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    , I thought Porker's contract was up after next season.
    Nope. But even then, let's assume Pau fits great and opts in (I think that is unlikely, meaning if he fits well, he opts out for more money):

    SA has their SL (assuming TP isn't traded or stretched): TP/DG/Kawhi/LMA/Pau. We will see how that SL does this year and it has mega potential for the next 1-3 years.

    Maybe Murray shows up and TP moves to the bench, who knows. But SA has a bench of Kyle/Murray next year and possibly around 25-29M in cap space.

    If the SL looks fantastic and Pau opts in, then SA can spend that money on their bench. Being able to sign two 12-15M players on their bench can dramatically improve the bench/fill holes while having an awesome SL still.

    So SA, IMO, is in good shape no matter what.

    Best case is SA loves this SL this year of TP/DG/Kawhi/LMA/Gasol and that stays the same with set salaries.

    They add some youth this year to fill out the bench and 1 or 2 show very well. That eats into the cap for next year with whomever they sign but having a great SL plus:

    Murray/Kyle/Youth Guy this year (LJC maybe)/Youth Guy this year (Bertans maybe) + 12-15M player + 12-15M player is pretty awesome.

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    End of an era, tbh.

    I'm still excited to see what Pau brings, but the PATFO has some work to do because this team is starting to look like it's going to be vastly different from the one that won 67-games.
    The bench is. The SL is exactly the same except LMA more comfortable, an improvement over Tim talent wise in Pau (at this stage of their careers) & Kawhi with more responsibility.

    The bench is shaky, no doubt, but Patty/Kyle/Simmmons are there and at least not totally raw with experience. Let's see who else SA can get. The bench is what is changing, the SL is 80% the same and the 1 guy that is different is more talented.

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    2014 Thunder game 6 is probably my favorite Spurs game of all-time, and Diaw was arguably the best player on the floor that night..such an entertaining player to watch, too, so effortless and smooth
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    I'm not happy with this roster as of now No Diaw, No West, likely no Duncan,

    next season is going to be a rough.
    Yeah, although this was probably the best they could do.

    Still, being top heavy, when 3 of your top 6 are old and will be coming off of playing in the Olympics, is going to be an issue.

    In this market, it's damn near impossible to find half decent players for the minimum, with the exception of the Warriors and maybe Cavs. The Spurs can't even sell contention anymore.

    I know people don't want to hear this, but they may end up with a veteran or two like a Scola, who's basically just hanging on at this point and would probably love to come. The entire bench outside of Ginobili and Mills, can't be comprised of unproven, middling youth.


    Diaw was one of my favorites too, but I'd have prioritized Gasol over him too. Besides, he was an awkward fit with Anderson, who's probably guaranteed to play a bigger role next season.

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    Regardless, this move needed to be made. Bobo has coasted since 2014 (understandably so) and Pop was done with waiting for a resurgence.

    I just think that the Spurs could have eeked out a 1st rounder for him. He's on a terrific contract and is still a name in this league. I understand that it was to free up space for Pau, but honestly i'd rather they have not signed Pau and packaged Diaw/Timmy's contract for another solid, young player.....


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    See ya Bobo. One one my favorite Spurs in recent memory

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    Lol the last time we went into the season with an "underwhelming roster" we won the championship

    PATFO want basketball players, not players with "if's". I loved Diaw but it was time to go.

    Spurs can't do anything about the Duncan situation. They did their best getting the best free agent available that is closest to Duncan for a very good price

    IMO I believe the Spurs didn't even reach out to West who I liked last season. As some have mentioned it's not his fault Pop played him at Center the whole season. He is a POS now though and hope doesn't win in Oakland

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    Boris was good in our 2014 championship, got what he wanted and became lazy, I dont hate him but Im happy to see him go, I prefer to keep adding new pieces than struggle with lazy people, now please Red Rocket get the out of SA.

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    Enjoyed the good runs he out together. Definitely past his use. After the ring seems like he gradually lost interest in taking it serious again.

    This move also opens up Kyle to take over the point forward position in small ball. He put on weight, won't be surprised to see him running the 4 for small ball more often.

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    One half of Operation Post Up is now gone... You will be missed Diaw 2.0

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    Spurs should be fine next year - that is the great part of this deal being short term 1+1 deal. It's Pau's option next year, however, if he plays awful and it's not a good fit, he opts out. If he plays amazing and wants more money, he opts out. Only way it's an issue seemingly is if Pau gets injured badly and doesn't feel he can get a better deal.

    Plus with everyone next year coming off the books, even having Pau at 15M gives the Spurs likely 28-30M in cap space (if they renounce the cap holds for players who's contracts are up).

    Next year if Pau stays, SA would have:

    LMA: 21.5M
    Kawhi: 18.8M
    Pau: 15M
    TP: 15M
    DG: 10M
    Kyle: 2M

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    82M in salaries with a projected cap of 107-110M.

    Obviously this changes with whom SA signs this year and for how long, but that is the general math as we know it today.
    That's true. I also assumed the Spurs would sign other role players as well as the team is in desperate need for a back up wing and PF and those would have filled some cap space. I'm going to also assume Murray will be signed to a contract. Spurs should have some room to try for a max player. And I guess Pau's contract would be dump-able although I don't see the Spurs operating that way.

    At least the Spurs should be set up for 2018 free agency when both Pau and Parker's contract comes off the books.

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    One of my favorite Spurs and players but his reoccurring laziness was too much. Still, when Bobo was focused he was something else.
    Best of luck.

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    I would wish him good luck, but he's going to need more than that with det core...

    Thanks for the good times though.

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    Has anyone mentioned this may mean Tim is coming back?

    (Obviously, they have to lose a salary to sign Gasol -- could it be Diaw rather than Tim?)

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    For the record, I never hated Bobo.

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    Au revoir, mon negro. Thanks for the . Don't get fat.

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    End of an era, tbh.

    I'm still excited to see what Pau brings, but the PATFO has some work to do because this team is starting to look like it's going to be vastly different from the one that won 67-games.
    Huh? It looks practically the same with the exception that Pau replaces Duncan.

    The second unit? Still got Manu, Mills, Anderson, Simmons and likely Boban. Yeah, maybe we'll miss West and Diaw but Boban and Simmons did well last year.

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    I thought this photo I found was funny and maybe nice to share considering Boris legacy lives on.

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    Starting the transistion and being able to say they still will be a two or three seed. Rough times I tell ya....

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    Has anyone mentioned this may mean Tim is coming back?

    (Obviously, they have to lose a salary to sign Gasol -- could it be Diaw rather than Tim?)
    Right? Have Manu and Timmy come off the bench. ing do it!!! Im not ready for Duncan to retire!!!

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    Don't like this move at all.

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    Huh? It looks practically the same with the exception that Pau replaces Duncan.

    The second unit? Still got Manu, Mills, Anderson, Simmons and likely Boban. Yeah, maybe we'll miss West and Diaw but Boban and Simmons did well last year.
    I have not heard anything about Manu's returning. In fact all the speculation I see is that he is gone.

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    I hate that they traded Boris for nothing! WTH are they thinking! We have no bench! They better not keep Bonner!

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    I will miss Diaw. But it was his doing to force this deal. He even had a money incentive to stay in shape.

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