FBI Clinton investigation - Comey delivers statement

[Th'Pusher]

Why ask for the heading to be removed?

Because the original talking points were crafted and shared on a secure system even though they were not considered clasified.

Now answer my questions.

[TheSanityAnnex]

especially in light of the fact that Comey had access to the email and explicitly said that Clinton did not intentionally share classified information.

Were these just "unintentional" sharing of classified emails?

"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent"

[TheSanityAnnex]

Because the original talking points were crafted and shared on a secure system even though they were not considered clasified.

Now answer my questions.

And you know they were not classified how?

[Th'Pusher]

And you know they were not classified how?

I know that Comey had access to the information and explicitly said that Clinton did not intentionally share classified information.

What evidence do you have the the information sent was classified?

[Th'Pusher]

Were these just "unintentional" sharing of classified emails?

"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent"

nobody is denying that. She's an idiot. But, Comey also stated that she did not intentionally share classified information via the email server. What you're suggesting is that she did.

[TheSanityAnnex]

nobody is denying that. She's an idiot. But, Comey also stated that she did not intentionally share classified information via the email server. What you're suggesting is that she did.

How do you unintentionally send an email? Are you claiming she didn't know ANY of this was classified? That she completely forgot the NDA she signed her first day being sworn in? That she accidentally hit send? Are you saying she's the absolute stupidest person to ever been given access to top secret information?

[Th'Pusher]

How do you unintentionally send an email? Are you claiming she didn't know ANY of this was classified? That she completely forgot the NDA she signed her first day being sworn in? That she accidentally hit send? Are you saying she's the absolute stupidest person to ever been given access to top secret information?

Since you refuse to answer my questions, I'm going to assume you have absolutely no evidence that the talking points referenced in the email you posted three times as if we're some sort of a smoking gun were classified.

[Reck]

Irrelevant what the classified information was, she instructed him to scrub classification and send non secure. Stop dodging, did she not know this was wrong?

Did you watch Comey's hearing today? He explained this very same email.

Comey said Clinton told FBI agents that she was intending to instruct the aide to “make it into a non-classified do ent.” He said he believed Clinton asked for the header to be removed because it would have no longer been necessary, if the do ent were no longer classified.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...8bc_story.html

And read this..

We now know that the “very small number” Comey referenced was two, that neither email was sent by Hillary Clinton, and at Wednesday’s State Department daily briefing, we learned that the notations contained in both of the emails in question were the result of human error.

That’s why Comey couldn’t claim that the “very small number” of emails, which turned out to be the smallest possible number you could still use in the plural, were “marked classified,” because they weren’t. They bore incomplete markings, and those markings themselves were in error.


Update: In testimony before Congress today, FBI Director James Comey confirmed the “portion markings,” and said he “thinks” there were three such emails that bore the incomplete designations:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/only-...h-were-errors/

[Th'Pusher]

Just move on to another obsession TSA. This one is over and you've moved beyond looking ridiculous to the point where I feel embarrassed for you.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Since you refuse to answer my questions, I'm going to assume you have absolutely no evidence that the talking points referenced in the email you posted three times as if we're some sort of a smoking gun were classified.

I assume it was classified because if it wasn't classified they'd have no problem sending it over a non secure fax.

Your turn.

How do you unintentionally send an email? Are you claiming she didn't know ANY of this was classified? That she completely forgot the NDA she signed her first day being sworn in? That she accidentally hit send? Are you saying she's the absolute stupidest person to ever been given access to top secret information?

[Th'Pusher]

I assume it was classified because if it wasn't classified they'd have no problem sending it over a non secure fax.

Your turn.

How do you unintentionally send an email? Are you claiming she didn't know ANY of this was classified? That she completely forgot the NDA she signed her first day being sworn in? That she accidentally hit send? Are you saying she's the absolute stupidest person to ever been given access

Addrssed in Reck's post above with direct quotes from Comey.

Wrt your other ridiculous questions... No one said any emails were sent unintentionally. Comey indicated she was unaware emails she sent were classified. I have no reason to believe he lied. NDA is totally irrelevant. Nobody accidentally hit send. She is definitely not the stupidest person that has ever been granteted access to confidential information, but she is clearly technologically incompetent. That doesn't surprise me though, A lot of people her age are. She doesn't drive a car...

