trade to move Boris Diaw

[tholdren]

Not how the Spurs operate. If you don't like that, you are probably a fan of the wrong team. They will do everything possible to fulfill his request. No bobo no fifth ring.

Exactly how spurs should operate given fat-ass's lack of concern for the team the past 2 years. DNPCD during an elimination playoff game? Stop being a fruit trying to take pictures and talk art. You're hired as a basketball player. Play basketball, be in shape for basketball, contribute to basketball during all contracted years.

[Kawhitstorm]

Not to mention that the realistic trade partners for Parker aren't worth pursuing, at all(Bulls' Rose, Rubio, Dragic, etc)

It's an unfortunate situation for the Spurs, but there's virtually nothing they can do about it until he's off the books..event ignoring the loyalty factor, there aren't any positive value trades for Parker, and they never had any significant assets to sweeten the deal, either..

DUMP his salary on the Sixers & sign Choke-P3 next summer.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Play basketball, be in shape for basketball, contribute to basketball during all contracted years.

There was probably a bit of miscommunication. They told him to "be in shape for basketball," but he came back in the shape of a basketball.

[GSH]

The worst part of threads like this and the forum in general are the endless line of followers who can't stop themselves from desperately seeking out peer approval by blabbing on that the FO should add TP into an existing salary dump deal. Clearly this group can't tell the difference between the value in which a player actually has in relevance to the his salary, the existing roster and knowledge of the system and some ridiculous need to fit in on forum by ting on the flavor of the month.

I agree that he's declined over the last few years but he's still a great value with his current contract. He can't be replaced by any realistic better option even if the team sought out additional salary dumps. There's no good argument for this without a viable solution to fill the hole. Shedding Diaw in a dump only makes sense now that a better option has been obtained. This isn't the case with Parker. Its stupidity and why this forum is rarely taken seriously by outsiders and quality posters who have simply given up on this place.

They don't understand the salary cap, and the fact that the teams who would take Parker have to cope with the cap just like the Spurs do. They can't just take on unlimited salary to get the Spurs out of a jam.

But you don't seem to understand that if the goal is to win it all, you can't necessarily look at that cost/value comparison. If your starting PG isn't good enough to take you all the way, he's not a bargain, no matter how little he's making. Having a starting PG who is a "great value" is only meaningful if he's still got the stuff to get the Spurs through the Finals. I don't hate him, and I'm not saying he doesn't still have value. But I'm seriously doubting his ability to move the offense against the better teams in the league. I don't see any alternative at this point, but you can't be too shocked that people are discussing him as possibly the weakest link in the starting five, and wishing we had an upgrade.

[GSH]

Oh, and all this bull about not taking care of Boris? SA is a small market team that frequently has to ask players to come here at a discount. You won't get many quality players to come here if you get a reputation of pissing on them. The Spurs' reputation for taking care of players in situations like this, or even after they get injured carries a lot of weight when guys are considering SA as a destination.

The Spurs are going to do their level best to get Boris into a situation that he likes. As they should.

[Vic Petro]

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[DenialTwist]

I swear. If Diaw ends up on the Warriors...it will suck even more.
They better get a good return on a trade for Diaw.

[Brazil]

If Bobo is traded for a team coached by a dumbass he will go charlotte on them... Best scenario for him is to be traded for a Pop sphere of influence coach.

BTW he would be a great fit with GSW

[San Antonio Slayer]

GSW, Miami, Dallas, Atlanta...our bench will suck next season(((

[BacktoBasics]

They don't understand the salary cap, and the fact that the teams who would take Parker have to cope with the cap just like the Spurs do. They can't just take on unlimited salary to get the Spurs out of a jam.

But you don't seem to understand that if the goal is to win it all, you can't necessarily look at that cost/value comparison. If your starting PG isn't good enough to take you all the way, he's not a bargain, no matter how little he's making. Having a starting PG who is a "great value" is only meaningful if he's still got the stuff to get the Spurs through the Finals. I don't hate him, and I'm not saying he doesn't still have value. But I'm seriously doubting his ability to move the offense against the better teams in the league. I don't see any alternative at this point, but you can't be too shocked that people are discussing him as possibly the weakest link in the starting five, and wishing we had an upgrade.

