

Given the fact you love all European sports, where's your rallying cry against cricket that can have instances of a ONE batter hitting for 10 or more hours? Or tennis, which can last 4 or more hours (and has the most repe ive action of any major sport)? Or golf (something tells me you don't like golf, though)?

Baseball is actually pretty middle of the road time wise.

[Kawhitstorm]

And that's just 0-0 ties . Do the math, and we're talking over 100 zero-zero ties per in' year

BRB, finding out how many ties there's been overall.

Dumbass, there is no such thing a tie in a knockout stage.

LAS VEGAS –

The National Hockey League Board of Governors today approved rules changes for the 2015-16 season that will change the overtime format to 3-on-3 for five minutes, expand the use of video review to include a Coach's Challenge within a limited scope of scenarios and amend face-off protocol.

The Board acted on the series of recommendations it received from the NHL/NHLPA Compe ion Committee and the NHL General Managers.

4. If the game remains tied at the end of the five (5) minute overtime period, the teams will proceed to a three-round shootout. After each team has taken three shots, if the score remains tied, the shootout will proceed to a "sudden death" format.

Wanna-be-like-futbol

[Kawhitstorm]

The adverts you get depend on where you're watching.

Only ads that promote compulsive behavior are applicable to futbol b/c nobody is paying attention to the halftime show after the first 30 seconds while they are walking to the restroom. (Ain't nobody watching a 2 minutes Verizon ad)

[Kawhitstorm]

If fans rushed the field like that in this era, they would be shot dead

Today's MLB

They were trying to shoot Hank Aron in 1976 for breaking Babe "The Great White Hope" Ruths' HR record.

[Splits]

Average baseball game is under 3 hours.

Given the fact you love all European sports, where's your rallying cry against cricket that can have instances of a ONE batter hitting for 10 or more hours? Or tennis, which can last 4 or more hours (and has the most repe ive action of any major sport)? Or golf (something tells me you don't like golf, though)?

Baseball is actually pretty middle of the road time wise.

THREE HOURS on average? With 162+playoffs?

cricket (don't even know the rules) and golf. Tennis majors are decent, but I would never watch a full men's match unless it is the finals, just from the 3rd set on. , I didn't even watch the NBA Finals from start to finish. The only games I can watch from beginning to end are Spurs or games I bet with you. And major tournament football matches, since I know when they start and end. I've got a busy life, sports are a hobby not an obsession.

SIX HOURS

[midnightpulp]

Dumbass, there is no such thing a tie in a knockout stage.



[B]Wanna-be-like-futbol

Yeah, it just ends in a Mario Party minigame

"Spurs and Warriors are still tied after 2 OTs. Time for the 3 point shootout!"

I'm against the shootout in hockey. Unlike povertyball fans, I can be honest about the flaws with American sports. You guys treat soccer like a in' sacred idol that "thou should not take its name in vain."

Baseball:

- Link umps up with pitchtrax.

- the Buster Posey and Wilmer Flores rules and bring back collisions.

- Get rid of divisions. American and National League only. Top 4 teams in each league makes the post-season.

Keep everything else the same, though. I don't give a about what "casuals" want. Shortening the regular season to something like 82 games would make the MLB a star driven league and make roster building a simplistic joke. Also against a pitch clock. People who never played baseball really don't understand how mentally draining pitching is and you need time to psychologically reset after a pitch.

NFL

- Goodellball (listing all the problems here would bore you more than soccer bores me).

- Get rid of divisions.

NBA

- Refine rules so that defenders don't get whistled for being within 20 feet of a "star" perimeter player.

- Need much more referee consistency. Not sure how that will ever be possible since the NBA is too fast paced for a ref to see everything.

- All timeouts called within the last 2 minutes are reduced to 20 seconds. More than enough time for Lue to tell Lebron to take it the hole.

[Caltex2]

I don't see the point in this exercise, you can do it with any sport, especially easy ones to play like basketball but even ones really expensive and hard to play like hockey:







That said, soccer is the easiest and least expensive to play followed by basketball.

