To go to another contender? Cleveland was NOT a contender. Until he went there. Durant joined a team close to repeating without him, the same one who just beat him. WEAK
He left a declining team to go to what was then the most dysfunctional franchise in sports. It's still not comparable to the move Durant just pulled. In fact, the only thing that is comparable is what Kobe pulled on Draft Day 1996.
What son? I don't think you got my point, tbh.
Pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly. I've lost so much respect for Durant...
It may not be unique, but it's still a weak move. The guy signed with a team that beat him, and it's not like he "didn't have help" or anything like that. Kevin Durant was a few made shots away from a Finals berth, but he choked it away. He, more than anyone else on that Thunder team besides maybe Westbrook, was responsible for that collapse in the WCF. To then turn around and sign with a team that already won a le without you and has made b2b Finals appearances without you is just beyond pathetic.
Btw, Malone and Payton left their teams during the twilight of their careers, so the comparison isn't appropriate.
...I'll just bet you have.
& after Media spent the last fort night warning him & "us" not to do it,,,he did it anyway.
Just shows ta go ya.
Not really. Because the three of them colluding would have made a clear cut championship favourite. Which is the equivalent of joining a ready made favourite.
Malone and Payton twilights came because they joined the lakers. Both of them were 20/8/4 or so players the year before. It's just revisionist history that they were done when they joined, they weren't. Sure it wasn't the peak of their prime bit they were still all star players the year before they joined the lakers. Sort of like when shaq joined the heat.
And Durant joining a contender is the same as Lebron joining a contender through collusion. In fact, the collusion itself is against the rules which arguably made it worse.
Not really. Making a new team from scratch by teaming up with other stars isn't the same as joining an already established championship team which you were a few baskets made away from beating just a month ago. Every logical person that isn't influenced by some kind of agenda can see these differences.
It wasn't the same as in the same, because you just wrote out the differences, but in concept, it's just people front running.
I am not sure what type of agenda I can possibly be having, it's not like I am a Durant or State fan.
Seriously?
how many seasons did Malone play AFTER he joined the Lakers?
How many times did GP or Malone finish 2nd in MVP voting the year before or after they joined the lakers like shaq dad with the Heat?!
I agree with your premise but your arguments to support it especially with those Lakers is full of and just untrue.
Neither guy even made a all-star game at that point in their careers and the starters are voted on by fans.
Comparing them to Shaq is an exaggeration or you are being dishonest to try and prove your point.
Zero, he contacted cancer.
Why 2nd? Payton was an all star player the year before. Malone was a all-star caliber player and would have made it if not for the ridiculous talent at the PF position (Duncan, Webber, Garnett, Dirk)
And no, I am not talking about the same exact scenario, I am talking about front-running stars ring chasing.
Shaq finished 2nd in MVP voting the first year in miami because everybody sucked, it wasn't because he was good, but it's the same basic premise, that the Lakers started this front running trend.
Why 2nd because that is where Shaq was otherwise why would i make the point?
again, I agree that it has been done before including by the Lakers but you were exaggerating and I called you out for it.
But earlier you tried to say it was Kobe that called for it when it was shaq.
In fact, GP followed O'neal to miami.
SO I am just keeping you honest.
Kobe couldnt recruit anyone after the "snitch" ... Artest just dgaf ...and I love him for that.
Thats not even the issue, the thing I fear the most its now GS is gonna have two big mommas, defending their loser boys everywhere.
The SAS meltdown on FB/Periscope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BigbhYkVVow
Called me out for what? That karl Malone and Gary Payton to the Lakers wasn't exactly the same as Shaq to Miami? Oh dear God, there are other differences too! Neither of them were centers, neither of them are top 10 players of all time, but then again, you miss the entire point, which was Malone and Payton joined the Lakers as stars, just like Shaq to Miami was.
As for Kobe begging, he has a history, he begged the cops, he begged the media, he begged Nessa, he begged for Kidd (didn't get it), he begged for attention. Shaq was the front, he was the cheese.
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