Official 2016 Summer League Thread

[r0drig0lac]

Vegas roster is out:




Bertans, LJC, and Ndoye all on there

nice

[raybies]

Very good point that I had not ever considered is the contractual aspect of this.

Yeah right now it's Murray and Livio, and if Milutinov comes too that's potentially allot of money to hand out that summers and we risk losing one especially if the projection are that Murray will come any where near the max which is a possibility. I mean pop already told Murray he wants him to be the next Leonard. If he turns out to be a star it would be unbelievable. Drafting all-star outside the lottery and when we need them. It's like patfo knows when to shot for a star and when to shot for a role player. I think that's a big part of the success they've had in drafting.

[Emperor]

yeah will be in attendance tomorrow night!

[Drom John]

I still can't believe that no one's commented on Hanlan's absence yet.

The Hanlan trade didn't become official till about an hour ago.
These rosters are "subject to change."

[SAGirl]

Yeah right now it's Murray and Livio, and if Milutinov comes too that's potentially allot of money to hand out that summers and we risk losing one especially if the projection are that Murray will come any where near the max which is a possibility. I mean pop already told Murray he wants him to be the next Leonard. If he turns out to be a star it would be unbelievable. Drafting all-star outside the lottery and when we need them. It's like patfo knows when to shot for a star and when to shot for a role player. I think that's a big part of the success they've had in drafting.

A good point on Murray is that he didn't seem a Spursy type pick. Even though he was a favorite of mine, it was precisely based on physical attributes and his youth, the potential capacity to improve with his physical attributes. When I dug more on him, he didn't seem Spursy, and well you can already perceive the mixed reactions here. But PATFO was looking for some upside and he has it, and they have to feed his ambition and desire to improve, bc if he just stays complacent as he is, then he won't reach the ceiling the perceive for him. He was comparing himself not only to Leonard, but to Tony, in terms of guys that Pop coached from a very young age, such as himself, and who reached a higher ceiling than they were projected at... Tony resonated with him bc he was a late first round pick.

Can't say I like that part of his personality, proclaiming his ambitions like that and comparing himself to them, it seemed pretentious to me. OTOH someone may like that he's so open about his own ambitions, we are used to not having that young of players in the Spurs to begin with and the ones we have had like CoJo, Kawhi and Anderson were more humble and reserved. Heck, it was an issue here when Kawhi said he wanted to be the MVP, then he had to clarify he wanted to play at an MVP level. So, anyways I have gone on a tangent. I hope he puts his work and his action where his mouth is. I am of the opinion that dog that barks that much, doesn't have bite.

[Keepin' it real]

I still can't believe that no one's commented on Hanlan's absence yet.

Why comment on a scrub?

[ceperez]

A good point on Murray is that he didn't seem a Spursy type pick. Even though he was a favorite of mine, it was precisely based on physical attributes and his youth, the potential capacity to improve with his physical attributes. When I dug more on him, he didn't seem Spursy, and well you can already perceive the mixed reactions here. But PATFO was looking for some upside and he has it, and they have to feed his ambition and desire to improve, bc if he just stays complacent as he is, then he won't reach the ceiling the perceive for him. He was comparing himself not only to Leonard, but to Tony, in terms of guys that Pop coached from a very young age, such as himself, and who reached a higher ceiling than they were projected at... Tony resonated with him bc he was a late first round pick.

Can't say I like that part of his personality, proclaiming his ambitions like that and comparing himself to them, it seemed pretentious to me. OTOH someone may like that he's so open about his own ambitions, we are used to not having that young of players in the Spurs to begin with and the ones we have had like CoJo, Kawhi and Anderson were more humble and reserved. Heck, it was an issue here when Kawhi said he wanted to be the MVP, then he had to clarify he wanted to play at an MVP level. So, anyways I have gone on a tangent. I hope he puts his work and his action where his mouth is. I am of the opinion that dog that barks that much, doesn't have bite.

My take..... he likely will be traded. Too y for a 19 year old. Furthermore, his agent is not going to be the kind that will accept a pay cut. I would trade him for a promising big.

[Chinook]

My take..... he likely will be traded. Too y for a 19 year old. Furthermore, his agent is not going to be the kind that will accept a pay cut. I would trade him for a promising big.

[Chinook]

The Hanlan trade didn't become official till about an hour ago.
These rosters are "subject to change."

Thanks.

[palangi]

My take..... he likely will be traded. Too y for a 19 year old. Furthermore, his agent is not going to be the kind that will accept a pay cut. I would trade him for a promising big.

Well its a good thing your take doesn't mean

[ceperez]

Spurs rookies, #4 Forbes and #10 Murray in NBA Rookie Ladder:

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/feature...-ii/index.html

[raybies]

My take..... he likely will be traded. Too y for a 19 year old. Furthermore, his agent is not going to be the kind that will accept a pay cut. I would trade him for a promising big.

