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I don't get why you want to give up on Simmons...when he's shown just as much flash as Anderson in SL and you can argue even during the RS last year..
He's cheap knows the system and does things the Spurs roster truly lacks.
Slight sarcasm. Still don't think LJC is very good...
I don't get why you want to give up on Simmons...when he's shown just as much flash as Anderson in SL and you can argue even during the RS last year..
He's cheap knows the system and does things the Spurs roster truly lacks.
he is not good
People were using a good statline to project him as a rotation player. What he did wouldn't fit in a team context. That doesn't mean that his statline wasn't good this game.
He rebounds well for a guard. I think it's pointless to mention that, seeing as I've never said that nothing Murray does will translate. Driving is much dicier. He wasn't a good finisher in college, and I could see him struggling in the pros for years.You suggest his game was bad and wouldn't translate well. His rebounding and driving are the most likely to translate.
Not at all. Ignoring open teammates and chucking up shots is poor decision-making even if you make the shots. Anyone who breaks down offense will show you plenty of clips where their judgments are completely independent of the final result of the play.He had a very efficient game, which is the opposite of what bad decision making would be
Of course it did. Any guard who doesn't pass isn't going to get a good review, especially considering that he was like the fourth option on the floor. I'm glad he went gang busters, but that wasn't winning basketball. Don't get upset because I can separate made shots from good offense.That's fine, but it didn't come from this game. You had a bad review to a good game, then criticizized others for a good review of a good game. That's just silly.
Like that means anything. I've never accused you of thinking he's perfect. I am however accusing you of trying to change Murray's narrative. We already know he's a chucker. I don't have to wait for him to miss a bunch of shots to know that. He made the shots today, which is cool. But until he makes those shots that often consistently, I will not give him credit for ignoring his teammates.And no, I'm not pretending he is something he isn't. You literally quoted me saying he needs to distribute better.
Stop crushing.
I think it's either still up for debate or just stopped being up for debate whether Thomas is a winning player. I think if Murray can become a better shooter, then he can have a pretty good career as a sixth man. But he's not getting the 10th-man or especially the backup PG spot by being a offense-breaking, no-defense player, which is what he is now. Pretty much no one wanted Jamaal this off-season, and he's an actualized Murray.Isaiah Thomas was a low efficiency chucker in Washington, Murray has the same type of game as other Seattle point guards who model their games after the god-father Jamal Crawford.(Justin Dentmon is also a product of the same system but he couldn't be saved since he was already a grown ass man)
Russell Westbrook is a low efficiency chucker and is a top 5 player in the league. With the right coaching and schemes he can become a great player. The kid is 19 please don't forget that.
...Did you read my post at all?
I stated when he was drafted that he was a prototypical 6th man combo guard ala Crawford which is something the team is going to need when Manu retires. Isaiah Thomas is essentially a midget version of Kyrie Iriving: http://bkref.com/tiny/KATXt (Folks were saying Kyrie wasn't a championship point guard after Gm 2 of the Finals)
PATFO need to go after Chris Paul next Summer & have Murray playing the Crawford role.
http://hoopshype.com/player/jamal-crawford/But he's not getting the 10th-man or especially the backup PG spot by being a offense-breaking, no-defense player, which is what he is now. Pretty much no one wanted Jamaal this off-season, and he's an actualized Murray.
What he did would have fit well in the okc series when no one could create for anything outside of lma and Kawhi. He was criticized for his finishing in college. Even NBA players struggle to finish against elite rim protectors, that's something everyone has to adjust to. He seemed to do well tonight. He took a couple bad shots, I agree. One that stood out was when he was staying two defenders and threw up a Chuck with his man on him. Looked exactly like Crawford. That being said, one or two isn't bad. Most stars do the same.
Most coaches Will tell you that part of being a great floor general is taking what the defense gives you. He took his opportunities and converted points with high efficiency. Whether those points are his or his teammates, matters in the efficiency it's done, which he did well. If he takes those same shots and misses the majority, then we have an issue. That wasn't the case though.
Once more no reiterate, his game didn't show him to be a chucker. He took more efficient shots than hail marys. Most of them were layups.
Not sure where the upset narrative comes from. Just talking basketball. Think you boys are too used to taking a message board too serious. It's just a bunch of fans talking. Lighten up.
no one should have ever wanted crawford. which is why it is laughable to hear people try to argue that the nba has the best basketball talent. NBA has athleticism with extremely low bbiq. unfortunately it is what the "fans" want.
