Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

**TheGreatYacht** · 07-03-2016

Pau is waiting until after the Durant decision, and the Spurs are waiting for the Durant decision. Not to mention that he hasn't taken Portland's 2yr/40M offer yet... It ain't that hard to connect one with another.

The way him and his brother have talked about the Spurs, it's obvious he wants to join.

Diaw would get sacrificed to make the money work. Worth it.

**tholdren** · 07-03-2016

Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I don't understand why people here keep thinking Gasol prioritizes winning

As I said last week and 2 years ago in the 100-page "Pau to Spurs" thread, he cares about money and touches.. He already has 2 rings, he has never been willing to sacrifice for winning, he's known as a complainer that pouts when he doesn't shoot enough..

He will go to the team that will give him money and touches..

Let's hope you are correct. Cue the It's happening. Pau is a glamor girl just like KD. Come out of the closet already.

**K...** · 07-03-2016

so i guess the gameplan is something like, trade green for picks if KD chooses us, then if pau, trade Diaw and filler for space.

**coachmac87** · 07-03-2016

Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

He will sign with the team that gives him the most money and touches..the fact that he hasn't signed with anybody yet doesn't have anything to do with my point..

You don't think him waiting on Durant who's had meetings with GSW or SA means anything? Most money or touches?? I don't believe that. Stein just said Portland has 2yr/40mil on the table. Why not sign that immediately?

**Hoops Czar** · 07-03-2016

Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

To clarify, when I say he doesn't care about "winning", I mean playing for contenders..as I said in the other thread, he's fine with playing for mid-tier teams that aren't contenders, like the Bulls..

He routinely complained about his touches and role in LA, and they were a bottom-feeder..

The Bulls offered the best combination of touches and money..if he cared about contending and strictly winning, he would have joined the Spurs..

Actually, he turned down a lot more money from the Lakers to join the Bulls so he probably does care a little bit.

**RayTdropout** · 07-03-2016

Ramona shel is the mallcops sister and looks like she can fuuk a toilet up

**NASpurs** · 07-03-2016

**Vic Petro** · 07-03-2016

Of course there are no absolutes. He'll sign with whoever offers the most money, or whoever has the best chance to win, or whoever offers the most touches, or whoever has the best modern art museum, or whatever. His decisions will be based on some combination of those factors. To use the fact that he hasn't signed yet as some kind of evidence he "definitely" wants to play for the Spurs is a leap. He's waiting for the biggest domino to fall so he can have all the concrete offers in front of him to choose the best fit.

To Harlem's point, if it's the difference between $12m a year in San Antonio or $20m a year in Portland or Minny, I sincerely doubt he is coming to San Antonio.

**RayTdropout** · 07-03-2016

Oj mayo is the type of player that would have gotten bank in this free agency. He fuuked up

**Mr. Body** · 07-03-2016

I don't see Gasol doing a David West and favoring us.

**HarlemHeat37** · 07-03-2016

Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

Actually, he turned down a lot more money from the Lakers to join the Bulls so he probably does care a little bit.

Mid-tier team vs. Bottom-feeder

If he cares about contending, he would have joined the Spurs, rather than a mid-tier Bulls team, especially since he "loves the Spurs", as most here seem to believe..

**Tully365** · 07-03-2016

Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

To clarify, when I say he doesn't care about "winning", I mean playing for contenders..as I said in the other thread, he's fine with playing for mid-tier teams that aren't contenders, like the Bulls..

He routinely complained about his touches and role in LA, and they were a bottom-feeder..

The Bulls offered the best combination of touches and money..if he cared about contending and strictly winning, he would have joined the Spurs..

If Portland offers substantially more money than the Spurs, I'll bet that he chooses them..perfect fit for him..

I think he's a pretty intelligent guy, and made a reasonable decision going to Chicago. If he thinks (at the time) that Rose has a shot at returning to form and a guy like Butler is going to continue to grow (which he did) and Noah will hold steady (he didn't unfortunately), it's really not a bad choice. It obviously didn't work out, but I can understand the thinking behind how Rose (healthy) + Butler + Noah (pre-decline) + Taj + Pau + one more piece would actually makes some serious noise in the playoffs.

**Mr. Body** · 07-03-2016

If it's an $8 million a year difference I can see him coming to the Spurs. Maybe.

**raybies** · 07-03-2016

At these prices I'm starting to fall Terrence Jones.

**HarlemHeat37** · 07-03-2016

Originally Posted by Tully365

I think he's a pretty intelligent guy, and made a reasonable decision going to Chicago. If he thinks (at the time) that Rose has a shot at returning to form and a guy like Butler is going to continue to grow (which he did) and Noah will hold steady (he didn't unfortunately), it's really not a bad choice. It obviously didn't work out, but I can understand the thinking behind how Rose (healthy) + Butler + Noah (pre-decline) + Taj + Pau + one more piece would actually makes some serious noise in the playoffs.

Sure, I could see them being a fringe team at the time(although the turmoil in their organization had already begun IIRC), but wasn't this in 2014 when the Spurs had just won the le? If he cares about winning more than anything and "loved the Spurs", seems odd that he didn't choose them..

Also, in addition to the money, he would be Portland's only big that can create his own shot..he would have a nice role with a high volume of shots..

**Vic Petro** · 07-03-2016

**Tully365** · 07-03-2016

Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Sure, I could see them being a fringe team at the time(although the turmoil in their organization had already begun IIRC), but wasn't this in 2014 when the Spurs had just won the le? If he cares about winning more than anything and "loved the Spurs", seems odd that he didn't choose them..

Also, in addition to the money, he would be Portland's only big that can create his own shot..he would have a nice role with a high volume of shots..

Yeah-- I think the whole "loves the Spurs" thing is overplayed around here... I'm sure he'd also say that he "loves Phil Jackson/his brother Marc/the cosmopolitan culture of NYC/the philanthropy of Mark Cuban/ etc., etc..." He's a pretty diplomatic guy. He has rarely said a negative word publicly about Kobe, but I'm sure he has a few private thoughts on the topic.

**raybies** · 07-03-2016

**GSH** · 07-03-2016

Originally Posted by NASpurs

that, I rather take my chances with the international players and D Leaguers

I've been saying it since the night free agency opened. I don't think there will be much of a choice. I'm sure the Spurs would make room for Durant, if he wanted to come. And I think they would rather have Gasol, if he agreed to play for less than he will get offered elsewhere. But I don't think either of those things will happen. And I think it's pretty clear that if neither one of those does happen, they are planning on harvesting as much as they can from their stash players, D-League, and/or finding a Euro player like Bourousis to make the break to the NBA.

They may find a player, or even two, that another team has to move to clear cap space. Portland is sitting on Crabbe and Harkless, and I don't think they will be able to keep both. Utah had three that they considered expendable, but they already traded Burke for a 2021 second-round pick. None of those kinds of players are going to excite Spurs fans like Durant, but there will be some solid role-players sacrificed by other teams. But more and more I think that the balance of the roster will come from among the Euros and D-Leaguers we already know about.