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    The worst part of threads like this and the forum in general are the endless line of followers who can't stop themselves from desperately seeking out peer approval by blabbing on that the FO should add TP into an existing salary dump deal. Clearly this group can't tell the difference between the value in which a player actually has in relevance to the his salary, the existing roster and knowledge of the system and some ridiculous need to fit in on forum by ting on the flavor of the month.

    I agree that he's declined over the last few years but he's still a great value with his current contract. He can't be replaced by any realistic better option even if the team sought out additional salary dumps. There's no good argument for this without a viable solution to fill the hole. Shedding Diaw in a dump only makes sense now that a better option has been obtained. This isn't the case with Parker. Its stupidity and why this forum is rarely taken seriously by outsiders and quality posters who have simply given up on this place.
    Agree. There used to be mods who would have these twerps over a barrel then out the door in short form.

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    Jazz are under the floor and would likely take diaw

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    Woj mentioned that moving Diaw wasn't necessarily a guarantee but the most likely option, I would hope that if we do move him we get a decent 2nd rounder in return for him.

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    The posters who appear once in a blue moon to complain about how the quality of posters has gone down then don't do anything to try to fix it are the ones who aren't missed tbh.

    Also, looking around at all these horrendous contracts being given out like candy the Spurs could find someone willing to take Parker while getting a solid player in return (as well as much needed cap space to fill out the roster).
    Give me the power to fix it and I will.

    At his contract the only reasonable trade would have to come in the form of an up and comer on a rookie contract or someone who still shows signs of potential. No team is going to make that trade for a guy who's on the tail end of his career. You might get a quality player back but its not likely to be a PG...you're still left with the void.

    Additionally Parker isn't putting any contenders closer to a ring - so rule that out as well.

    TP's skill set at his current contract is way more logical than a slightly better player on a bloated deal. There's no argument to be made here. Its morons with weak ego's seeking attention.

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    Woj mentioned that moving Diaw wasn't necessarily a guarantee but the most likely option, I would hope that if we do move him we get a decent 2nd rounder in return for him.
    There's no such thing as a decent 2nd rounder. They're all a crapshoot.

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    Give me the power to fix it and I will.

    At his contract the only reasonable trade would have to come in the form of an up and comer on a rookie contract or someone who still shows signs of potential. No team is going to make that trade for a guy who's on the tail end of his career. You might get a quality player back but its not likely to be a PG...you're still left with the void.

    Additionally Parker isn't putting any contenders closer to a ring - so rule that out as well.
    You have the power to fix it: start generating good basketball discussions rather than complaining about it. I see plenty of threads containing great discussions, add to them or come up with your own.

    As for Parker, there have been several options out there to try:

    Brandon Jennings literally just got $5 mil to sign with the Knicks. Don't really like him but he's a better shooter than Parker and can penetrate fine, would fit well with Kawhi and LMA if he didn't chuck.

    MCW is a player I despise but he's young enough and gives the Spurs another Curry defender; cant shoot for but he could have his shot salvaged with the Spurs perhaps, and you know MIL would be interested in a vet PG fine with a coach calling a lot of the plays.

    Ish Smith was signed cheaply a bit ago and would've be a great possible option.

    The Spurs don't need too much in a starting PG outside youth, penetration, and an ability to get the ball to Kawhi and LMA. Thinking the Spurs would take a step back with moving Parker is nonsense; he hasn't been moved due to loyalty and stubbornness from Pop.

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    If Spurs move Diaw, what about for Joe Ingles from Utah?

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    Haha! You wish! No way Chicago does that!
    We'd probably have to trade a real asset and all our picks for the next 5 years to get Jimmy Butler

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    You have the power to fix it: start generating good basketball discussions rather than complaining about it. I see plenty of threads containing great discussions, add to them or come up with your own.

    As for Parker, there have been several options out there to try:

    Brandon Jennings literally just got $5 mil to sign with the Knicks. Don't really like him but he's a better shooter than Parker and can penetrate fine, would fit well with Kawhi and LMA if he didn't chuck.

    MCW is a player I despise but he's young enough and gives the Spurs another Curry defender; cant shoot for but he could have his shot salvaged with the Spurs perhaps, and you know MIL would be interested in a vet PG fine with a coach calling a lot of the plays.

    Ish Smith was signed cheaply a bit ago and would've be a great possible option.

    The Spurs don't need too much in a starting PG outside youth, penetration, and an ability to get the ball to Kawhi and LMA. Thinking the Spurs would take a step back with moving Parker is nonsense; he hasn't been moved due to loyalty and stubbornness from Pop.
    I don't have an issue with making an argument like above. Its the pointless and senseless pile on that's really annoying.

    Jenning is hardly a better shooter. Career shooting % is under 40%...I'm certain of that. Horrible shot selection and in the big picture Parker is a way better overall teammate than Jennings.

    I don't have an issue with MCW but he has no range and has barely been a difference maker since moving to a better team. He's statistically dropped every year in multiple categories. Not sure that works for either team.

    Ish is barely a flash in the pan. I'd rather have Mills...who knows the system.

    None of these are proven to be a better option than Parker.

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    Can we trade him for Ish Smith?

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    Damn, I left the house 4 hours ago. Still nothing

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    Can't give him away or what?

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    I wonder if the spurs can trade him for a second and delon wright of toronto...Wright was impressive in almost every significant minute he played with toronto..theybalso need a 4

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    Can't give him away or what?
    The problem is that he has a list of only 5 teams he wants to go to.

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    The problem is that he has a list of only 5 teams he wants to go to.
    Does he have a no trade clause? If not, trade him for the best deal.

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    Does he have a no trade clause? If not, trade him for the best deal.
    Not how the Spurs operate. If you don't like that, you are probably a fan of the wrong team. They will do everything possible to fulfill his request. No bobo no fifth ring.

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    Not how the Spurs operate. If you don't like that, you are probably a fan of the wrong team. They will do everything possible to fulfill his request. No bobo no fifth ring.
    The Spurs are all class. I'm sure they will try to trade him to one of the teams he likes but in the end they need to do what's best for SA and not Diaw.

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    Knowing Diaw, the 3 of the 5 teams would be Toronto, New Orleans, and Knicks. Most likely looking for multicultural area for sure.

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    I would move Patty before Boris. Boris can be useless when uninspired, but when inspired is a match up nightmare. Patty hasn't been the same since the injury.

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    We'd probably have to trade a real asset and all our picks for the next 5 years to get Jimmy Butler
    LMA, tbh.

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    Don't trade Diaw for ing

    has been Gasol, wtf Spurs.

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    Spurs will try and take care of Diaw. Just as they did with sending George Hill to the Pacers.it's a shame he played so poorly in that OKC series. We really needed him.

    We'll always have 2014 though... We don't do what we did without him.

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    I would move Patty before Boris. Boris can be useless when uninspired, but when inspired is a match up nightmare. Patty hasn't been the same since the injury.
    Patty looks to be in amazing shape this off-season. I'd bank on him having a bounce-back year

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    If Spurs move Diaw, what about for Joe Ingles from Utah?

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    There's no such thing as a decent 2nd rounder. They're all a crapshoot.
    anthing in the top 40 is a good pick, it is not uncommon for first round talent to fall into the second round.

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