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    Fair enough and I do believe you are not hating. Kyle will always be too slow for your eye test. The issue is can he play? And the question is in the NBA, not here. He dominated here when he was younger and skinnier already. I didn't think being in Summer League would answer that question or that it would help him much TBH. The only purpose I saw in this was to get him repe ion and experience as a 4. He has more work to do, but he was guarding (attached basically) to Lyles in the perimeter once he got hot. He wasn't in the paint to grab boards as much.

    Simms I think has improved a lot over the course of 2 years too. I had seen him in the dleague a lot and the only thing that stood out was the athleticism. He didn't handle the ball as much, he played mostly off the ball and his on the ball play turned into TO quickly. Still does, but he's improved. He has improved his PnR reads too. The question with him is how much more he can continue to improve. Playing off the ball in the big team he won't be doing as much as here. Maybe Summer League doesn't answer many questions concerning him either bc the role he has here is not the one he figures to have with the big team.

    Let's wait to see Murray too. I have low expectations for him, so I won't be disappointed. He's still very young. There are a lot of other young players joining us in Vegas to be excited about.
    You think that PATFO wants Simmons to be an off-the-ball player in SA? But it was his court vision and passing skill (in addition to his athleticism) that gained attention and praise to begin with. Doesn't that imply playing with the ball more than not? Tbh, I am having a harder and harder time envisioning what his niche is. Even though I once thought he was a near lock for Spurs TNG, I am starting to have doubts. In order to have a spot in the rotation and help the team, he will have to have a much better 3-point shot and be much more willing to take it than he continues to show - if his niche is off the ball.

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    I had tix to go see it. However, after seeing no Bertans and no Murray, that . I don't wanna waste my time watching the slow Fat Head crawl up the court for 2 hours.
    You'd have liked his jump shot. Looks a lot better.

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    That's exactly what I'm saying. It doesn't matter how much Pau "wants to play". Pop is going to rest him, and hopefully we'll have guys like Boban back that can give us something off the bench, especially if Boris is gone.
    How in the is averaging 30 minutes for 77 games resting for a 36 year old center? (While playing for a team fighting for its playoff lives, Dirk at 36 averaged 29.6 minutes & played 77 games without having to bang w/ centers)

    Main reason I was hoping to see some promising talent in these games, we don't have a lot of dough, as far as I understand, and some of these guys might end up being the filler that actually becomes our bench.
    All the bigs are ty & the perimeter players make Kyle/Simmons seem like Lebron/Wade.

    Jarnell Stokes is a talented big who isn't in the league b/c he's undersized & an average athlete but he can eat regular season minutes like Blair. Hopefully, PATFO pick him up after they dump Diaw.

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    You'd have liked his jump shot. Looks a lot better.
    A fair chunk of ST is going to have to eat crow as KA develops into a solid player.

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    Anybody know what the ing holdup is on Dejounte's contract? I'd really like to see him play.

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    A fair chunk of ST is going to have to eat crow as KA develops into a solid player.
    No they won't. They'll do the same thing they did with Cory Joseph: on him until he leaves and then say how stupid the Spurs are for letting him go.

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    Come on... she had a stroke obviously. Not a laughing matter
    No, she had a migraine and that was the outcome. She was fine afterwards.

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    Anybody know what the ing holdup is on Dejounte's contract? I'd really like to see him play.
    The Spurs save about $200k by signing him after using their cap space, and Rich Paul won't let him play without a signed contract because he's an asshole.

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    Damn I need to change my avatar..
    Yes, change it! Put Pau in there!

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    No they won't. They'll do the same thing they did with Cory Joseph: on him until he leaves and then say how stupid the Spurs are for letting him go.
    Sad but true.

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    The Spurs save about $200k by signing him after using their cap space, and Rich Paul won't let him play without a signed contract because he's an asshole.
    Why does that make him an asshole? If he played without a contract and then got injured, he'd be ed right?

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    Why does that make him an asshole? If he played without a contract and then got injured, he'd be ed right?
    I don't think so. First round picks have set salaries, right?

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    Why does that make him an asshole? If he played without a contract and then got injured, he'd be ed right?
    No. Teams don't screw over their guys that way, especially for how cheap they are.