The luckiest thing that happened to Kyrie and LeBum was his ty game winning 3 in 7. Kyrie is a dumb player.I stated when he was drafted that he was a prototypical 6th man combo guard ala Crawford which is something the team is going to need when Manu retires. Isaiah Thomas is essentially a midget version of Kyrie Iriving: http://bkref.com/tiny/KATXt (Folks were saying Kyrie wasn't a championship point guard after Gm 2 of the Finals)
PATFO need to go after Chris Paul next Summer & have Murray playing the Crawford role.
http://hoopshype.com/player/jamal-crawford/
That would be interesting. The team looks to have like $28 Million in cap space. If he's willing to take that, I think it would be idealI stated when he was drafted that he was a prototypical 6th man combo guard ala Crawford which is something the team is going to need when Manu retires. Isaiah Thomas is essentially a midget version of Kyrie Iriving: http://bkref.com/tiny/KATXt (Folks were saying Kyrie wasn't a championship point guard after Gm 2 of the Finals)
PATFO need to go after Chris Paul next Summer & have Murray playing the Crawford role.
I meant people on here.
That would be ideal.I stated when he was drafted that he was a prototypical 6th man combo guard ala Crawford which is something the team is going to need when Manu retires. Isaiah Thomas is essentially a midget version of Kyrie Iriving: http://bkref.com/tiny/KATXt (Folks were saying Kyrie wasn't a championship point guard after Gm 2 of the Finals)
PATFO need to go after Chris Paul next Summer & have Murray playing the Crawford role.
http://hoopshype.com/player/jamal-crawford/
As good as chinook is at the cap and analytics, he is as equally bad as a talent evaluator.
Yeah... decent player... kind of like Cojo... good Austin bound player.
Why do we want to move Murray to a 6th man SG? Let him develop as the PG of the future. I guess being 6'5" it is easy to want to move him.I stated when he was drafted that he was a prototypical 6th man combo guard ala Crawford which is something the team is going to need when Manu retires. Isaiah Thomas is essentially a midget version of Kyrie Iriving: http://bkref.com/tiny/KATXt (Folks were saying Kyrie wasn't a championship point guard after Gm 2 of the Finals)
PATFO need to go after Chris Paul next Summer & have Murray playing the Crawford role.
http://hoopshype.com/player/jamal-crawford/
Going to take a while before Murray can quarterback an NBA team. Not likely, at best he develops a 3 point shot and becomes a 3-and-d player. He's got long strides and length, but plays below the rim.
Plays below the rim? He's a PG, right? We are talking PG and not C?
He he did seem to get up and slam that alley oop pretty easily.
Of of course he can't QB an NBA team. He's ing 19 and only played 1 season of college ball. let him develop a little bit.
What are you guys thoughts on Kyle? 23 points 7 assist 10 rebounds 3 steals, he is just so awkward but it works some of his shots that go in or how he gets to the rim are just mind boggling, but hey it works.
Let's make our first round PG a 3&D player because he can't QB an NBA team after 1 summer league game. Ha ha
the thought process of this place is so asinine sometimes.
Seems to love attacking the rim.
He always fills up the stat sheet and was putting similar games together towards the end of the regular season when he played enough minutes. Although obviously very low usage. His weakness has been playing off the ball bc he's not an ideal spot up shooter and that is what Pop reduced him to playing when it mattered. But he was always able to find himself playing time bc he contributes in many other areas beside scoring that ppl around here ignore. If he played enough minutes and had more opportunities to score he would produce a lot more. I am crossing fingers that he's found his 3 pt shot and that is here to stay. Didn't shoot it that well from 3 in this game, but he's been hitting the 3 very well. He's also not going to ever be an athletic guy but he knows how to play the team game.
Just finished watching. I don't know what Anderson has left to prove. He's a man among boys out there...toying with them. Simmons can't get out if his own way with that loose dribble, but I love his attack and moxie. Is it just me or did he completely ignore Murray on offense the entire game? Now that kid...smooth, athletic finisher. If only his jump shot were legit, like Forbes. Ok, so Forbes proved he's human, but I still like the variety of shots he took even if he struggled. Arci still seems to be the best game manager outside of Kyle, think he's going to be good in Austin and a potential call up at some point.
Ok...ramblings complete.
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