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    All I did was watch the clip in the OP but first comparison that came to mind is Austin Rivers.

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    Okay, let's make this simple. Give me your lineups, because my math isn't working, so I'm forgetting someone. Even with Forbes, Murray and LJC on the roster I've still got two open spots. Figure there will be at least four random camp invites.

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    He's signing his contract ahead of tomorrow's game. It's not the team's choice to stash him. He's staying.
    I agree, he's staying... but he's not playing. He's a project, like Cojo. I will be surprised if he even sniffs the floor come regular season.

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    He's signing his contract ahead of tomorrow's game. It's not the team's choice to stash him. He's staying.
    Okay. Got it. And even if they both spend the year in Austin, both he and Forbes take up a roster spot. See my other reply because my count is off. You have at least two more guards than I do.

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    Okay, let's make this simple. Give me your lineups, because my math isn't working, so I'm forgetting someone. Even with Forbes, Murray and LJC on the roster I've still got two open spots. Figure there will be at least four random camp invites.
    I have several long posts with lineups in the off-season thread. I'm on my phone. But you're probably ignoring that there are almost no bigs on the roster now.

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    Okay, let's make this simple. Give me your lineups, because my math isn't working, so I'm forgetting someone. Even with Forbes, Murray and LJC on the roster I've still got two open spots. Figure there will be at least four random camp invites.
    One open spot left.

    Gasol / Marjanovic
    Aldridge / LJC
    Leonard / Anderson / Bertans
    Green / Ginobili / Simmons
    Parker / Mills / Murray / Forbes

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    Okay. Got it. And even if they both spend the year in Austin, both he and Forbes take up a roster spot. See my other reply because my count is off. You have at least two more guards than I do.
    Parker Green Mills Manu Murray Simmons. Then you have Forbes. That's seven. Kawhi Anderson Bertans LMA LJC Gasol and his backup. That's seven more. With only one full big at the four, they'll need another. Can't play small against everyone.

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    Parker Green Mills Manu Murray Simmons. Then you have Forbes. That's seven. Kawhi Anderson Bertans LMA LJC Gasol and his backup. That's seven more. With only one full big at the four, they'll need another. Can't play small against everyone.
    That's why Hanlan is likely not going to be in the team.

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    I have several long posts with lineups in the off-season thread. I'm on my phone. But you're probably ignoring that there are almost no bigs on the roster now.
    Well I wouldn't say that I'm ignoring it. Truthfully, it's finally starting to sink in that two roster spots are being used for rookies that aren't likely to contribute at all.

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    Well I wouldn't say that I'm ignoring it. Truthfully, it's finally starting to sink in that two roster spots are being used for rookies that aren't likely to contribute at all.
    That's better than having two vets who don't contribute at all.

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    That's better than having two vets who don't contribute at all.
    If the Spurs didn't have both at the same time, I might agree with you. The way they've been throwing contracts around, surely they're counting on Duncan retiring.

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    From what I've seen from Forbes, he is one of the more gifted shooters anywhere. Where I think he needs some additional PD is with uncovering to gain space in the NBA. Even though Tom Izzo's teams are perennially very physical, it's a whole new level of physicality in the NBA. So perpetual movement and uncovering will be important. He also needs to become a better ball-handler and decision-maker in the physically challenging NBA floor game.

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    Well I wouldn't say that I'm ignoring it. Truthfully, it's finally starting to sink in that two roster spots are being used for rookies that aren't likely to contribute at all.
    Two? There are four rookies being signed! Murray, LJC, Bertans, Forbes. I don't even think LJC is even ready to play in the NBA.

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    Two? There are four rookies being signed! Murray, LJC, Bertans, Forbes. I don't even think LJC is even ready to play in the NBA.
    Shall I say two with zero chance to contribute, and two more who at least have no excuse at this point. Clearly I'm still in denial about Bertans and LJC, hoping they're actually able to contribute. If the Spurs go into the season with four guys in Austin...

