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    The only way Russ ends up in SA in a trade is if for some reason the higher ups are pissed at KD and would do anything possible to make sure KD doesn't ring in GS. I'm talking Dan Gilbert when LBJ left the Cavs type hate. Other than that there is no chance in Russ ends up in SA.
    Thats true, they aren't going to gift the opponent like the Spurs a Westbrook to build another super team. He will probably be traded to some team who doesn't have any shot at contending as they rebuild.

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    So Forbes is the spurs JJ Re

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    So Forbes is the spurs JJ Re
    I like what he is showing so far. Hopefully it's not because of the compe ion and he turns back into a pumpkin when he leaves Summer League.

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    You follow some random guy named jkemp or did someone you follow retweet him?
    Heard in the radio abt wht Austin Carr's son said so I tied to find sumthng on twitter. apparently there's sumthng on facebook but I dnt hav facebook.

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    Actually, they're quite likely to have cap space. This isn't like last season where they were fitting in salaries. The Diaw trade cleared quite a bit of cap space. How it gets used and how the room exception plays into that is what's up for debate right now. But Forbes' deal is small enough that it could get done. However, he likely got a two-year deal like Arcidiacono

    I thought almost all of Diaw's salary dump was needed to afford Gasol? And between Gasol and Manu, I thought we would specifically be in the position of fitting in salaries. That's why I was talking about a possible Disabled Player Exception for Duncan. I guess I missed something. Of course, that's not hard to do in this mess. Tim and Manu add a lot of variables right now.

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    I thought almost all of Diaw's salary dump was needed to afford Gasol? And between Gasol and Manu, I thought we would specifically be in the position of fitting in salaries. That's why I was talking about a possible Disabled Player Exception for Duncan. I guess I missed something. Of course, that's not hard to do in this mess. Tim and Manu add a lot of variables right now.
    Nope. Manu has a fixed cap hold, and Gasol's deal minus Diaw's contract - whatever happens with Duncan - whatever happens with Boban plus Bertan's deal leaves about $1.6 Million in pure cap space. As you may recall, I had been projecting it as belonging to Willie Reed or some other sixth big. But obviously, it doesn't have to, and it shouldn't, if Forbes is willing to sign a three-year deal.

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    They could get Porzingis for Westbrooks from Knicks or some of Boston`s assets, so I dont think that Parker + Green is the offer you call with.
    No team is going to trade franchise potential players for a player who has said no way he extends before free agency. You have the option of chasing him without losing anything in a year. Especially when the east and west have teams that are stacked at the top, and a one year rental doesn't do much for you. Those young guys will still be young next summer and even better. Better chance to get Westbrook on if you have a good team. Makes very little sense to burn assets on a one year rental, especially this year.

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    No team is going to trade franchise potential players for a player who has said no way he extends before free agency. You have the option of chasing him without losing anything in a year. Especially when the east and west have teams that are stacked at the top, and a one year rental doesn't do much for you. Those young guys will still be young next summer and even better. Better chance to get Westbrook on if you have a good team. Makes very little sense to burn assets on a one year rental, especially this year.
    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...land-cavaliers

    Yeah, it never happens. They dealt Wiggins for a much lesser player than Westbrook. Understood Wiggins may not be a franchise player, but could be an All Star at some point.

    If you have a way to get Westbrook on your team, you make that deal and ask questions later. Who cares about Rose?

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    i hope robinson will be okay with how little we'll be able to pay him...

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    i hope robinson will be okay with how little we'll be able to pay him...
    Should be enough if the Spurs don't pay Manure his money

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    i hope robinson will be okay with how little we'll be able to pay him...
    He's getting the same amount now as he's going to get from them.

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    Nope. Manu has a fixed cap hold, and Gasol's deal minus Diaw's contract - whatever happens with Duncan - whatever happens with Boban plus Bertan's deal leaves about $1.6 Million in pure cap space. As you may recall, I had been projecting it as belonging to Willie Reed or some other sixth big. But obviously, it doesn't have to, and it shouldn't, if Forbes is willing to sign a three-year deal.

    Yeah, there it is. I quit looking at Manu's hold in favor of what I think they're going to have to pay to sign him. Of course, I also didn't think they were going to get Bertans on a min contract. I'd still like to see Bourousis get a shot, and I don't think they will be able to sign him for the min, either. But you're right - there's cap space. I just don't think it's enough for them to make some of the moves I'd like to see them make.

    I was really hoping that they would have some chance at prying Moe Harkless loose from Portland. But even if they had more money to spend that doesn't seem very likely now. I guess it's not supposed to be easy.