[TheSanityAnnex]

Addrssed in Reck's post above with direct quotes from Comey.

Wrt your other ridiculous questions... No one said any emails were sent unintentionally. Comey indicated she was unaware emails she sent were classified. I have no reason to believe he lied. NDA is totally irrelevant. Nobody accidentally hit send. She is definitely not the stupidest person that has ever been granteted access to confidential information, but she is clearly technologically incompetent. That doesn't surprise me though, A lot of people her age are. She doesn't drive a car...

NDA is totally irrelevant
And I see you are just using the "she's utterly incompetent" excuse. If she is truly this incompetent how is she fit for office and why would you vote for her?

[boutons_deux]

How many emails now considered classified? IIRC, only a 100+ or so, out of many 1000s.

Why are the Repugs not going after Colin Powell?

Why did Betraeus skate free after giving his buddy 8 binders of classified info?

You rightwingnuts are buying Repug witchhunt messaging and purely political, fabricated outrage, blowing a mole into a mountain.

It's all about taking Hillary down, not about competence, national security, emails, Benghazi, etc, etc, etc.

[RandomGuy]

It's like the police coming out and saying someone driving drunk shouldn't be prosecuted because they didn't intend to get drunk when they went out that night.

No actually it isn't. That a failed analogy, because intent is not part of drunk driving laws.

[RandomGuy]

While letting Trump have access to it.

Not that he will read any of it.

[RandomGuy]

I'm sure Hillary's housekeeper has intermingled trash and recycling and that Hillary probably didn't do anything to stop that.

Perhaps congressional republicans should look into that next.

OUTRAGE!!

I am sure they will demand a special prosecutor to investigate Trashgate.

[RandomGuy]

Are you claiming she didn't know scrubbing top secret classification and sending non secure was wrong?

.. a photobucket image?

Source before photobucket?

[CosmicCowboy]

No actually it isn't. That a failed analogy, because intent is not part of drunk driving laws.

Intent wasn't a requirement for violating national security laws either.

[boutons_deux]

Intent wasn't a requirement for violating national security laws either.

actually, it is, which I've heard from a couple legal types on TeeVee. Comey fingered through several conditions that were not met.

[CosmicCowboy]

actually, it is, which I've heard from a couple legal types on TeeVee. Comey fingered through several conditions that were not met.

According the statute negligence was enough. Comey said he couldn't find a precedent where the negligence clause was applied. Doesn't matter at this point. It's done.

Doesn't mean she isn't a lying .

[boutons_deux]

According the statute negligence was enough. Comey said he couldn't find a precedent where the negligence clause was applied. Doesn't matter at this point. It's done.

Doesn't mean she isn't a lying .

Thank <somebody>, Trash is an honest Boy Scout.

[CosmicCowboy]

Thank <somebody>, Trash is an honest Boy Scout.

Didn't say that. they both suck.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

According the statute negligence was enough. Comey said he couldn't find a precedent where the negligence clause was applied. Doesn't matter at this point. It's done.

Doesn't mean she isn't a lying .

Ahh youre a dumbass that thinks that 'extremely careless' being chosen for the language meets the standard for negligence. If he had seen negligence he would have said negligence. Word choice is more important than your wishful thinking towards semantics.

[CosmicCowboy]

Ahh youre a dumbass that thinks that 'extremely careless' being chosen for the language meets the standard for negligence. If he had seen negligence he would have said negligence. Word choice is more important than your wishful thinking towards semantics.

off Babyboo.

[rmt]

Can someone explain what is the use of Congress writing laws if they aren't going to be used. Comey's excuse that it's been used once in almost 100 years is not an excuse not to use it. Doesn't someone have to the the first, second, third, etc.? And how would they change the gross negligence statute to include no willful intent (it currently doesn't mention it). I just don't understand why he used willful intent to disqualify prosecution - after all if I speed, the cop doesn't care whether I intended to or not - I'm gonna get a ticket.

So sad about the police killings. Disappointed with Federer CHOKING - up 40-0, double faults twice probably his last chance at a GS.