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    Would have rather spent Pau's money on a Plumlee-Dedmon combo, tbh

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    God I hope the Bertans deal is longer than two years

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    Huge!!! Bertans at the minimum is a got damn life saver!!

    TP/DG/KL/LMA/Pau = Damn Solid SL against anyone.

    Patty/Simmons/Kyle/Bertans/LJC/Murray - need a SG/playmaker still and 2 more bigs at least (PF/C's), but any minimum signing with upside is great (Bertans).

    Still 4M in cap space (if Tim waived/stretched, more if they can trade him to a team for nothing back) + Room Exception + Min contracts (and any trades they can swing).
    you forgot about Manu

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    someone needs to create simmons can of he can not turn it over

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    you forgot about Manu
    manu is going to denver he talked to them when he was a fa once already

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    manu is going to denver he talked to them when he was a fa once already
    no way in Manu isn't in a Spurs uni

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    You know, running the numbers, I don't think the Spurs NEED to trade Diaw at all if they intend to stretch Tim. They should have JUST enough to complete this deal. That also means that stretching Tim and trading Diaw gives them about $7 Million they could use on bring in about big man (and hopefully not use on Manu's ass) or to retain Boban.

    Player Salary/Hold
    LaMarcus Aldridge $20,575,005
    Kawhi Leonard $17,638,063
    Pau Gasol $14,669,927
    Tony Parker $14,445,313
    Danny Green $10,000,000
    Boris Diaw $6,500,000
    Patty Mills $3,578,948
    Tim Duncan (Stretched) $2,131,250
    Kyle Anderson $1,192,080
    Livio Jean-Charles $990,700
    Dejounte Murray $983,400
    Jonathan Simmons $874,636
    Roster Charge $543,471
    Total $94,122,793
    Remaining Cap Space $20,207

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    manu is going to denver he talked to them when he was a fa once already
    And what he said back in 04 was that he would have left if it was an offer that was substantially more, but the Spurs offer was close enough that he decided to stay.

    Now maybe Manu will finally get that substantially bigger offer I guess.

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    Hibbert sign anywhere?

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    Which team left has the cap space and need for Boban?

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    And what he said back in 04 was that he would have left if it was an offer that was substantially more, but the Spurs offer was close enough that he decided to stay.

    Now maybe Manu will finally get that substantially bigger offer I guess.
    I love Manu but if he's offered double or triple from another team given this is his last chance to make some cash, then I wouldn't blame him.

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    Hopefully Bertans is better than Durant tbh.

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    no way in Manu isn't in a Spurs uni
    As lng as he wants the minimum sure

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    You know, running the numbers, I don't think the Spurs NEED to trade Diaw at all if they intend to stretch Tim. They should have JUST enough to complete this deal. That also means that stretching Tim and trading Diaw gives them about $7 Million they could use on bring in about big man (and hopefully not use on Manu's ass) or to retain Boban.

    Player Salary/Hold
    LaMarcus Aldridge $20,575,005
    Kawhi Leonard $17,638,063
    Pau Gasol $14,669,927
    Tony Parker $14,445,313
    Danny Green $10,000,000
    Boris Diaw $6,500,000
    Patty Mills $3,578,948
    Tim Duncan (Stretched) $2,131,250
    Kyle Anderson $1,192,080
    Livio Jean-Charles $990,700
    Dejounte Murray $983,400
    Jonathan Simmons $874,636
    Roster Charge $543,471
    Total $94,122,793
    Remaining Cap Space $20,207
    This is what I have too. This is why I'd be surprised if Spurs did not bring back a rookie or min contract in Diaw dump.

    Stretching Tim plus trading Diaw leaves Spurs enough space for Gasol, Boban at 5.6 plus a min/rookie deal coming back in deal.

    What is surprising is that they didn't have this deal ready to go. Seems like they're looking for it now. Odd.

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    Which team left has the cap space and need for Boban?
    Portland? They love biting off the Spurs, that's for sure.

    Brooklyn I think has room after the Crabbe rumor was premature. Brook Lopez starts but is a trade asset. And Marks has a relationship with him.

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    Hibbert sign anywhere?
    He's been terrible the last 2 seasons, gotta wonder how cheap he will be? Probably not cheap enough.

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    Why would Spurs be trading Diaw's contract and not Tim's if Tim is 100% NOT playing? Or is the door being kept open through that?

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    you forgot about Manu
    Nope. SA has to sign Manu with what they have left.

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    Which team left has the cap space and need for Boban?
    Atlanta might will have greater than mle room, but have Splitter for one more year plus Taveres.

    Phoenix should have cap space but plenty of bigs.

    Minnesota might still have room but plenty of bigs.

    Chicago might have some room, not sure after the Rondo signing. Team is being built for Hoiberg, don't know if Boban fits.

    Utah might have space but a lot of bigs.

    OKC might have some new room but too many bigs.

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    What is surprising is that they didn't have this deal ready to go. Seems like they're looking for it now. Odd.
    More and more I think the FO was surprised by Tim opting in. That and Durant wait plus unpredictable results of the new cap made this off season a bit chaotic for "schemers" like RC.

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    get rid of tp and boris to make room for: gasol, manu, robinson.

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    To those who understand the numbers, can Tim retire and come back mid season or post all-star break if someone gets injured and we need him?

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    If I were the Spurs, I would just stretch Tim right now. I'd tell him if that he could take as long as he wanted to decide and that when he did, there'd be a minimum contract waiting for him. That would actually represent an increase for Duncan if he were to take that deal, so I don't see why he wouldn't go for it. Then I'd tell other teams that we can sign Gasol without dealing Diaw so if they want Boris, they need to trade value for him. Then I'd see where Tim was on coming back. If he says no, then I use that space to sign a big like Dedmon. If he says yes, then I use the cap space on a guard first (because once again, please no Manu) before inking Tim, Bertans and the rookies.

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    If I were the Spurs, I would just stretch Tim right now. I'd tell him if that he could take as long as he wanted to decide and that when he did, there'd be a minimum contract waiting for him. That would actually represent an increase for Duncan if he were to take that deal, so I don't see why he wouldn't go for it. Then I'd tell other teams that we can sign Gasol without dealing Diaw so if they want Boris, they need to trade value for him. Then I'd see where Tim was on coming back. If he says no, then I use that space to sign a big like Dedmon. If he says yes, then I use the cap space on a guard first (because once again, please no Manu) before inking Tim, Bertans and the rookies.
    Can you resign someone who you just stretched?

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