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    Manu pulling a Wade

    Let's hope he can repay PATFO for not pushing him out by signing an Amir Johnson type contract. Would be a good trade chip next summer.

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    -The End. I apologize for burying the lede but it's difficult to actually type it out. From the latest I heard, the plan is for Tim Duncan to retire today. If today is indeed the end, there's only one thing I can say: Thanks. It was a damn fun ride.

    -From what I was told, about three weeks ago Duncan started working out on his own to see how his body reacted. Unfortunately, the knee that used to be his good knee didn't improve at all despite the rest. He has played a long time on one leg but losing his good knee has simply made it impossible for Duncan to keep going.
    Gotta say, that makes what he did in Game 6 against OKC even more special. Heart of a champion.... The guy is a fighter and a winner. Till the wheels fall off....

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    I stay on this board and ignore the BS posts so I can read and participate in posts like this. If TD retires, so be it, we will move on and hopefully he sticks around the SA area (maybe with some sort of duties at Spurs HQ). Losing West hurts, losing Diaw hurts more because he has done a of a job in the past and as for Boban, hey, a great guy and I'm glad he is getting paid. As for Manu, I agree he still has gas in the tank and as far as I'm concerned TD, Manu and Parker should stay Spurs as long as possible. Imagine if Manu was offered that much what they would pay Parker out there now. Keep posting TIMVP.

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    Domain name goes down, then timvp posting, Tim retiring after 19 years...it really is the apocalypse.

    I think the new line up will be compe ive and I am liking the new younger players. Pau in a Spurs uniform is going to be weird at first, but after a few nice passes from him in the high/low post will probably fix that optic.
    Shame to lose Boban and Bobo. Great to have Manu back for one more year. Don't want to talk about Tim until it is official.

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    Timvp sighting

    hopefully you stick around once in a while after handing over ST

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    I heart Duncan...

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    Losing both Diaw and West is the biggest problem apart from Duncan's loss. Spurs have only two established bigs, particularly on offense. Pop's going to have a hard time getting rest days in and even small injuries with missed games are going to be brutal.

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    Damn, the wheels really fell off.

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    10 millions for Manu?

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    AND a roster spot.

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    People/trolls who will endlessly lose their and over Manu's 10 or 15 million, please realise his ing cap hold, the market and the little relation to anything the Spurs could have realistically done there.

    + he is still underpaid and Timvp calling him the bench player STILL with the most impact in the league is a very good take! On top of being a legend who has given everything to the Spurs he is quite simply the most value.

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    People who will endlessly lose their and over Manu's 10 or 15 million, please realise his ing cap hold, the market and the little relation to anything the Spurs could have realistically done there.

    + he is still underpaid and Timvp calling him the bench player STILL with the most impact in the league is a very good take!

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    You should not roll your eyes. Underpaid/Overpaid is relative. The fact Manu turned down a bigger offer (fact not fiction) means he took less money and is underpaid.

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    timvp!!!! Great to hear from you.

    Today is a big day for Spurs fans. Feels like the end of the Duncan era. What a thrill to ride TD's coattails as a fan for 19 yrs.

    This will be a MAJOR return to the under the radar ways of the Spurs, sometimes that works out well.

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    -The End. I apologize for burying the lede but it's difficult to actually type it out. From the latest I heard, the plan is for Tim Duncan to retire today. If today is indeed the end, there's only one thing I can say: Thanks. It was a damn fun ride.

    -From what I was told, about three weeks ago Duncan started working out on his own to see how his body reacted. Unfortunately, the knee that used to be his good knee didn't improve at all despite the rest. He has played a long time on one leg but losing his good knee has simply made it impossible for Duncan to keep going.

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    Duncan, thank you for all the memories!

    YOU ARE THE GREATEST POWER FORWARD OF ALL TIME, AND YOU HAVE GIVEN SPURS FANS THOSE PRICELESS WORLD LE TROPHIES!

    GODSPEED!

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    Timvp sighting


    Thanks for the write up. I think Timmy should walk away tbh, as much as it pains me to say it. It's time. I hate seeing him as a broken down stiff out there. He was too great a player for that. We're definitely thin at the big man position though.

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    More sense in one post than the site has had in years.

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    10 millions for Manu?

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    I don't know how it would work contract/cap wise, but is it possible for Tim/Spurs to have a planned way for Tim to play half the year? Maybe retire and then unretire at the all-star break if he felt up to it? I know...I'm in denial.

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    Thanks, TiMVP. Always a good read. Spurs are definitely going to be thin up front. Manu's deal is deserved, but likely means vet minimum bigs for the 4th, 5th and 6th bigs.

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    -I like the Pau Gasol signing. Given the contracts that were handed out this summer, getting him on a two-year deal for $30 million is more than reasonable. And I believe that he fits what the Spurs needed most: another player who can create easy offense. Gasol's exemplary passing ability will be a seamless fit into the offensive scheme. The fact that he can knock down an open shot is also important for a starting lineup that tended to have spacing issues last season. Add in his quality hands and soft touch around the rim and it's safe to say he'll be a successful fit for San Antonio – as long as the 36-year-old can keep Father Time at bay, of course.