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    Shall I say two with zero chance to contribute, and two more who at least have no excuse at this point. Clearly I'm still in denial about Bertans and LJC, hoping they're actually able to contribute. If the Spurs go into the season with four guys in Austin...
    Add to that, two other players who were rookies just last year!!

    Now, if reality hasn't set in yet.... Anderson who is playing in Summer league... isn't included in the rookies and sop res. He's actually a senior statesman!!

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    Shall I say two with zero chance to contribute, and two more who at least have no excuse at this point. Clearly I'm still in denial about Bertans and LJC, hoping they're actually able to contribute. If the Spurs go into the season with four guys in Austin...
    Bertrans is likely to get the most minutes. Everything after that is speculation by I'd assume forbes gets the best most since pop has a place for no defense gunners in the offense already. I wouldn't be surprised if ljc got zero minutes outside of garbage time. He's just too raw. Same with Murray although again Murray could get he shock treatment of having to guard real nba players once our or twice

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    Bertrans is likely to get the most minutes. Everything after that is speculation by I'd assume forbes gets the best most since pop has a place for no defense gunners in the offense already. I wouldn't be surprised if ljc got zero minutes outside of garbage time. He's just too raw. Same with Murray although again Murray could get he shock treatment of having to guard real nba players once our or twice
    I agree. I will not be surprised if LJC and Murray are spending all their time in Austin.

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    Bertrans is likely to get the most minutes. Everything after that is speculation by I'd assume forbes gets the best most since pop has a place for no defense gunners in the offense already. I wouldn't be surprised if ljc got zero minutes outside of garbage time. He's just too raw. Same with Murray although again Murray could get he shock treatment of having to guard real nba players once our or twice
    I'm wondering how I was so optimistic about this team 12 hours ago. I'm gonna go find something to drink. :

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    I'm wondering how I was so optimistic about this team 12 hours ago. I'm gonna go find something to drink. :
    Pop may be forced into retirement after this season.

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    Add to that, two other players who were rookies just last year!!

    Now, if reality hasn't set in yet.... Anderson who is playing in Summer league... isn't included in the rookies and sop res. He's actually a senior statesman!!
    Kyle's jumper looks great, and he's added muscle and it hasn't seemed to slow him down. I thought he was going to be one of many bright spots, but I was expecting Hanlan and DeCosey to be competing for open spots on the roster. Again, not sure how I got that in my head.

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    I hate to say this, but Manu really needs to sign somewhere else and Tony Parker needs to be traded. It will be an outright disaster if Duncan decides to come back.

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    I hate to say this, but Manu really needs to sign somewhere else and Tony Parker needs to be traded. It will be an outright disaster if Duncan decides to come back.
    Ah so you did start drinking....It's really amazing but ignoring the warriors we still have tremendous talent. You can't really argue that the starting five isn't among the league's best with probably three all stars. That's insane! A legit three stars.

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    Pop may be forced into retirement after this season.
    Before the season might be better. Get a coach who has a desire to coach up young guys.

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    Ah so you did start drinking....It's really amazing but ignoring the warriors we still have tremendous talent. You can't really argue that the starting five isn't among the league's best with probably three all stars. That's insane! A legit three stars.
    I agree. Great front line. And the front line will fit Danny Green's game, so I expect a resurgence from him. The wild card is Parker. If he comes in committed to running the team and getting good shots for his teammates, the starting and finishing lineups will be amazing.

    That's a lot to count on from a guy who clearly doesn't seem to get that he isn't the same player he was five years ago. Then when you go to the bench there are so many question marks. It makes my head hurt, and I actually haven't been drinking. Though I probably should.

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    I hate to say this, but Manu really needs to sign somewhere else and Tony Parker needs to be traded. It will be an outright disaster if Duncan decides to come back.
    Nah, Manu would still be great to have assuming he's not out for a payday.

    Agreed that it'd be nice to trade Parker but 1) it's not happening, 2) I'm not even sure who the Spurs would go out and be able to get at this point to replace him. Would need to check the FA list, and 3) his contract isn't quite as bad with the cap rising the way it is (next year it'll be even better)

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