The influences from the spurs organization will wear off on him. He'll be in the middle. Too early to tell now but he's got a stars moves, shot, and personality. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing yet. While i want him to rise and be the next Tony, it may be best that pop makes sure he gets over him self first. While he's not spursy he does have character and has overcome struggle which is something the spurs look for in players. The real unspursy thing about him is his playground style of play which can be a bit flashy at times and individual but again he's 19. He's not cultured to the spurs. That will take some time. Luckily we got him young. This will be all he knows and gives him an increased shot of reaching his potential. From what I've heard, from previous coaches and himself is that he's a hard worker and very coachable. Doesn't seem like the problem child you are expecting him to be. He'll be surrounded by good influences with players of some of the highest integrity and character. They'll look out for him and make sure he doesn't go astray and for this I wonder if they'll keep him with big team for stretches for bonding and to build relationships.

[-21-]

PATFO wouldn't have taken him if they think he can't get over himself. It's too early to judge the guy.

[Mnky]

The spurs are used to getting their tails handed to them by y youngins, that's why spurfan is sensitive to confidence.

[wildbill2u]

With so many guys on the roster for Vegas I don't see how some of them will get any minutes to show what they can do. I'm glad NDoye made the roster.

[raybies]

On a sidenote Murray, Boston players were sticking to their guys on Murray's drives for the most part. Once teams get an advanced scouting report on him, they'll sag off which he'll either shoot or he can call for a pick and roll. Now in the pick and roll that's where the assists will come, not to mention if the gamelan with him is to pack the paint. It'll be hard for teams to do that with our shooting. Bertans and Forbes would have a field day.

[raybies]

With so many guys on the roster for Vegas I don't see how some of them will get any minutes to show what they can do. I'm glad NDoye made the roster.

He should start imo

[ceperez]

The influences from the spurs organization will wear off on him. He'll be in the middle. Too early to tell now but he's got a stars moves, shot, and personality. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing yet. While i want him to rise and be the next Tony, it may be best that pop makes sure he gets over him self first. While he's not spursy he does have character and has overcome struggle which is something the spurs look for in players. The real unspursy thing about him is his playground style of play which can be a bit flashy at times and individual but again he's 19. He's not cultured to the spurs. That will take some time. Luckily we got him young. This will be all he knows and gives him an increased shot of reaching his potential. From what I've heard, from previous coaches and himself is that he's a hard worker and very coachable. Doesn't seem like the problem child you are expecting him to be. He'll be surrounded by good influences with players of some of the highest integrity and character. They'll look out for him and make sure he doesn't go astray and for this I wonder if they'll keep him with big team for stretches for bonding and to build relationships.

The problem right now is the Spurs are loaded with noobs and don't have the luxury of baby sitting a wet behind the ears noob.

For your viewing pleasure, the Spurs noobs:

Anderson
Simmons
Dedmon
Bertans
Livio Jean Charles
Forbes
Murray

That is 7 players! I would like to think that Anderson is a veteran, but he's only 22 years old!

Spurs lost Duncan, West and Diaw... all 3 players capable of coaching the younger guys.

We now are left with Parker, Green, Leonard, Aldridge and Pau... none look like the mentor types.

The only real mentors left are Manu and Mills.

[raybies]

The spurs are used to getting their tails handed to them by y youngins, that's why spurfan is sensitive to confidence.

Yeah well he's got confidence but he's got some iness to him.

[Dex]

Yeah well he's got confidence but he's got some iness to him.

Spurs could use some iness, tbqh.

[raybies]

Pop
Tony
Manu
Patty
Paul
LMA
Kawhi

They'll have players that will say something and the rookies will listen. We got like five hall of famers on the squad and that's not including if Duncan returns, although unlikely. Even Simmons had shown some leadership qualities.

[picnroll]

If nothing else the development of Murray will be interesting. My bet is he'll be one of the more controversial players of the new generation picking up where the Manu vs Parker clique battles left off.

[Mnky]

Spurs could use some iness, tbqh.

Agreed. That's why role players go off on them. They lack the killer instinct to put them in their place when they flex on em.

[peacemaker885]

Sorry if posted already.

Davis Bertans and LJC to play in Vegas Summer League.

[palangi]

The problem right now is the Spurs are loaded with noobs and don't have the luxury of baby sitting a wet behind the ears noob.

For your viewing pleasure, the Spurs noobs:

Anderson
Simmons
Dedmon
Bertans
Livio Jean Charles
Forbes
Murray

That is 7 players! I would like to think that Anderson is a veteran, but he's only 22 years old!

Spurs lost Duncan, West and Diaw... all 3 players capable of coaching the younger guys.

We now are left with Parker, Green, Leonard, Aldridge and Pau... none look like the mentor types.

The only real mentors left are Manu and Mills.

You are trying real hard to villianize this kid. Did he kick your dog?