Tim Duncan Retires.

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Dear Media: If your only takeaway from your interaction with Tim Duncan is that he's dull, that means he didn't like you.

[houston spurs fan]

Anybody know what time Pop talks today? I assume it will stream on NBATV

[r0drig0lac]

wow

[kobyz]

I just feel a hole, feel not complete with Tim having only 5 les, he did, dedicate and secrefise to deserve more, at least 6! This is killing me...

[houston spurs fan]

DRob on Mike n Mike closed his interview this morning saying Timmy was Top 5. They were a little surprised to hear him say that but dammit he was. If this were the Knicks there'd be no question...Kerr was the only other guy I've heard say this. I hope TD's legacy grows over time similar to the way the big O's has...

[JP le Requin]

I feel bad...so sad... so sad..
i already miss so much the amiral, and now Timmy...

I wanted to come back in san antonio maybe one last time to again see Timmy playing and kiss the board..

what a legacy, what a champion we had..what a career !!

THANKS SO MUCH TIMMMY..

Love, from France...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4n-Gb0x3jU

[JP le Requin]

its like i miss a 20 years old pal...

[NikosChelsea7]

Anybody know what time Pop talks today? I assume it will stream on NBATV

[byrontx]

Favorite story so far...
http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washin...hoo&yptr=yahoo

[TheCerebral1]

I lived in San Antonio as a kid of 5 in early 1992, and I fell in love with the game under The Admiral. He gave you athleticism, professionalism and always willing to sign a ball or say o. I sat front row behind the bench early in 1992, and he came up to me and signed a ball. At the time he was my favorite player that I ever saw live (sans the respect I have for Jordan). In 1996, when he went down I just felt a pit in my stomach, and I thought that the type of injury it was, that he would lose a step. The luckiest thing that ever happened was a lottery pick in the name of Wake Forest four year starter Tim Duncan. From the first day, he proved that silence can be deadly. You can pursue greatness, with leaving it on the court and not being a drama queen poser. For every trip to San Antonio for work, it was a personal attempt to see him play. The consistency, the non-wavering work in the community and more importantly 19 seasons of being a kid in a candy shop. I thank you Timmy, for making the game of basketball great again and that TEAM comes first. Congrats on all the accolades and successes, but truly thank you for being a role model in the worst way possible in a game that is full of clowns. Congrats to the greatest Team General of all time.

[SPURt]

Does anyone know the time zone on this time? EST?

[Ice009]

DRob on Mike n Mike closed his interview this morning saying Timmy was Top 5. They were a little surprised to hear him say that but dammit he was. If this were the Knicks there'd be no question...Kerr was the only other guy I've heard say this. I hope TD's legacy grows over time similar to the way the big O's has...

I've been saying it for like 2 years. Hardly anyone else here even says it except me.

2013 - He was the finals MVP if his teammates didn't choke it away. That amazing performance in the finals at his age was incredible. He had to watch his teammates throw away the Championship in game 6 after he put them in position to win it. That series got him into the top 5 IMO as he would have been the finals MVP had the last 27 seconds not happened. I also would have wanted him on the court for both of those possessions Pop pulled him out. It really pissed me off.

2014 - He was the Spurs best overall player in the playoffs even though Kawhi was the finals MVP. That cemented him there for me. It was similar to 2007 where Tim was by far the Spurs best player throughout the entire playoffs with TP taking advantage in the finals over Boobie Gibson. By comparison, Kawhi's finals MVP was much more impressive as he went against the best player on the planet while Tony took advantage of a lesser player in the 2007 finals.

2015 - Going against two of the NBA's most athletic front court players at his age and being the Spurs best player in the series made sure that he stayed in the top 5.

Tim was the Spurs best overall player in the 2013, 2014, 2015 playoffs. Think about that for a moment. Incredible that he was able to perform like that at his age on only one good knee. He was an absolute freaking legend.

I am absolutely devastated that he had to retire. I thought the injury to his good knee could be rehabbed during the off-season and that he could/would come back for one more season. It's going to take me a while to process/accept this. I really think he should have taken more time to decide. I think he should have opted out and taken off the whole off-season to see if it felt better by October, and then start training in October if it felt good and be ready to play around January.

[kobyz]

I'm for sure the biggest Tim Duncan fan in the world, I'm so broken right now, no one can understand how much i admire him and the way i connected to him when first time saw him play in 1999 playoff, when i wasn't even much into basketball, it was so direct, so divine... everything about him and his game perfectly touching me... With his retirement i lost big part of me and meaning for life! Also hurting for life knowing how much more he should achieve for not so many time people let him down and so much bad luck!!!

[Killakobe81]

I've been saying it for like 2 years. Hardly anyone else here even says it except me.

2013 - He was the finals MVP if his teammates didn't choke it away. That amazing performance in the finals at his age was incredible. He had to watch his teammates throw away the Championship in game 6 after he put them in position to win it. That series got him into the top 5 IMO as he would have been the finals MVP had the last 27 seconds not happened. I also would have wanted him on the court for both of those possessions Pop pulled him out. It really pissed me off.