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    How in the is averaging 30 minutes for 77 games resting for a 36 year old center? (While playing for a team fighting for its playoff lives, Dirk at 36 averaged 29.6 minutes & played 77 games without having to bang w/ centers)
    Pau averaged nearly 35mpg a season ago (34 years old). And how about LMA? averaging 30mpg at 29 years old. Pop is just going to rest guys, sometimes he won't even play them for an entire game. That's all great when you a top bench in the league, but right now we're not looking all that pretty in that department. Obviously, the fact that 90% of the league sucks will help, but you just can't take that for granted.

    All the bigs are ty & the perimeter players make Kyle/Simmons seem like Lebron/Wade.

    Jarnell Stokes is a talented big who isn't in the league b/c he's undersized & an average athlete but he can eat regular season minutes like Blair. Hopefully, PATFO pick him up after they dump Diaw.

    That's what I'm saying, PATFO better start looking around, because there doesn't seem to be a lot of keepers here (albeit, there's some guys still to watch).

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    I don't think so. First round picks have set salaries, right?
    I don't know. So there are no negotiations?

    Even so, if he hasn't signed a contract, I suppose they could still leave him hanging. Not that the Spurs would do that. But an agent is supposed to protect his players best interest.

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    No. Teams don't screw over their guys that way, especially for how cheap they are.
    I think if a team tried to do that they'd get smashed by both the league and the players union.

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    A fair chunk of ST is going to have to eat crow as KA develops into a solid player.
    I hope so. I think it's the right time for him to confirm he's an NBA-caliber talent. Otherwise, the Spurs should just move on to another experiment.

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    Pau averaged nearly 35mpg a season ago (34 years old). And how about LMA? averaging 30mpg at 29 years old.
    You best bet LMA is going to be playing at least 33 minutes this season.

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    I hope so. I think it's the right time for him to confirm he's an NBA-caliber talent. Otherwise, the Spurs should just move on to another experiment.
    Without Diaw, he's going to get as many touches as he wants. This is a lost season so might as well develop Kyle/Murray.

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    I don't know. So there are no negotiations?
    Well clearly his agent knows more about it than I do. I guess if there were no risk there'd be no reason to hold him back. I'm just super biased because summer league is my time, and I want to see him ing play.

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    Well clearly his agent knows more about it than I do. I guess if there were no risk there'd be no reason to hold him back. I'm just super biased because summer league is my time, and I want to see him ing play.
    Same. I'm dying to see what he's got.

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    You think that PATFO wants Simmons to be an off-the-ball player in SA? But it was his court vision and passing skill (in addition to his athleticism) that gained attention and praise to begin with. Doesn't that imply playing with the ball more than not? Tbh, I am having a harder and harder time envisioning what his niche is. Even though I once thought he was a near lock for Spurs TNG, I am starting to have doubts. In order to have a spot in the rotation and help the team, he will have to have a much better 3-point shot and be much more willing to take it than he continues to show - if his niche is off the ball.
    I don't know what to tell you. I never saw him the way you saw him becasue I had seen a lot of him from before and I knew his ballhandling wasn't up to par to be a quasi PG. He played as a SF in the dleague off the ball. They started towards the end of his last season there to give him the ball and he was a TO machine. Literally ball pressure? equalled TO. He has improved. Believe you me, he was worse. But I thought last season and still think he was running out of time to improve that sufficiently to be the main ballhandler bc he's old. The offense if you saw it features a lot of cutting and PnR. I think Simmons will get handled the ball to run a PnR here or there, but he won't be a quasi PG.

    The leader of that unit, if he ever achieves his potential is Anderson. I know ppl don't see it like I saw it... but Kyle has been punking fools at this rate for all his young career. You see him slow and you think he can't play then bam! First he's won the game, second you look at his stats and where is this stud? He was played off others and not ideally last season. I have been saying this before but ppl are tired of me at this point so whatever.

    I think Simmons benefits from cuts off the ball out of post up players who can pass to him. We saw a lot of plays like this in the RS with Kawhi and even LMA. We saw Kyle and Andre Mille throw lobs to him. He's a monster in transition and in the open court. He has game. It's just not the Manu game. He can pass the basketball within the offense. But between me and you, Pop praised him a lot bc Simmons had major confidence issues.

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    Thanks for posting.

    KA's stroke looks different (better) with a quicker release. That last 3 looked Kawhi-esque. Chip's been doing work.

    Simmons looked the same as last SL.

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    Yeah thanks for this. Was wanting to watch the game. Is there somewhere other than NBA-TV where we can watch?

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