[midnightpulp]

THREE HOURS on average? With 162+playoffs?

cricket (don't even know the rules) and golf. Tennis majors are decent, but I would never watch a full men's match unless it is the finals, just from the 3rd set on. , I didn't even watch the NBA Finals from start to finish. The only games I can watch from beginning to end are Spurs or games I bet with you. And major tournament football matches, since I know when they start and end. I've got a busy life, sports are a hobby not an obsession.

SIX HOURS

Soccer games are about 2 hours on average when you factor in half-time and injury time. Baseball isn't much longer on average.

Baseball is also the evening's entertainment for a lot of people in lieu of watching 3 hours of ty and unfunny sitcoms or reality shows. It's why baseball crushes it in local ratings.

I get not having time to follow sports. I don't religiously watch as much as you might think. I just don't want to see a sport comprised to appeal to reality show obsessed dip s who spend 5 hours on twitter. I'm even against reforming test cricket, despite me knowing little about it.

[Kawhitstorm]

Yeah, it just ends in a Mario Party minigame

"Spurs and Warriors are still tied after 2 OTs. Time for the 3 point shootout!"

Ever heard of FTs & intentional fouls. (Game decided by a shot a 10 year old girl can convert at a proficient rate)

Keep everything else the same, though. I don't give a about what "casuals" want. Shortening the regular season to something like 82 games would make the MLB a star driven league and make roster building a simplistic joke. Also against a pitch clock. People who never played baseball really don't understand how mentally draining pitching is and you need time to psychologically reset after a pitch.

It would help if the batters didn't call a timeout to spit on their glove & adjust their wardrobe after they already did it before they stepped into the batters box. (They're like chicks who have to fix their hair & makeup every 5 minutes)

[Splits]

Yeah, it just ends in a Mario Party minigame

"Spurs and Warriors are still tied after 2 OTs. Time for the 3 point shootout!"

I'm against the shootout in hockey. Unlike povertyball fans, I can be honest about the flaws with American sports. You guys treat soccer like a in' sacred idol that "thou should not take its name in vain."

Baseball:

- Link umps up with pitchtrax.

- the Buster Posey and Wilmer Flores rules and bring back collisions.

- Get rid of divisions. American and National League only. Top 4 teams in each league makes the post-season.

Keep everything else the same, though. I don't give a about what "casuals" want. Shortening the regular season to something like 82 games would make the MLB a star driven league and make roster building a simplistic joke. Also against a pitch clock. People who never played baseball really don't understand how mentally draining pitching is and you need time to psychologically reset after a pitch.

NFL

- Goodellball (listing all the problems here would bore you more than soccer bores me).

- Get rid of divisions.

NBA

- Refine rules so that defenders don't get whistled for being within 20 feet of a "star" perimeter player.

- Need much more referee consistency. Not sure how that will ever be possible since the NBA is too fast paced for a ref to see everything.

- All timeouts called within the last 2 minutes are reduced to 20 seconds. More than enough time for Lue to tell Lebron to take it the hole.

I actually agree. With football:

- Make offside calls less likely. If the attacking player is not completely ahead of the defender, but anywhere behind (i.e. if attacking player back foot behind defender front foot, it is not offsides), it is a legal play

- Discourage penaldos in knockout stages by

• allowing additional subs utions
• give each team a time out to catch their breathe
• allow re-entry of subs uted players
• instead of two 15 minute extra time periods, single 45 minute extra time and "golden goal" where first team that scores wins

I'd love to see a way to get away from penaldos, but just don't think it is possible given the crazy demands on the players to compete for every ball and the scarcity of scoring. The offside changes mentioned above would make scoring easier, thus less chance for ties/penaldos.

[Splits]

Baseball isn't much longer on average.

Yes it is. Purely from first pitch to final score, it is 33% longer. If you factor in all of the additional delays (not starting at the top of the hour, rain, wind, fights, etc) it is even more. With football, it starts at exactly the same time every time, you can skip the halftime nonsense, and it ends exactly 1:45 from the time it began. Quite convenient for those of us who keep a schedule/have kids/have lives.

[midnightpulp]

Ever heard of FTs & intentional fouls. (Game decided by a shot a 10 year old girl can convert at a proficient rate)



It would help if the batters didn't call a timeout to spit on their glove & adjust their wardrobe after they already did it before they stepped into the batters box. (They're like chicks who have to fix their hair & makeup every 5 minutes)

Free throws are an inherent part of basketball, though. Just like a penalty kick in soccer.

