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    I'm really surprised other people are ignoring it. The dude doesn't pass. I mean, I know we talking about Parker not passing. But seriously, Murray doesn't pass.
    He didn't pass - this game. The way it worked out, it wasn't really necessary. I will be watching that next game with acute interest. He is nowhere near NBA-ready after one game. But Tony wasn't a passer when he arrived, either. He isn't much of one now.

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    From what I can remember Murray wasn't the primary ball handler for many possessions, not to mention Simmons was getting all the plays called for him at the end lol. Hopefully Murray will be asked to run the offense a lot more in Vegas.
    run the offense?! Are you kidding me?

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    Hopefully he'll take the ball away from fat head in the 4th. Pretty sure he went 1/14 in the last two games.

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    If this kid is coachable and barring an catastrophic injury, he will be something special.......book it! I am really more worried about off the court stuff concerning 19 year old millionaires!

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    I just watched Fathead and Simmons hero ball every time they touched the rock tonight but Dejounte looked anti-Spur?

    Kid is 19yo, just signed his contract today, and balls out in his NBA debut and you expect more? He'll have plenty of time to learn the system when he's in Austin this upcoming season. Summer league isn't really the best place to judge bball IQ but he definitely passed the athleticism test from what I saw.

    And tbh if the "Spur" definition of PG play is to be foreign and unathletic, I'd want Murray to be as anti-Spur as possible....
    See, it's funny that people lol at guys like Crawford and Westbrook all the time for their shot-selection and then think it's great if Murray does it. I get that he's a rookie and will hopefully learn. But as I said, people have short memories. We just saw Simmons absolutely dominate two nights ago. Now that he had an off night, people are acting like it doesn't matter. But Murray isn't an efficient player. I'm glad he shot well today, but he'll likely have sub-40 games where he shoots just as often, and then people will notice and comment. But he won't be any different than he was tonight. Probability will just not be on his side then.

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    run the offense?! Are you kidding me?
    Anybody off the street can run basic sets, whether or not they can do it well is another thing.

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    Pop will help reign in that decision making.

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    That's pure speculation. What you were shown, says otherwise.
    Okay, let's just be clear: No. He's had other games besides this to see where he is currently. He has to develop. That's cool. Completely understandable. But don't act like he's a different player than he is just to try to strawman me.

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    He will break him down and build him back up if the kid allows; this is the BEST possible situation for him to maximize his talents!

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    He is nowhere near NBA-ready after one game.
    Yeah, but try telling that to the people in this thread who have said otherwise.

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    I do think he makes Simmons expendable because I considered Simmons a project anyways. One is going to be 20 and the other is 27.
    Simmons is significantly better right now, and he's currently slotted to be in the rotation between Manu and Anderson. He's not expendable unless they can get someone better to be the 10th man.

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    Anyone who was watching saw that the talent is there for Murray. That's what everyone is excited about. I know it was only one game but seeing him impose his will was impressive. I guess the haters wanted him to look like Isiah Thomas out there on his debut.

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    Tony Parker all he ever needed to do was drive. Not pass. Not shot the 3. Not shoot the jumper. Not defend. He just needed the drive.

    He doesn't have it.

    This kid has that. And very very young. I can live the mistakes as long as he gets better. I heard the same about Kawhi until he had a full arsenal.

    This kid will continue to improve and the posters will keep moving the goalpost.


    Honestly by far your best post

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    Honest and truly it might not be bad to take a look at Hanga....

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    See, it's funny that people lol at guys like Crawford and Westbrook all the time for their shot-selection and then think it's great if Murray does it. I get that he's a rookie and will hopefully learn. But as I said, people have short memories. We just saw Simmons absolutely dominate two nights ago. Now that he had an off night, people are acting like it doesn't matter. But Murray isn't an efficient player. I'm glad he shot well today, but he'll likely have sub-40 games where he shoots just as often, and then people will notice and comment. But he won't be any different than he was tonight. Probability will just not be on his side then.
    Are you coming around on Simmons?

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    Murray basically played his first game with a bunch of new people and you want to judge his overall game based off that? He's never practiced a spurs set in his life so let's wait to judge if he's a ball hog or not. He basically treated this game like an all star game by the looks of it.

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    Perhaps the staff has something to do with this. They could've said just go out there and play. But you could see the change in chemistry early on that had an effect on overall team play. I'm sure he'll be instructed to alter certain aspects of his game.
    Of course they just want to see where he is. And I think he flashed his talent. But he also showed his lack of intangibles. As I said, he's the Bizarro Arcidiacono. Ryan has it all ready to go upstairs, but he's just not built for the NBA. He makes everyone around him better, but he himself is not good enough. Murray has everything he needs below the neck to be a 10-year starter. But upstairs is all AU for him right now. Neither of them are rotation players at this point, but obviously Murray is a lot closer. We'll see how he adapts once Becky is his primary coach. She did a good job at making Simmons more focused during the SL last year.

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    Having a better defender with length may be a good thing at this point.....

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    Are you coming around on Simmons?
    I think people are being unfair to him. But I still want him to have to compete for his rotation spot.

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    Actually disappointed in STers for cheering the wrong things. I've never seen a more anti-Spur player on an SL team.
    Gary Neal was on the SL squad.

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    Murray is exciting to watch on the offensive end, showed brilliance of flashes with his speed/athleticism and finishing ability. You cant teach that, very exciting prospect for the spurs

    All other aspects of his game need A LOT of work, but again he is young, but i dont expect him to crack the rotation in the POs as many has already predicted here. His defense is poor, always on the wrong position, caught ball watching and not in a defensive stance. The key for him is obviously developing that jumpshot, but he is gonna be excellent in fast break etc...

    This dude has got a lot of learning to do, hopefully he gets some minutes and pop treats him like tp to accelerate his development, he's got a lot of learning to do to play the pg position

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    Murray basically played his first game with a bunch of new people and you want to judge his overall game based off that? He's never practiced a spurs set in his life so let's wait to judge if he's a ball hog or not. He basically treated this game like an all star game by the looks of it.
    People are acting like he wasn't a low-efficiency chucker in college, too. I think this whole, "It's one game" argument is ridiculous. I'm not the one projecting his future based on his performance tonight. The others are.

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    Murray will also benefit from being guarded by Kawhi and Danny on the perimeter. Spatial awareness will also come with time and reps.

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    I think people are being unfair to him. But I still want him to have to compete for his rotation spot.
    They're idiots. Simmons is a lock to make the roster imo

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