2014 - He was the Spurs best overall player in the playoffs even though Kawhi was the finals MVP. That cemented him there for me. It was similar to 2007 where Tim was by far the Spurs best player throughout the entire playoffs with TP taking advantage in the finals over Boobie Gibson. Kawhi's finals MVP was much better though as he went against the best player on the planet while Tony took advantage of a lesser player in the 2007 finals.

2015 - Going against two of the NBA's most athletic front court players at his age and being the Spurs best player in the series made sure that he stayed in the top 5.

Tim was the Spurs best overall player in the 2013, 2014, 2015 playoffs. Think about that for a moment - Incredible that he was able to perform like that at his age on only one good knee. He was an absolute freaking legend.

I am absolutely devastated that he had to retire. I thought the injury to his good knee could be rehabbed during the off-season and that he could/would come back for one more season. It's going to take me a while to process/accept this. I really think he should have taken more time to decide. I think he should have opted out and taken off the whole off-season to see if it felt better by October, and then start training in October if it felt good and be ready to play around January.

I dont think it's stretch to say top 5 ...
I dont really rank guys anymore I prefer all time 5

By position:

1st team

C Kareem
PF Duncan
SF LeBron (edges Bird)
SG Jordan
PG Magic

2nd Team

C Shaq (edges Hakeem but I could easily switch)
PF Dirk (edges KG but I argued for KG 2 years ago)
SF Bird
SG Kobe
PG Isiah (edges GP, Kidd, Stockton and Nash ...steph probably takes this with a few more elite years)

I dont judge players I never saw so No Wilt, Elgin, Oscar West for me ...

[keeferob25]

I've been saying it for like 2 years. Hardly anyone else here even says it except me.

2013 - He was the finals MVP if his teammates didn't choke it away. That amazing performance in the finals at his age was incredible. He had to watch his teammates throw away the Championship in game 6 after he put them in position to win it. That series got him into the top 5 IMO as he would have been the finals MVP had the last 27 seconds not happened. I also would have wanted him on the court for both of those possessions Pop pulled him out. It really pissed me off.

2014 - He was the Spurs best overall player in the playoffs even though Kawhi was the finals MVP. That cemented him there for me. It was similar to 2007 where Tim was by far the Spurs best player throughout the entire playoffs with TP taking advantage in the finals over Boobie Gibson. By comparison, Kawhi's finals MVP was much more impressive as he went against the best player on the planet while Tony took advantage of a lesser player in the 2007 finals.

2015 - Going against two of the NBA's most athletic front court players at his age and being the Spurs best player in the series made sure that he stayed in the top 5.

Tim was the Spurs best overall player in the 2013, 2014, 2015 playoffs. Think about that for a moment. Incredible that he was able to perform like that at his age on only one good knee. He was an absolute freaking legend.

I am absolutely devastated that he had to retire. I thought the injury to his good knee could be rehabbed during the off-season and that he could/would come back for one more season. It's going to take me a while to process/accept this. I really think he should have taken more time to decide. I think he should have opted out and taken off the whole off-season to see if it felt better by October, and then start training in October if it felt good and be ready to play around January.

Bravo Brotha!!!

[Killakobe81]

3rd team

C hakeem
PF KG
SF Pippen (durant may surpass him with some rings tbh)
SG Wade (edges Manu, Drexler, Miller and Ray)
PG GP (personal fave I modeled my defense after him as youngster

[SPURt]

This putz on first take is saying Kobe is the best player of their generation not Duncan.

First Take's Twitter is running a poll to vote the best player between Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan.

Kobe and Shaq are both currently above Tim

Spurstalk engage:

[kobyz]

Kawhi probably the closest thing there is that similar to Timmy but still quite far to the one and only, and although I'm a big fan of him also and connect to him, after Timmy i can't have even little of the same passion for a player and seeing him succeed although i should cause Kawhi is the type i connect to, and also it will give me pain seeing Spurs winning with Timmy no part of it... Don't know how i could carry on from here...

[kobyz]

I dont think it's stretch to say top 5 ...
I dont really rank guys anymore I prefer all time 5

By position:

1st team

C Kareem
PF Duncan
SF LeBron (edges Bird)
SG Jordan
PG Magic

2nd Team

C Shaq (edges Hakeem but I could easily switch)
PF Dirk (edges KG but I argued for KG 2 years ago)
SF Bird
SG Kobe
PG Isiah (edges GP, Kidd, Stockton and Nash ...steph probably takes this with a few more elite years)

I dont judge players I never saw so No Wilt, Elgin, Oscar West for me ...

Karl Malone should be second!

[Ice009]

I dont think it's stretch to say top 5 ...
I dont really rank guys anymore I prefer all time 5

By position:

1st team

C Kareem
PF Duncan
SF LeBron (edges Bird)
SG Jordan
PG Magic

2nd Team

C Shaq (edges Hakeem but I could easily switch)
PF Dirk (edges KG but I argued for KG 2 years ago)
SF Bird
SG Kobe
PG Isiah (edges GP, Kidd, Stockton and Nash ...steph probably takes this with a few more elite years)

I dont judge players I never saw so No Wilt, Elgin, Oscar West for me ...

