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    I can't make threads bro, , can't even check my notifications

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    Did many get 14 million for one year? Or 10 Million?

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    you better get unpinked for the start o next season..plenty of fodder, plenty ..
    Tough being a Parker fan in a Manure forum

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    all the mods are parker stans though..

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    Tough being a Parker fan in a Manure forum
    who the is moderating here, hasnt been 2 months now since they canned you ?

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    Did many get 14 million for one year? Or 10 Million?
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    May not affect cap but how we looking in terms of having to pay luxury tax?

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    If it doesn't affect signing other players, I don't care what they pay him. It's Holt money.

    It does sort of put a dent in the idea that Manu took less money to help the team. Turns out, he took an IOU to help the team. Can't really have it both ways. Lucky for him, the IOU came due in a year when the cap went way up, and teams are spending like drunken sailors. I'm happy for him and his family, but I'm a little less in awe of what he did last year.

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    who the is moderating here, hasnt been 2 months now since they canned you ?
    Yeah it was after G2 vs OKC

    Thread le: "Can Poop out coach anyone?"

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    If it doesn't affect signing other players, I don't care what they pay him. It's Holt money.

    It does sort of put a dent in the idea that Manu took less money to help the team. Turns out, he took an IOU to help the team. Can't really have it both ways. Lucky for him, the IOU came due in a year when the cap went way up, and teams are spending like drunken sailors. I'm happy for him and his family, but I'm a little less in awe of what he did last year.
    I feel like I'm sometimes contrarian with you but I feel the opposite. I'm more in awe of what Manu did last year now. If there was no wink-wink 2 year deal agreement (which we now know) then he took a major discount to compete without the promise of being taken care of.

    He wanted to win, thought LMA was worth taking a discount for. This year, with KD saying no, he felt that the team could not reasonably get much better by him taking less so he cashed in. But that was a huge risk for him last year because if he had a career ending injury, he took a lot less with no guarantee of being paid this year.

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    ...and it's not just last year
    Each one of the big 3 gave up money to stay compe ive and give the team and themselves of course a chance to win

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    If you don't think Manu did us a solid last year your a moron tbh....

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    Manu may also have agreed to a lower amount but Spurs organization may have insisted on a higher one. We will never know. All I know is that we have the best FO and the best players. Manu deserves this. This is not Miami.

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    Manu may also have agreed to a lower amount but Spurs organization may have insisted on a higher one. We will never know. All I know is that we have the best FO and the best players. Manu deserves this. This is not Miami.
    Well, with Woj reporting that SA offered Manu 3M & the fact Manu's agent said they were seriously considering looking for market value, I find that to be highly unlikely

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    He deserves that like Timmy deserves 6 millions even if he won'T play
    They gave up so much money when they were in their prime for the better of the team, and that's how the Spurs work
    True, but you lose the benefit of under paying them in their prime for the better of the team by overpaying them when they are washed up. If you were going to overpay them on the backend to the team's detriment, you might as well have just paid them what they were worth in their prime and be done with it.

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    True, but you lose the benefit of under paying them in their prime for the better of the team by overpaying them when they are washed up. If you were going to overpay them on the backend to the team's detriment, you might as well have just paid them what they were worth in their prime and be done with it.
    This is great except for the salary cap thingy....

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    $10M is Iman Shumpert money.
    or danny green money

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    or danny green money
    OK, I laughed.

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    This is great except for the salary cap thingy....
    The salary cap is still in effect. Overpaying Manu (and, for that matter, TP) is hurting us on the cap. See Boban, Diaw.

    My point is that "taking less for the better of the team" is only noble so long as the player does it in perpetuity. It loses its luster if, instead of being content with less for the better of the team, the player is only "content with less . . . for now."

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    The salary cap is still in effect. Overpaying Manu (and, for that matter, TP) is hurting us on the cap. See Boban, Diaw.

    My point is that "taking less for the better of the team" is only noble so long as the player does it in perpetuity. It loses its luster if, instead of being content with less for the better of the team, the player is only "content with less . . . for now."
    Manu counted for 5.5M against a 94M cap. The salary over 5.5M did not affect cap space this summer.

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    wish they would of payed him 10 more mil just to make the fools like OP even more mad

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    Manu counted for 5.5M against a 94M cap. The salary over 5.5M did not affect cap space this summer.
    Please explain this to me. Not a rhetorical question; I am genuinely interested in understanding how a $10M salary only counts as $5.5M on the cap. If it is true that anything over $5.5M does not count against the cap, then by all means pay the man.

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    welcome back gino. he drives sales w jerseys n attendance which doesnt include concessions n down business sales at bars n rest..etc

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    we r just sad/mad cuz it wasnt timmy

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    I feel like I'm sometimes contrarian with you but I feel the opposite. I'm more in awe of what Manu did last year now. If there was no wink-wink 2 year deal agreement (which we now know) then he took a major discount to compete without the promise of being taken care of.

    He wanted to win, thought LMA was worth taking a discount for. This year, with KD saying no, he felt that the team could not reasonably get much better by him taking less so he cashed in. But that was a huge risk for him last year because if he had a career ending injury, he took a lot less with no guarantee of being paid this year.

    Yeah, you are a contrary bas , aren't you? Nah, I'm kidding. You always have good reasons, and I appreciate the different perspective every time.

    Yeah, I guess if he didn't feel pretty sure they were going to pay him later, then he just took a leap of faith to help the team. The whole story about what all they supposedly thought was going to happen this offseason sounds a little fishy. And I'm a little surprised that they thought Manu was going to come back for $3M. I figured he was going to get paid more to make up for last year, but not that much more.

    Anyway, good for Manu for getting paid. And good for the Spurs for not letting him end his career somewhere else. And if there was a wink-wink deal, good for all of them for coming up with a good cover story.


    Manu counted for 5.5M against a 94M cap. The salary over 5.5M did not affect cap space this summer.
    Well Manu definitely deserved at least $5.5M, even by last year's standards. And, yes, he deserved to be paid for taking less last year. So it didn't affect FA signings. Congrats, and welcome back Manu!

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