All valid points. But the value is largely due to the bolded statement above. As of now there isn't a better option. Regardless of whether or not he capable of leading the team....he's the best option, right now, today.

Its not a matter of being "shocked" that people are discussing it. It should be discussed and as time goes by its becoming a bigger and bigger issue. However very few here are actually "discussing" anything. Ripping TP is the new "TBH" here. They're not saying it to be insightful or provoke a quality discussion. Its the trendy thing to say and 90% of these people are only saying it because someone that they want validation from is saying it...so they all pile on because these needy morons crave approval and desperately want to be a part of the current circle jerk.

[BSfromTX]

Tough to lose Diaw for sure, but only for holding out hope that he returns to '14 form. Cant afford to have '15-16 Diaw

[ceperez]

You know, Diaw would have been effective against the Dubs. But against OKC, he was too small to bully his way.

Spurs however by signing Gasol and Duncan retiring don't have a lot of players up front. Word is also out that Spurs will also have to let go of Boban.

[MaNu4Tres]

How crazy is it that after 2 and a half years after the 2014 le run, the Spurs won't have any of the front-court players from the 2014 le team.

[sasaint]

GSW, Miami, Dallas, Atlanta...our bench will suck next season(((

Our bench was TURRIBLE last season. The thought that it may not be that good is very discouraging.

[loveforthegame]

I'm proud of Diaw. He was actually motivated enough to give the Spurs a list of teams he'd like to be traded to. That's more than we saw from him last season.

[sasaint]

I'm proud of Diaw. He was actually motivated enough to give the Spurs a list of teams he'd like to be traded to. That's more than we saw from him last season.

[Uriel]

How crazy is it that after 2 and a half years after the 2014 le run, the Spurs won't have any of the front-court players from the 2014 le team.

[TheGoldStandard]

The savior

[gambit1990]

$7 million is not a lot to pay for boris considering the contracts that were handed out this summer. his contract is expiring too.

i wonder when there will be news...

does pau + duncan mean no boris & boban?

or does just pau mean no boris & boban?

[Steve-O-Matic]

I'll be disappointed if the Spurs don't get some level of small but meaningful asset in return......i.e. something more than a top-58-protected 2nd round pick in 2025. Diaw's contract is well in line with his level of production and what he adds to a team, relative to the absurd numbers that free agents are getting now under the new cap. Simply put, Garrett Temple just signed a contract which will pay him more than what Diaw will make. Think about that. Furthermore, Diaw's $7.5M salary the season after next is fully non-guaranteed, which makes it an invaluable trade chip next summer for whichever team owns it.

[SpursforSix]

I'll be disappointed if the Spurs don't get some level of small but meaningful asset in return......i.e. something more than a top-58-protected 2nd round pick in 2025. Diaw's contract is well in line with his level of production and what he adds to a team, relative to the absurd numbers that free agents are getting now under the new cap. Simply put, Garrett Temple just signed a contract which will pay him more than what Diaw will make. Think about that. Furthermore, Diaw's $7.5M salary the season after next is fully non-guaranteed, which makes it an invaluable trade chip next summer for whichever team owns it.

I agree. He's worth more than a throwaway. Some team will perceive that he's got something left and can help immediately.

[baseline bum]

How crazy is it that after 2 and a half years after the 2014 le run, the Spurs won't have any of the front-court players from the 2014 le team.

They'll have Kawhi and Bonner

[Hoops Czar]

And posters thought Boris had trade value. They can't give this away.

[Obstructed_View]

People keep talking about the Spurs getting a pick for him. I'm still worried that they'll have to give a pick to get rid of him and make room for Pau.

Yeah, Golden State made it shockingly easy to get rid of a player for a conditional second rounder. My guess is that everyone knows Diaw's going to get fat wherever he goes, so they don't want to take on his salary.

[Hoops Czar]

People keep talking about the Spurs getting a pick for him. I'm still worried that they'll have to give a pick to get rid of him and make room for Pau.

Yeah, top 55 protected.