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    And the idiot echo chamber is visited by the head idiot.
    Did you even analyze what I responded or are you just going to go the emo route?

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    That type of point guard is now a rarity. They're either unavailable (i.e. Chris Paul) or too old (i.e. Andre Miller).
    I wasn't a big fan of George Hill, but when he plays point today, he plays kinda like that. I know a lot of people here would prefer a penetrating guard, but I don't think it would work well with LMA/Kawhi's forte, which are the postups. And in order for the postups to work, you need shooters. On the other hand, that kind of offense gets predictable fast too. I hope to see more variety this season on that end, perhaps some P&R for Gasol, Kawhi off-screen jumpers, etc.

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    Spurs definitely need a back up pg....

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    Did you even analyze what I responded or are you just going to go the emo route?
    Well, you followed up your hyperbole-laced post with an assertion that 15 million a year is "all-star money" (Parker 40th highest salary last year) and that Tony Parker is a "below average player" (16.2 PER last year). Then you later said that the Spurs need a "big time scorer" rather than people to play defense and distribute the ball. Frankly, when you say something that isn't either completely provably incorrect or outright re ed then I might be ready to analyze it.

    If your agenda is just to bag on Tony Parker, start with something true, like that he's been a huge disappointment in the playoffs the last three years, and you might get some agreement. I'm fully on board the, "Parker needs to transform to a pass-first guard" train. Plenty of room.

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    Paul can actually hit his jumper consistently

    Exactly. Not the flail out of control into the paint, fall down, whine about no call, and give up two on the other end.

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    Spurs definitely need a pg....

    Fixed it for you.

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    Spurs guaranteed to win 2nd seed in the western conference.

    Spurs were just unfortunate with OKC, but now with OKC without Durant, Spurs will have a crack at the newly improved GSW.

    Which means, if GSW has one injured player among their 4, Spurs reach the finals!

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    Gasol - He'll average like 15/10 and provide some nice passes, decent defense and be useful.
    Aldridge - 18/8 will look at lot better early on in the system, Gasol will help him a lot since he doesn't have to shift to center.
    Kawhi - Hopefully he goes god mode this next season and gets into Prime years talk 25/8 and still be a monster on defense
    Green - er just needs to hit shots consistently, don't expect him to learn how to dribble or how to lay the ball up. Might have a regressed year defensively. Avg 13 a game.
    Parker - Ugh... defensive liability.. will get burned a lot.. 4/12 shooting will be a good night. 6 to 7 assist games will be the one upside. If only they counted rebounding bricks as assists would get average double figures.
    Wow, 4/12 will be a good night even though Parker hasn't shot less than 48% from the field the last 12 years. Maybe math isn't you guys' strong suit? Not sure.

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    Spurs guaranteed to win 2nd seed in the western conference.

    Spurs were just unfortunate with OKC, but now with OKC without Durant, Spurs will have a crack at the newly improved GSW.

    Which means, if GSW has one injured player among their 4, Spurs reach the finals!
    This is my thinking. I would be surprised if we don't reach the Finals at least once in the next 3 years and (probably get a ring when we do). Though there will be some lumps in years we don't.

    People criticizing the Pau signing should realize how much we'd fall if we didn't get him AND Duncan retired. Sometimes a good offseason is minimizing your losses. Ask OKC.

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    Mills needs to start a significant percentage of games. We need to at least start a realistic transition to the fact that Parker is a role player. Dude's f'ing jacking up all those shots in the final two minutes of Game 5 vs OKC? WTF.

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    This is my thinking. I would be surprised if we don't reach the Finals at least once in the next 3 years and (probably get a ring when we do). Though there will be some lumps in years we don't.

    People criticizing the Pau signing should realize how much we'd fall if we didn't get him AND Duncan retired. Sometimes a good offseason is minimizing your losses. Ask OKC.
    It really depends on how reliable KL and Aldridge can become among other factors. We know they can carry the load for a game. It remains to be seen that they can do it for a series against an elite squad.

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    Mills needs to start a significant percentage of games. We need to at least start a realistic transition to the fact that Parker is a role player. Dude's f'ing jacking up all those shots in the final two minutes of Game 5 vs OKC? WTF.
    If Mills starts instead of Parker, who plays the PG?

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    Kyle can take us to the summer league repeat
    I mean, I legitimately want that to happen more than almost anything else Spurs related.