    -I also like the signing of Dewayne Dedmon. The bigman rotation last year obviously lacked athleticism, which ultimately became a leading cause of the downfall against the Thunder. Dedmon is raw (while he's turning 27 over the summer, he started playing basketball at 18 – so his basketball maturity is closer to that of a 22- or 23-year-old) but he could really help if he pans out. A bigman who can run and jump who plays with a lot of energy to play next to LaMarcus Aldridge or Gasol? Yes, please. However, it's important to realize he's far from a guaranteed fit; there are reasons (mostly revolving around the aforementioned rawness) why he got less than 10% of the guaranteed money that bigmen like Mozgov and Mahinmi got. Dedmon could be the next failed bigman gamble in the vein of Jackie Butler, but let us hope he'll be another success story to put alongside Baynes and Boban.

    -Speaking of Boban, it was disappointing to see the Spurs lose him. I'm not sure how much he would have helped the Spurs next season but he was definitely intriguing. Perhaps his flaws would have ultimately led him to never evolving to anything more than a situational player ... but it sure would have been fun to watch him try. Ah well. The Pistons offer ended up being something the Spurs couldn't match even if they wanted to.

    -The End. I apologize for burying the lede but it's difficult to actually type it out. From the latest I heard, the plan is for Tim Duncan to retire today. If today is indeed the end, there's only one thing I can say: Thanks. It was a damn fun ride.

    -From what I was told, about three weeks ago Duncan started working out on his own to see how his body reacted. Unfortunately, the knee that used to be his good knee didn't improve at all despite the rest. He has played a long time on one leg but losing his good knee has simply made it impossible for Duncan to keep going.

    -The Spurs have been telling Duncan to take his time in making his decision in hopes that he changes his mind. The front office didn't expect to lose both Boris Diaw and David West this offseason – and they had previously projected that they'd be able to keep Boban. After losing all three, the Spurs prefer for Duncan to return – but they obviously will let him make the final call.

    -If nothing is announced today, I would take it as good news in the Duncan-returning front. But from everything I've heard, it's the end. And knowing Duncan, he'd like nothing more than to be able to covertly disappear rather than ever even announcing anything.

    -The Spurs knew that if the bidding for Gasol went beyond a certain number that they'd lose Diaw. And considering that Pop gave up on him at the end of last season, everyone was fine with that. Losing West was surprising to the front office but apparently he felt disrespected. By what? They don't really know. As for Boban, he was lost when Manu Ginobili demanded a raise.

    -Ginobili went to the Spurs with a one-year, $18-19 million offer in hand from another team. Was he serious about taking the offer? I don't think anyone believed he would have actually left but Ginobili was able to create enough leverage to get somewhere in the neighborhood of $10 million from the Spurs.

    -Is Ginobili worth that? yes. I'm thrilled to have him back for another season. In my eyes, he's still the most impactful bench player in the league. Sure, he doesn't score like Jamal Crawford or defend like Andre Iguodala, but Ginobili remains the ultimate difference-maker off the bench. Besides, it would have been too painful to see both Duncan and Ginobili retire in the same summer.

    -All in all, I think the front office has done a really good job. I don't think there is a bad contract on the books, especially after the rise of the salary cap. Danny Green is suddenly a bargain. I know Spurs fans aren't in love with Tony Parker's salary but I'm confident he would have gotten Gasol money in free agency if made available. A four-time champion, former Finals MVP coming off of a bounce-back season would have been paid big bucks in this market.

    -With how things turned out this summer, Kyle Anderson now has a path to be a full-time stretch power forward – and I think that will suite him well. He's playing PF in summer league, which is likely a sign of things to come. If he can rebound (he already rebounds better than Diaw), I don't see why it won't work. (And while it's a bit scary to think about [especially since it's so far away], any hope of the Spurs beating the Warriors probably includes a lot of small ball with Anderson at power forward.)

    -I'm still intrigued by Jonathon Simmons. His game still needs some taming and refining but he's a plus athlete who can create off the dribble and finish, while also being equipped with above average court vision. If he uses his athleticism to become anything close to a lockdown defender, I could easily imagine Pop falling in love with him.

    -Dejounte Murray has a pretty high ceiling for being selected 29th. He didn't really play that well as a freshman at Washington (especially if you dive into his advanced stats) but I found it interesting that Spurs actually relied more on their scouting of him from back when he was in high school. They were able to ignore the question marks that scared other teams off because they were confident in their scouting reports from a couple years ago. The same type of long-term scouting led them to George Hill and Cory Joseph, so hopefully it works again.

    -Kawhi Leonard. MVP runner-up. Not bad, kid. Couldn't finish these disjointed Random Thoughts without at least mentioning his name.
    Nice write up, agree on all points. Thanks for making a appearance around here.

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    With all the stuff in the news today, you think TD would announce his retirement? It'd definitely be under the radar, but at the same time maybe he wouldn't want to now?

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    OP is an emo quitter tbh
    Tbh

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