Interesting way of looking at it. I kind of like that way of doing it as it makes it easier to choose if you do it by position.

The thing is Killa, Tim could have won 6, 7 or even 8 Championships with the Spurs. As good as Manu and Tony were, he had to play with some lower budget players in his prime as the Spurs never could afford other stars to put around him. Players also didn't seem to want to form super teams back then. lol, where were all these superstar players back in Tim's prime that are trying to form these Super teams now? If Kidd or someone like that came to the Spurs in 2004 or so, I felt the Spurs could have won something like 5 in a row.I consider Manu a big star in his prime (which was only a few years at his peak) and TP a fringe all-star level type of player. I always wondered how many Championships would Tim have won if he was in a big market like LA and was teamed up with Kobe. I think those two together could have been amazing. I really did think about it back in the early 2000s. I actually liked Kobe a lot up until towards the end of the 2003 season. He started losing me around the end of 2003, and then he totally lost me in the 2004 finals with his ultra selfish play. I think Kobe and Tim could have worked so much better together than him and Shaq as Tim wouldn't have had a problem with him taking the spotlight.

[keeferob25]

This putz on first take is saying Kobe is the best player of their generation not Duncan.

First Take's Twitter is running a poll to vote the best player between Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan.

Kobe and Shaq are both currently above Tim

Spurstalk engage:

I highlighted the reasons why you'll be disappointed by the results fam. Twitter and polls reflect the casual of casuals and casuals think in terms of popularity and who the media stands behind and TELLS them who the best is etc. And Duncan was firmly behind both in terms of media backing and big media market. And then First Take is ESPN and nothing really needs to be said about that.

Its better to poll every league office/front office personnel from when shaq was drafted to now and ask who would they pick to start their franchise with if you wanted to WIN and build a dynasty for 10+ years. I absolutely believe Duncan would handily come out on top.

[SPURt]

I highlighted the reasons why you'll be disappointed by the results fam. Twitter and polls reflect the casual of casuals and casuals think in terms of popularity and who the media stands behind and TELLS them who the best is etc. And Duncan was firmly behind both in terms of media backing and big media market. And then First Take is ESPN and nothing really needs to be said about that.

Its better to poll every league office/front office personnel from when shaq was drafted to now and ask who would they pick to start their franchise with if you wanted to WIN and build a dynasty for 10+ years. I absolutely believe Duncan would handily come out on top.

It's true but still tough to see. The fact Kobe and Shaq are being voted greater than Tim is hard but the fact these two players were teammates makes it worse.

[Killakobe81]

Interesting way of looking at it. I kind of like that way of doing it as it makes it easier to choose if you do it by position.

The thing is Killa, Tim could have won 6, 7 or even 8 Championships with the Spurs. As good as Manu and Tony were, he had to play with some lower budget players in his prime as the Spurs never could afford other stars to put around him. Players also didn't seem to want to form super teams back then. lol, where were all these superstar players back in Tim's prime that are trying to form these Super teams now? If Kidd or someone like that came to the Spurs in 2004 or so, I felt the Spurs could have won something like 5 in a row.I consider Manu a big star in his prime (which was only a few years at his peak) and TP a fringe all-star level type of player. I always wondered how many Championships would Tim have won if he was in a big market like LA and was teamed up with Kobe. I think those two together could have been amazing. I really did think about it back in the early 2000s. I actually liked Kobe a lot up until towards the end of the 2003 season. He started losing me around the end of 2003, and then he totally lost me in the 2004 finals with his ultra selfish play. I think Kobe and Tim could have worked so much better together than him and Shaq as Tim wouldn't have had a problem with him taking the spotlight.

agree with a lot of this including Kobe's play in 2004 but that team was a wreck. not even sure how we made it to the Finals. Kobe killed that team in Colorado. honestly I dont see the big need to cause this debate between shaq, Kobe and Tim. Kobe was the highlight. Shaq the most dominant. Duncan the more consistent and reliable of the 3. And a much better team-mate and leader than both guys who not only feuded with each other but publicly with other team-mates, management etc.
Shaq was the better finals performer but in the regular season Kobe was probably the most spectacular and often times post 2000 shaq would be out of shape to start the year.. Duncan was the one you could rely on to be great in both regular season, post season and in the lockerroom. Which is why in the end I take duncan over both though it's close imho.

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DRob on Mike n Mike closed his interview this morning saying Timmy was Top 5. They were a little surprised to hear him say that but dammit he was. If this were the Knicks there'd be no question...Kerr was the only other guy I've heard say this. I hope TD's legacy grows over time similar to the way the big O's has...

Put Duncan on the Lakers in 96 instead of Kobe. Shaq never leaves, Rodman never comes, so Del Harris never gets fired. The Lakers beat the Jordan Bulls at least once, then dominate the league for the next dozen years. Meanwhile Kobe Bryant retires as the second leading scorer in NBA history, never having made the conference finals in any of his six playoff appearances.

[Killakobe81]

Karl Malone should be second!

Rings matter.
Not putting him over Dirk, sorry.