I'm against the shootout concept because it's an arbitrary minigame that barely resembles the main game. I don't care how dramatic they are. It's a silly way to decide a major match.

And if the NBA adopted something like it, I would boycott.

I'm not attacking soccer, but it's implementation of the shootout. In the old days, I read that tie games would just keep on going until someone won, even if they had to play the match on a different day (i.e. game is called after 120 minutes and continued the following day or week or whatever).

And yes, I do realize the logistical problems of doing such a thing today when you have people traveling from thousands of miles to a World Cup Final. The shootout was added to literally attract and pacify the viewer rather than "improve" the sport.

[midnightpulp]

I actually agree. With football:

- Make offside calls less likely. If the attacking player is not completely ahead of the defender, but anywhere behind (i.e. if attacking player back foot behind defender front foot, it is not offsides), it is a legal play

- Discourage penaldos in knockout stages by

• allowing additional subs utions
• give each team a time out to catch their breathe
• allow re-entry of subs uted players
• instead of two 15 minute extra time periods, single 45 minute extra time and "golden goal" where first team that scores wins

I'd love to see a way to get away from penaldos, but just don't think it is possible given the crazy demands on the players to compete for every ball and the scarcity of scoring. The offside changes mentioned above would make scoring easier, thus less chance for ties.

Yeah, the fact soccer doesn't have unlimited subs baffles me. I assume it was to test endurance or whatever, but we have to remember when this rule was codified: during a period in which I'm sure soccer was a much less athletic and up-and-down game. Basketball is seeing the same thing now. Players could easily go 48 minutes in the time of Wilt and Russell, but now with all the space they have to cover defending the 3, that's no longer feasible. But basketball has unlimited subs.

[Kawhitstorm]

I actually agree. With football:

- Make offside calls less likely. If the attacking player is not completely ahead of the defender, but anywhere behind (i.e. if attacking player back foot behind defender front foot, it is not offsides), it is a legal play

That would alleviate the controversy when it comes to the game of inches especially if teams (Italy) are playing the offside trap.

• instead of two 15 minute extra time periods, single 45 minute extra time and "golden goal" where first team that scores wins

I'd love to see a way to get away from penaldos, but just don't think it is possible given the crazy demands on the players to compete for every ball and the scarcity of scoring. The offside changes mentioned above would make scoring easier, thus less chance for ties.

Fans prefer the "Golden Goal" but players on the losing sides hated the "Sudden Death" which was why it got revoked.

[Arcadian]

What point are you ultimately trying to make? This seems to be a debate about which sport is more associated with poverty. What does that mean? Are you implying that poor people are generally worse and have worse opinions?

[Splits]

Yeah, the fact soccer doesn't have unlimited subs baffles me. I assume it was to test endurance or whatever, but we have to remember when this rule was codified: during a period in which I'm sure soccer was a much less athletic and up-and-down game. Basketball is seeing the same thing now. Players could easily go 48 minutes in the time of Wilt and Russell, but now with all the space they have to cover defending the 3, that's no longer feasible. But basketball has unlimited subs.

Basketball, and to some degree US football and beisbol, have allowed their game to evolve. With football, it is like the rules were codified in stone at inception and any changes are an affront to the integrity of the game It is frustrating, but when the game is played in all 196 countries, and is so meaningful to a majority of people globally, rule changes are like an aircraft carrier doing a 180.

Basketball has somehow ins uted different rules for different leagues (3pt line distance, goaltending rules, lane violations, etc). Seems impossible for a universal sport like football.

[Kawhitstorm]

Yeah, the fact soccer doesn't have unlimited subs baffles me. I assume it was to test endurance or whatever, but we have to remember when this rule was codified: during a period in which I'm sure soccer was a much less athletic and up-and-down game.

Futbol doesn't have unlimited subs to prevent teams from using enforcers who can get away w/ a yellow card warning. The main strategy against proficient strikers such as Messi/CR7 is to foul them when they are dribbling in open space & eat the yellow which means the defenders are at the risk of getting sent off b/c all the offenders can't be subbed out.

