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    Making a couple of more millions?

    sigh.. just one percenter things.
    supposedly, he wants to be a part owner in the team when he retires in 2017.

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    It better happen sooner. Sure, the team can probably deal with signing Murray using cap space, but by the time he decides, it may be too late to use the room exception.
    Its not that dam hard to think about... Either his old ass wanna play or he dont! he could tell them he dont wanna play away gms in the regular season!

    I haven't been in the room (obviously) but by all accounts, Tim has been intimately involved in personnel decisions, for years - as he should have been. That's why it's so hard for me to believe that there isn't some purpose in this delay. They're trying to use his contract for a trade? Maybe he's agreed to come back, if they can't get some other deal done? I thought it was the possibility of a disabled player exception, but Chinook shot that down pretty hard. I just think that whatever is going on, he and the FO are in on it together. I don't think it's just a matter of him stringing out the decision, and leaving the team hanging in free agency. That just doesn't fit with how things have worked here for so long.

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    I haven't been in the room (obviously) but by all accounts, Tim has been intimately involved in personnel decisions, for years - as he should have been. That's why it's so hard for me to believe that there isn't some purpose in this delay. They're trying to use his contract for a trade? Maybe he's agreed to come back, if they can't get some other deal done? I thought it was the possibility of a disabled player exception, but Chinook shot that down pretty hard. I just think that whatever is going on, he and the FO are in on it together. I don't think it's just a matter of him stringing out the decision, and leaving the team hanging in free agency. That just doesn't fit with how things have worked here for so long.
    Generally I agree with you, but retirement could be a decision to make. There is a real possibility that Timmy is agonizing over this and the FO respects him enough not to push him. He's earned it, even if it is causing problems.

    Like you, I have no way of knowing. It's a Schrodinger's Cat state where Tim is simultaneously retired and un-retired.
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    Never a loss tougher for us, never a win more sweeter...Number 5 will always be the best.

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    I agree that it takes time to decide if you want to put your 40-year old body through the NBA grind (including getting ready to start the season). But as it appears to me, the Spurs can't move forward with other moves until they know Duncan's intentions.

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    Generally I agree with you, but retirement could be a decision to make. There is a real possibility that Timmy is agonizing over this and the FO respects him enough not to push him. He's earned it, even if it is causing problems.

    Like you, I have no way of knowing. It's a Schroeder's Cat state where Tim is simultaneously retired and un-retired.
    What's mystifying is that when Parker is put into Schrodinger's Box, both states are slow and can't pass.

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    Generally I agree with you, but retirement could be a decision to make. There is a real possibility that Timmy is agonizing over this and the FO respects him enough not to push him. He's earned it, even if it is causing problems.

    Like you, I have no way of knowing. It's a Schroeder's Cat state where Tim is simultaneously retired and un-retired.
    This. Really think the organization is just giving him space and are waiting like everyone else. With he and Pop's relationship he's probably the only one he's discussing this with,that's why we have zero indication.

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    He will be back for one more year.

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    Like you, I have no way of knowing. It's a Schroeder's Cat state where Tim is simultaneously retired and un-retired.

    LOL. First it's Lovecraft references, now quantum superposition. I'm pretty sure that not many people look at basketball the way you do.

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    What's mystifying is that when Parker is put into Schrodinger's Box, both states are slow and can't pass.
    Parker adheres to classical physics.

    This. Really think the organization is just giving him space and are waiting like everyone else. With he and Pop's relationship he's probably the only one he's discussing this with,that's why we have zero indication.
    Yeah. Though RC might be in on the talks. But it sounds like Manu is even genuinely clueless on the subject.

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    LOL. First it's Lovecraft references, now quantum superposition. I'm pretty sure that not many people look at basketball the way you do.
    Well, I never mastered a jump hook so you go with that you got.

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    supposedly, he wants to be a part owner in the team when he retires in 2017.
    Well at least he's got a date

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    Ramona S burn on ESPN just said Tim can take all the time he wants and the Spurs are in no hurry since Gasol has agreed to sign with the Spurs. So why all the hubbub here?

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    Ramona S burn on ESPN just said Tim can take all the time he wants and the Spurs are in no hurry since Gasol has agreed to sign with the Spurs. So why all the hubbub here?

    Well we keep saying it's because the Spurs are actively involved in free agency, and need to know where they are so they know who/how they can sign. But if that's not good enough for you, then because it's just damned inconvenient to people like us who want to know NOW.


    (BTW - you might as well know that you can post any damn stupid thing you want on this thread, and you're gonna have at least one reader. I keep clicking it EVERY time it comes to the top. I've got my black suit ready to start mourning and everything, in case Timmy announces his retirement. I keep trying it on, and if he doesn't tell us soon, it's going to be too wrinkled.)

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    LOL... so I answered a question that wasn't really a question.

    I really feel sorry for Lorbek right now. That poor bas really wants a chance to play, but he can't stay healthy. I think missing these early games due to injuries in warm-ups has already doomed him. He'll get a chance to play a few games, if he's up to it, but I don't think they will look at him seriously anymore. That's a shame for him.
    But way better for the Spurs to find out he is made of glass now.

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    But way better for the Spurs to find out he is made of glass now.
    Oh, for sure. I still feel badly for him, though. I'm not sure what 6'10" guys in Slovenia do to make a living, but I'm sure it would help to have a couple years of NBA salary as a nest egg.

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    Well we keep saying it's because the Spurs are actively involved in free agency, and need to know where they are so they know who/how they can sign. But if that's not good enough for you, then because it's just damned inconvenient to people like us who want to know NOW.

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    Generally I agree with you, but retirement could be a decision to make. There is a real possibility that Timmy is agonizing over this and the FO respects him enough not to push him. He's earned it, even if it is causing problems.

    Like you, I have no way of knowing. It's a Schrodinger's Cat state where Tim is simultaneously retired and un-retired.
    I think the above is a very reasonable take.
    This is more than allowing for NBA contract intricacies, this is about the end of a guy who has tried to help this franchise in so many ways. It's not like he's going Kobe on us and willfully delaying the rebuilding of a team.

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    I still laugh at all the people who think Tim is not a top 10 all time player and is just a product of Pop's system.

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    I still laugh at all the people who think Tim is not a top 10 all time player and is just a product of Pop's system.
    I've never seen, read or heard this before.

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    LOL. First it's Lovecraft references, now quantum superposition. I'm pretty sure that not many people look at basketball the way you do.
    Don't forget Groucho quotes

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    . It's not like he's going Kobe on us and willfully delaying the rebuilding of a team.
    Good point!

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    Don't forget Groucho quotes
    I missed that. That's a true Renaissance Man right there.

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    Is a retirement decision 'final'? I'm guessing someone can always choose to play again if they want (Like Ray Allen is looking at now, but he didn't officially retire) but is that decision made more difficult/complicated by 1. officially retiring, or 2. Spurs using the stretch provision on his contract? If either of those things happen can he even come back to the Spurs in Feb/Mar if he wanted another run, or would that only be possible with another team?

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