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    I also didn't think they were going to get Bertans on a min contract.
    I don't believe he will get that. I'm projecting $5M/3, and that's reflected in the same table as the Reed salary slot.

    I'd still like to see Bourousis get a shot, and I don't think they will be able to sign him for the min, either.
    Well, I'd assume he'd get the room exception. However, if Manu takes that, then the team would essentially have an MLE deal to offer.

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    Gustavo Ayon is still available, I think he would be a better fit and also cheaper than Bourousis. Decent roll man and rebounder. He should be an option for a minimum deal.

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    Gustavo Ayon is still available, I think he would be a better fit and also cheaper than Bourousis. Decent roll man and rebounder. He should be an option for a minimum deal.
    The guy is the king in real madrid. Doubt he comes

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    The guy is the king in real madrid. Doubt he comes
    Never mind, looks he already signed a deal to stay there: http://www.eurohoops.net/featured/27...xt-three-years

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    Gustavo Ayon is still available, I think he would be a better fit and also cheaper than Bourousis. Decent roll man and rebounder. He should be an option for a minimum deal.
    In 2011 I was calling for the Spurs to sign him. He was available for peanuts, and I thought the Spurs would have really benefitted from having him on the bench. NO signed him instead. He was steady, but never the player I expected him to be. I didn't expect much offense, and I got that part right. But he didn't bring down the rebounds as well as I expected. He wound up on three teams in three years, and his salary never increased - which should tell you that his game didn't improve much, if any. There is always demand for a skilled big man.

    He's done well for Madrid, and that's why they just signed him to a new deal. As thin as the Spurs are in the middle, he wouldn't have been bad. But Bourosis has proven that he can play, and he's openly said that he is very interested in coming to the NBA, and to the Spurs specifically. I'm hoping they work out a deal.

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    In 2011 I was calling for the Spurs to sign him. He was available for peanuts, and I thought the Spurs would have really benefitted from having him on the bench. NO signed him instead. He was steady, but never the player I expected him to be. I didn't expect much offense, and I got that part right. But he didn't bring down the rebounds as well as I expected. He wound up on three teams in three years, and his salary never increased - which should tell you that his game didn't improve much, if any. There is always demand for a skilled big man.

    He's done well for Madrid, and that's why they just signed him to a new deal. As thin as the Spurs are in the middle, he wouldn't have been bad. But Bourosis has proven that he can play, and he's openly said that he is very interested in coming to the NBA, and to the Spurs specifically. I'm hoping they work out a deal.
    Dude was always injured iirc

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    He's done well for Madrid, and that's why they just signed him to a new deal. As thin as the Spurs are in the middle, he wouldn't have been bad. But Bourosis has proven that he can play, and he's openly said that he is very interested in coming to the NBA, and to the Spurs specifically. I'm hoping they work out a deal.
    I don't question his scoring ability, I just worry about his fit with the current roster. If the Spurs are going to pair him with KA as the bench bigs the defense is going to even worse than the Diaw-West combo.

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    Well one ancillary benifit to SA lacking big men is that young big men with a pulse should want to play for SA all else being equal.

    For the first time with Tim, Boris, West & Boban likely gone SA has legit rotation minutes for bids. If you want to show your stuff on a winning team and increase your value SA has to look appealing.

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    Well one ancillary benifit to SA lacking big men is that young big men with a pulse should want to play for SA all else being equal.

    For the first time with Tim, Boris, West & Boban likely gone SA has legit rotation minutes for bids. If you want to show your stuff on a winning team and increase your value SA has to look appealing.
    Maybe Spurs might be interested in http://www.nbadraft.net/players/damien-inglis 6'8" with 7'3" wingspan.

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    Dude was always injured iirc
    Yeah, he had injuries. But he started 20+ games with the... Pelicans (I still hate saying that), when he was healthy. He had some good games, but he had some really, really bad ones. Four teams in three years, and if I remember they were three one-year deals for the same amount. That's not a good sign for a big man. To be fair, I'm sure his injuries/durability had something to do with that.

    My point was that I don't dislike the Ayon. I was calling for the Spurs to sign him. But right now I would rather see Bourousis here. If the Spurs FO agrees, I'm sure we'll see him in silver and black because he wants to come. If I had to choose between Boban and Ayon as the third big, I'd probably take Ayon right now, not knowing how much Boban is going to improve. If Boban could develop the skills/knowledge to go with his size and shooting touch, he'd be a no-brainer to backup Gasol. If he doesn't, he's only playable in select situations.

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    Nene to Houston

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    In a steal deal!

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