If they had unlimited subs then teams like Italy would just muck up EVERY game like the Bad Boys Pistons.

[Stalin]

What point are you ultimately trying to make? This seems to be a debate about which sport is more associated with poverty. What does that mean? Are you implying that poor people are generally worse and have worse opinions?

[Splits]

I do have to say, the lack of creativity for football haters on ST is pathetic. While you may think "povertyball" or "poorball" is funny (it isn't), the actual criticism of international football should be the shocking and ongoing corruption scandal. The true, accurate criticism is the fact that FIFA is run like a mafia and almost every top official over the past 20 years is under investigation or prosecution for screwing the world's poor/middle-class to enrich themselves.

I mean the next WC is going to be held in Russia and the one after in ing Qatar. That is a REAL scandal and should be constantly pounded upon.

But, unsurprisingly, when an effort led by the likes of CN to try and de-legitimatize something he doesn't like, the least common denominator ends up being something stupid povertyball instead of an accurate assault.

Weak , tbh. Pretty sad that a quality poster like Mid has fallen into a poster like CN's mindset.

[Caltex2]

My problem with soccer, one of many actually, is that they all but eliminate the equivalent of a fast break with offsides. It's already hard enough to kick, move the ball and score with your feet but now you can't go to an open player unless there's a defender close by? I understand that you don't want people poaching and for players to play the entire field but it eliminates a lot of would be excitement from soccer.

Imagine if they eliminated the outlet pass from basketball. We'd miss a slam dunk because of a whistle. More futbol games would end 7-6 in regulation if offsides wasn't called like it is. Don't allow obvious poaching but if an offensive player has a break and some space, let him play.

[midnightpulp]

I do have to say, the lack of creativity for football haters on ST is pathetic. While you may think "povertyball" or "poorball" is funny (it isn't), the actual criticism of international football should be the shocking and ongoing corruption scandal. The true, accurate criticism is the fact that FIFA is run like a mafia and almost every top official over the past 20 years is under investigation or prosecution for screwing the world's poor/middle-class to enrich themselves.

I mean the next WC is going to be held in Russia and the one after in ing Qatar. That is a REAL scandal and should be constantly pounded upon.

But, unsurprisingly, when an effort led by the likes of CN to try and de-legitimatize something he doesn't like, the least common denominator ends up being something stupid povertyball instead of an accurate assault.

Weak , tbh. Pretty sad that a quality poster like Mid has fallen into a poster like CN's mindset.

"Povertyball" is just the joke name for the sport because of the fact that it's the cheapest major sport to play and thus has devoted following in poorer countries. It's basically caricaturizing a segment of the game's landscape and inflating it for comical/trolling purposes, much like Baseball haters do when they call baseball "fatball."

I could also use the same argument here and say that by calling baseball "fatball" you're devaluing fat people as a result, deeming them less worthy sportsmen/human beings than "shredded" athletes/people.

But I don't think we're taking it that seriously.

I agree about the FIFA corruption, but criticizing it doesn't really strike the nerves of the soccer crew in this pissing contest.

[midnightpulp]

Futbol doesn't have unlimited subs to prevent teams from using enforcers who can get away w/ a yellow card warning. The main strategy against proficient strikers such as Messi/CR7 is to foul them when they are dribbling in open space & eat the yellow which means the defenders are at the risk of getting sent off b/c all the offenders can't be subbed out.

If they had unlimited subs then teams like Italy would just muck up EVERY game like the Bad Boys Pistons.

I would employ hockey rules here and just have fouls result in the player being sent off for 5 minutes or whatever, resulting in a powerplay for the other team.

[TheGreatYacht]

Cuba the best Stickball playing country in the world

Not that great of an accomplishment bc there's only like 4 countries

Cuba, Puerto Rico, Us of Gay, Japan

Communist ball

If a game isn't on the Olympics, is it even a sport?

[TheGreatYacht]

Snoozeball

Try to make it thru 30 seconds of this video

[midnightpulp]

Snoozeball

Try to make it thru 30 seconds of this video

There was actually considerably more action in that clip than here :



And the dumb fans are still chanting to keep themselves entertained