Warrior criminals are out of control

[Winehole23]

With the brutal killings that happened in Dallas, this thread is more relevant than ever. The left's War on Cops is very real, as sad as it is to say.

Lone gunman did a tour in Afghanistan. The left's putative war on cops didn't teach him the art of war, military service in Afghanistan did. Shooter's a vet.

Blaming this shooting on the media is preposterous. Weak take.

[Winehole23]

Criticism isn't a war on cops. It's citizens speaking their minds.

Protesters didn't make any of this happen. Crazy criminals did.

[Winehole23]

crazy criminals are out of control. the broader context is historically low levels of violent crime.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Lone gunman did a tour in Afghanistan. The left's putative war on cops didn't teach him the art of war, military service in Afghanistan did. Shooter's a vet.

Blaming this shooting on the media is preposterous. Weak take.

He was a carpentry and masonry specialist on the engineer brigade
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...r-reports.html

[Winehole23]

The statistical picture on police violence is murkier. Not all PDs report as required by law.

[Winehole23]

He was a carpentry and masonry specialist on the engineer brigade
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...r-reports.html

you don't count that?

[Winehole23]

nine months in Afghanistan. would you go there?

[TheSanityAnnex]

you don't count that?

For learning the "art of war"? no

[Winehole23]

He was a carpentry and masonry specialist on the engineer brigade
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...r-reports.html

nine months in Afghanistan. would you go?

[Winehole23]

For learning the "art of war"? no

you suppose they sent him there untrained?

[Winehole23]

engineers and even ditch-diggers are important in war. they didn't call Robert E. Lee the King of Spades for nothing.

[ElNono]

He was a carpentry and masonry specialist on the engineer brigade
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...r-reports.html

I'm no expert, but it looked like he could handle a weapon pretty well. I'm pretty sure some of the cops that faced him would agree if they could.

[Winehole23]

One last point: I’ve seen some police officials and their advocates respond to these statistics by pointing out that even if assaults and killings of cops are down, anti-police rhetoric is increasing. Therefore, they say, they’re justified in proclaiming that there’s a war on the police. This is nonsense. Police agencies are government agencies. They’re government agencies in whom we entrust the power to detain, arrest, and kill. Yes, it’s true that some people are demanding more of those agencies. It’s true that personal technology is enabling people to create an independent video narrative of their interactions with police. It’s true that those videos have sometimes revealed police misconduct and brutality, and that police officers, like all people, sometimes mis-remember, misstate, and outright lie when recounting contentious, traumatic, high-stakes incidents. And it’s true that because of all of this, the public as a whole today finds police officers as a whole less trustworthy than in the past. It’s also true that some activists, pundits, and politicians are demanding more accountability, transparency, and training for police.


None of these things are indicative of a “war.” On the contrary, all of this new skepticism, criticism, forced transparency, and mistrust of the police is — again — coming even as violence against police officers is reaching historic lows. This is how a democracy is supposed to work. It’s something worth celebrating.


Instead, police groups and their advocates are claiming that the mere act of criticizing a government en y is akin to declaring war on it, and that therefore, police critics are culpable every time a police officer is murdered. (And given the way they ignore and abuse statistics, those critics are also apparently culpable for a lot of murders that never happened.) They’re essentially saying that exercising cons utional rights and participating in democracy are in and of themselves acts of violence. And in many cases, this is coming from the very people that the government empowers to use actual violence.


That is something worth worrying about

[boutons_deux]

"Police agencies are government agencies"

St Ronnie, Repugs, VRWC have been LYING for 40 years that "GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM", well, THEIR police/surveillance state IS THE PROBLEM

[Winehole23]

defense and LE bureaucracies wearing blue uniforms and badges get a pass from conservatives because they have a monopoly on legitimate violence.

tacit veneration of state power is revealed by explicit worship of US armed forces and the police.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

you don't count that?

That means he set up fortifications which includes gun emplacements.

TSA is a buffoon.

[spurraider21]

Clipper Nation

[Clipper Nation]

An Alabama mother said her 17-year-old son — who had recently voiced his support for law enforcement amid protests over fatal police shootings — was severely beaten in an empty parking lot in Sylacauga, an attack she called a racially motivated hate crime.

Brandi Allen told Fox affiliate WBRC that her son, Brian Ogle, suffered a skull fractures in the brutal attack following a Friday-night football game.

“Apparently he was hit with something — what is presumed to be the butt of the pistol on his face,” she said. “He has s ches and he’s got bruising, real bad bruising on his shoulder. There’s a lot of wounds on the back of his head from being hit as well.”

“Instead of us planning for his 18th birthday, we’re here. Why? Because he made a statement that he backs the blue,” Allen told the news station.

“I’m trying to understand how anyone — I don’t care the color of their skin — could do this to another human being.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-a-hate-crime/

[clambake]

trill, whats your take with the sheriff that got killed in lancaster?

[Clipper Nation]

Chicago’s top cop said Thursday one of his officers was seriously beaten at an accident scene because the national focus on police shootings has caused officers to second-guess themselves.

Superintendent Eddie Johnson said the patrol officer told him she did not use her gun to defend herself for fear of a backlash. "She didn’t want her family or the department to go through the scrutiny the next day on national news," he said.

The injured officer, a 17-year Chicago police veteran, got into a struggle with a man who allegedly was high on PCP after she stopped at a crash scene in the Austin community on the West Side on Wednesday morning.

The suspect smashed the officer's face into the pavement repeatedly until she was unconscious, police said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...006-story.html

[Trill Clinton]

[Spurminator]

The killer seems like a nice kid with a good head on his shoulders.

https://twitter.com/TrentonForster

[Winehole23]

The historical trend proves Clipper Nation wrong. Violence against LE is still near the historical low.

There is no war on cops, but no doubt, they do have a dangerous job.

The number one threat to cops is car crashes. Shot by thugs isn't even close.

[Spurminator]

The number one threat to cops is car crashes. Shot by thugs isn't even close.

Don't put it past Clipper Deux to blame those crashes on BLM.

[Trill Clinton]

The killer seems like a nice kid with a good head on his shoulders.

https://twitter.com/TrentonForster

wow. the thugs timeline consisted of nothing but demonic posts.