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    It's not even about the money anymore it's about fit within what the Spurs have to do to make Kawhi the guy.. I'd much prefer Parker off the team for the teams sake rather than Parker going to the bench.. It's not Parker's fault but Pop will not want to suffer through growing pains of a rookie PG or even another PG coming in and having to learn what they do.. Ultimately Parker will be back in the lineup that features Kawhi and no matter what he does to transition into a better 3 point shooter and consistent jump shot maker he's still going to be a negative on the defensive end.

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    Still, Parker can't play against GS. Manu or Kyle might have to start imo.
    Not start but play heavy minutes at guard Anderson could be a big factor is a series, he needs to become a decent shooter from 3, so does Simmons in order to make them viable against the Worriers

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    The SL looks solid but it's tough to see how good they'll be with a 300lb anchor starting at PG tbh.

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    It's not even about the money anymore it's about fit within what the Spurs have to do to make Kawhi the guy.. I'd much prefer Parker off the team for the teams sake rather than Parker going to the bench.. It's not Parker's fault but Pop will not want to suffer through growing pains of a rookie PG or even another PG coming in and having to learn what they do.. Ultimately Parker will be back in the lineup that features Kawhi and no matter what he does to transition into a better 3 point shooter and consistent jump shot maker he's still going to be a negative on the defensive end.
    I literally disagree with your entire post.

    -Parker isn't the reason Kawhi disappears at the end of games and in the playoffs. He gives him the ball far more than anyone else on the team.

    -We have time to draft a rookie true PG and work him in behind Parker. Why PATFO hasn't done that in the last few years probably tells you they believe Parker still has a couple more good years in him...unlike the ST cliffjumpers who said Parker was done in 2014 right after he led us to another le as the only All-Star, All-NBA player and leading scorer throughout the RS, playoffs, and Finals (and led in assists throughout the RS & playoffs like always).

    -Better 3 point shooter? He shot 42% last year and 43% the year before (leading the entire league for the first half of the season). What do you want? Him to shoot 60% from 3?

    ...oh and funny how it's not about the money anymore. Is that because Mike Conley just got paid more than twice of what Parker will ever make, proving the fact that Parker has always been (and now especially is) a frieking bargain!

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    Pros - Pau can shoot well out to about 17 feet which should provide some extra spacing, he's a decent rebounder (though not as good as the numbers suggest) and a decent interior defender. Great passing too

    Cons - While I would say PnR defense, it's not like Pau can be any worse than Timmy was this year in those scenarios so I won't say that. However, we get a little worse rebounding and interior defense.

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    Mills needs to start a significant percentage of games. We need to at least start a realistic transition to the fact that Parker is a role player. Dude's f'ing jacking up all those shots in the final two minutes of Game 5 vs OKC? WTF.
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    no, I for one would prefer cutting Mills than losing Bobo. Bobo when inspired, which admittantly isn't often, is a matchup nightmare. To me Patty hasn't been the same since we won 5. If we need to clear space for Pau Patty would be the one I cut, and try to find a better replacement off the street until the rookie is ready.

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    If Mills starts instead of Parker, who plays the PG?
    Mills, obviously.

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    no, I for one would prefer cutting Mills than losing Bobo. Bobo when inspired, which admittantly isn't often, is a matchup nightmare. To me Patty hasn't been the same since we won 5. If we need to clear space for Pau Patty would be the one I cut, and try to find a better replacement off the street until the rookie is ready.
    And then we'd just be even weaker at the guard position. But assuming the $4 mil disparity in their contracts isn't too big an issue, I can see credence in your viewpoint. Though, I'd note the Spurs are openly shopping Diaw; and the writing is on the wall there. We'll quite likely be shipping Diaw and keeping Mills.

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    Spurs had the best record in franchise history last season with a brand new focal point on offense. We'll be fine this year. We don't need to worry about Golden State until we meet them in the playoffs. By then a lot of things can happen.

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    The starting 5 wasn't the problem in the playoffs, re s. It was that god awful bench led by a washed up Argie.

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    But, Mills is an undersized SG. He never played PG on offense, Manu did.

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    Spurs had the best record in franchise history last season with a brand new focal point on offense. We'll be fine this year. We don't need to worry about Golden State until we meet them in the playoffs. By then a lot of things can happen.
    Except, it's not good when you are briskly moving along and then get blown out of the water and made to look like a second rate team.

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