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    I don't think Murray plays winning ball. People ing all over him and ting on Simmons have short memories. I'm not giving up on Dejounte, obviously. But right now, he's a ball hog who can't defend to save his life.
    True, true, and true, but think that's why him being drafted by this organization will help change his culture. I know if he wants minutes he'll have to play defense with pop. But to start a career it was like a story book beginning.imo

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    I don't think Murray plays winning ball. People ing all over him and ting on Simmons have short memories. I'm not giving up on Dejounte, obviously. But right now, he's a ball hog who can't defend to save his life.
    He's a 19 year old kid who only has played 1 season of Div 1 basketball and hasn't played since the NIT. Obviously he was amped up. He made nothing turn into something during some plays. He's playing for the Spurs organization he will be fine atleast wait until the kid is old enough to drink until you judge him lol

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    so you're disappointed with his summer league debut?
    Chinook having to be a party pooper.

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    so you're disappointed with his summer league debut?
    Actually disappointed in STers for cheering the wrong things. I've never seen a more anti-Spur player on an SL team. Maybe Denmon that second go-around where he was so desperate to be noticed that he was a cancer. I'm glad that Murray was efficient in his attempts tonight, but we already know he's not normally that efficient. So you have to look at how he fits into a team context, and I'd say it didn't look good so far. You don't expect a rookie to come in and do everything right, obviously. But he's like the Bizarro Arcidiacono right now. Everything that Arc does right, Murray does wrong, and vice versa.

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    Maybe we should start west even when HE THE BED IN THE PLAYOFFS.

    I wonder who would even say that. ty posters who don't know basketball.

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    Outside of a couple jumpers, I thought he went with the flow and attacked the basket efficiently. Defense definitely needs work, I agree.
    This just in Coach Nick says "Dejounte Murray can be a Lock Down Defender as Good as Tony Parker."

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    I've been dubious about Murray in a very big way due to his on court red flags and analytics. And of course distraught and frustrated when my guy, who I am confident will make the league, was passed up.

    But hopefully the project Murray makes me wonder why I ever doubted.

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    He's a 19 year old kid who only has played 1 season of Div 1 basketball and hasn't played since the NIT. Obviously he was amped up. He made nothing turn into something during some plays. He's playing for the Spurs organization he will be fine atleast wait until the kid is old enough to drink until you judge him lol
    He's going the same route that Cojo took... straight to Austin this year and the next. So don't get too excited.

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    This just in Coach Nick says "Dejounte Murray can be a Lock Down Defender as Good as Tony Parker."
    He already got Tony beat tbh.

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    He's a 19 year old kid who only has played 1 season of Div 1 basketball and hasn't played since the NIT. Obviously he was amped up. He made nothing turn into something during some plays. He's playing for the Spurs organization he will be fine atleast wait until the kid is old enough to drink until you judge him lol
    Lol, if I were ing all over myself about him, you wouldn't care about me "judging him". I said nothing about writing him off. You can see a ton of talent there. But this wasn't the game people think it was. He isn't displacing anyone in the rotation based on performances like these.

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    Maybe we should start west even when HE THE BED IN THE PLAYOFFS.

    I wonder who would even say that. ty posters who don't know basketball.
    Eh, Duncan was just as bad tbh. I can see why you would want length on the bench when Kanter comes in...

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    I've seen some highlights of Murray's first game on twitter & I can already tell he's the best point guard on the squad

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    Maybe we should start west even when HE THE BED IN THE PLAYOFFS.

    I wonder who would even say that. ty posters who don't know basketball.

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    Actually disappointed in STers for cheering the wrong things. I've never seen a more anti-Spur player on an SL team. Maybe Denmon that second go-around where he was so desperate to be noticed that he was a cancer. I'm glad that Murray was efficient in his attempts tonight, but we already know he's not normally that efficient. So you have to look at how he fits into a team context, and I'd say it didn't look good so far. You don't expect a rookie to come in and do everything right, obviously. But he's like the Bizarro Arcidiacono right now. Everything that Arc does right, Murray does wrong, and vice versa.
    A point guard who can get to the rim. We've been after that since Tony lost a step. No idea about his court vision, and we know Chip will have to work on his shot, and Pop on his decision making. But the dude's 19. The talent is evident. No guarantees of course. But you're really disappointed with this debut?

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    Eh, Duncan was just as bad tbh. I can see why you would want length on the bench when Kanter comes in...
    Duncan was not as bad. What are you smoking dude. We came back with Duncan playing.

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    If he has the drive of Kawhi then he well be a star in 2 years tops.

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    Basically this. He'll be reigned in or sit on the bench. He has a park game. Obvious talent though
    I'm really surprised other people are ignoring it. The dude doesn't pass. I mean, I know we talking about Parker not passing. But seriously, Murray doesn't pass.

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    I don't think Murray plays winning ball. People ing all over him and ting on Simmons have short memories. I'm not giving up on Dejounte, obviously. But right now, he's a ball hog who can't defend to save his life.
    He had a few Great help defense possessions and played average defense all game. Theres no reason to pass it if you can walk a layup in. His size allows him to extend beyond his defenders reach.

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    Actually good learning experience for Murray on that 3 point foul. Perfect timing. He'll remember it, even though this game is meaningless. (Unless you care about SL les0>
    I care about the learning experiences that is why I wanted Anderson and Simmons to play up to Vegas and all. SL les are meaningless, but coaches won't forget bad play.. they will show it to you and motivate you to improve. It wasn't just the fouling by Murray at the end, he lost the guy for no reason, looking around to see what was happening, when he could have just stuck to his man to deniy the pass... just doesn't know how to play yet.

    If he's doing the same thing next season, then he's in trouble.

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    I don't think Murray plays winning ball. People ing all over him and ting on Simmons have short memories. I'm not giving up on Dejounte, obviously. But right now, he's a ball hog who can't defend to save his life.
    wtf

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    He already got Tony beat tbh.

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    I agree. Right now they are basically the same, except one will be 20 to start the season and the other 27. They both like to slash, might be risky defensively and risky with a TO too. But the rookie is bound to get better, the other will stay the same.
    That's exactly how I see them.

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    I'm really surprised other people are ignoring it. The dude doesn't pass. I mean, I know we talking about Parker not passing. But seriously, Murray doesn't pass.
    Did you want him running the offense when he just joined the team you stupid .

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    They wanted Simmons to play a lot of minutes in SL to see what he had learned and how his game has developed. As much as I'm pulling for the guy, he makes terrible decisions. Nobody who makes 9 TOs in a game against SL compe ion is really capable of playing big minutes in the NBA. That;s why his minutes dropped last season after the coaches got a read on him. Apparently he learned nothing. Still puttting his head down and trying to bull through. Sometimes it works and he does have an ability to finish--but his passing and handle are still subpar.

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    I care about the learning experiences that is why I wanted Anderson and Simmons to play up to Vegas and all. SL les are meaningless, but coaches won't forget bad play.. they will show it to you and motivate you to improve. It wasn't just the fouling by Murray at the end, he lost the guy for no reason, looking around to see what was happening, when he could have just stuck to his man to deniy the pass... just doesn't know how to play yet.

    If he's doing the same thing next season, then he's in trouble.
    True. And Pop (and as soon as Vegas, Becky) will let him know it.

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