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Lol. Maybe but Bass a tad bigger and I feel more of a proven vet. Close catch. We all agree they need something besides Bonner.
They did have RFA rights on Boban. They chose not to match Detroit's offer.
If Duncan had played this year, he would have opted out like Manu. Then, the Spurs could have matched the offer to Boban and signed Tim using his Bird Rights to an over the cap deal. No Gasol in that scenario.
Lol. Maybe but Bass a tad bigger and I feel more of a proven vet. Close catch. We all agree they need something besides Bonner.
It just seems now that if Timmy didn't retire, Spurs would have probably brought the same band (incl West, Diaw) along with one stash, so no Gasol....
When we agreed with Gasol, and convinced Dedmon to join us for the RE, that pretty much sealed the deal, I suspect. At that point, if you let go of Manu, you gotta go out there looking for a passable guard with basically no money.
Got it. Thanks.
Makes sense, thanks Nono
Honestly, it just seems like the Spurs bungled this off-season. We just won't know. I mean, the trade was literally, Boban + $7m of other scrubs for Gasol. Is Gasol so much more superior in defense than Boban? Anyway... just ranting... Gasol is good but the team now lacks depth.
The alternative would have been keeping Boban and Diaw while not signing Gasol or any free agent more expensive than Dedmon. You can argue that as a better alternative if you like.
In a way, the ultimate trade off was Boban + Duncan + Diaw for Gasol, and Bertans + dedmon for less than mle
That probably wasn't an option after Pop soured on Bobo. If Bobo was playing to his potential then Boban+Diaw would be much better than Gasol. Boban's real problem was against OKC frontline. But without Durant, OKC isn't compe ive. Bobo and Boban on the other hand could do very well against GSW.
Anyway, water under the bridge. Just a bad off-season.
The off-season that included Duncan's retirement was always going to a bad off-season.
Bingo!
Tell ya what.. If R.C. can get this team to the WCF's with this roster, then he'll buy himself another year. However, this is a put up or shut up year for Kawhi, LMA and KA. There will be no excuses why LMA can lead his team out of the second round of the playoffs or that he's still learning the system, why Leonard isn't taking over as team leader, why KA is totally useless in medium to high leverage situation even though he's a SL super star. There are literally four PG's on the roster, one of which can't play the point, another who's massively declined and is playing international ball which will compromise his seasonal contributions even more, one who's bound destined for Austin and another who's 38 years old. Though If I know how R.C. does business and I think I do, he's in talk with Andre Miller's agent as we speak (as if we needed more scrubs). This seasons gonna be a blast!It's too soon for that, even for you. I mean, Tim officially retired 4 days ago and you're already playing that card? Come on, son... at least give him a couple seasons...
Maybe, but SA really seemed to want Gasol regardless of Tim's decision. Even after SA secured Gasol's commitment, Pop was trying to convince Tim to come back.
It would have meant having to trade someone else to open up the cap room or no Bertans, etc.. But SA seemingly wanted Tim and Gasol.
Agreed and in the context of Tim retiring, I think SA has done an amazing job. It doesn't come without risk (questionable bench talen, thin up front) but it's a great chance at still being a great team while also going younger and developing.
It may crash and burn but I love what SA has done regardless of results; especially since there is no long term hamstringing going on either.
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Buford didn't rule out Matt Bonner returning. #Spurs
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smh. I really might consider tuning out next season. No way I want to see Bonner in a Spurs jersey anymore if Timmy isn't there. So much for younger & athletic.
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What's funny is he said athletic comment after mentioning Bonner...smh.
I would have loved to see that a few years ago.
The problem with Boban was that we all created a fiction that he was going to play for next to nothing for a couple of years, while he improved off the bench. At some level we should have known better, because we were surprised that he had signed for so little when he came here. I saw an article today about the worst contracts of this year's free-agency. A large percentage of them were big men. It was just sort of a perfect storm for the Spurs. To be honest, with Boban getting $7M per year, it's a minor miracle that the Spurs were able to afford Gasol.
Bonner. Rotate through some promising young D leaguers. Spurs grabbing these washed up players like Miller and Martin and holding onto stiffs like Bonner is one reason they're in trouble now.
This Bonner stuff ... troubling.
And this bit about LJC.... hmmm. Could it be a buyout issue? Could ASVEL be turning into the new Vittoria and try to jerk the Spurs around?
Or could it be something else, I wonder ...
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