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    No one is talking about the éléphant in the room.
    $14M is Tony Parker money.
    Bargain in today's market. Or would you rather pay 5 years $153M for Conley?

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    Peter Holt saw this coming and retired, tbh.

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    Peter Holt saw this coming and retired, tbh.
    tbh, how much money would you ask for if you had to make fathead look like an NBA player?

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    tbh, how much money would you ask for if you had to make fathead look like an NBA player?
    I'd retire on that spot. That task can ruin my legacy

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    He cost us Boban.

    Held the Spurs hostage saying he's leaving, so loyal

    14 million for Manure, smh. That's almost as many turnovers as he had in the 2013 finals

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    14 million for Manure, smh. That's almost as many turnovers as he had in the 2013 finals

    Is that better or worse than 3 TO's in the Super Bowl? I'm not sure what the conversion rate is these days.

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    14 million for Manure, smh. That's almost as many turnovers as he had in the 2013 finals
    Not only was that the same amount he got in 2013, but he was also coming off of a long offseason playing in Olympics too

    The fans at Oracle better be ready to catch some terrible bullet passes tbh

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    Don't care about Manu getting paid. Spurs are over the cap so it doesn't matter how much Manu makes. Only wished Duncan could have gotten paid too.

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    HE IS MANU GINOBILI

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    It's funny because he's fat.

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    This is a rebuild year, so his one year contract is no big deal. Would you rather have one of those non stars at 14 million for the next three to four years? Nope and neither do the Spurs. This is a year to see what your bench has and be good enough to see if Spurs can lure a big star next season that's worth the big bucks.

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    The details are here:

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q14

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q38

    In short, teams must account for their own free agents for the purpose of determining available cap space (see the first link). That 'cap hold' is calculated based on their prior salary and status. The Spurs had full Bird Rights on Manu. Bird Rights allow a team to sign a player to any amount up to the maximum salary.

    His cap hold of 5.5M was determined by the formula in the second link. Manu was a Bird's Rights FA, coming off a year in which he was paid less than the average salary. Therefore, his cap hold was 190% of last year's 2.8M+ salary.
    Also, to go along with Mel's great explanation (also, save the links he gave you, that CBA FAQ is the basketball holy grail), Manu's money all counts against the cap - it just doesn't count until AFTER SA has used the cap space (with Manu's cap hold) to sign other FA's.

    The 14M cost 14M, but when determining the cap space SA had to sign other FA's, the 5M cap hold was all that counted if that makes sense.
    Much appreciated, gents. That website is great, Mel. Thanks for sharing those!

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    This is a rebuild year, so his one year contract is no big deal. Would you rather have one of those non stars at 14 million for the next three to four years? Nope and neither do the Spurs. This is a year to see what your bench has and be good enough to see if Spurs can lure a big star next season that's worth the big bucks.
    LMA didn't sign up to be part of a rebuilding project. Gasol didn't leave Chicago so he can spend a year rebuilding in San Antonio. If that's what you think, think again.

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    Whether you like it or not, the Spurs are still relying on Ginobili to be the anchor of the bench, tbh..unless Kyle Anderson has a huge leap, Manu is the #1 guy in the 2nd unit, which makes his salary understandable, even ignoring the other factors..

    For comparison's sake among teams that have a bench anchor(or several):

    Crabbe- 18 mil
    Al Jefferson- 10 mil
    Jamal Crawford- 14 mil
    Tyler Johnson- 12 mil
    Austin Rivers- 12 mil
    Evan Turner- 17.5 mil
    Will Barton- 3.5 mil pre-cap boom
    Iguodala- 12 mil pre-cap boom
    Greg Monroe- 17 mil pre-cap boom
    Rubio?- 14 mil pre-cap boom
    Eric Gordon- 13 mil
    Jeff Green- 15 mil
    Bledsoe or Knight- 14 mil pre-cap boom
    Haven't really been keeping up with FA so I had to google Auscrub Rivers' contract. got 3 yrs/$35 mill.

    Doc has no shame.

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    This is a rebuild year, so his one year contract is no big deal. Would you rather have one of those non stars at 14 million for the next three to four years? Nope and neither do the Spurs. This is a year to see what your bench has and be good enough to see if Spurs can lure a big star next season that's worth the big bucks.
    This.

    Also Manu will be invaluable as a mentor, especially with so many new guards... in the the New Guard.
    The way Manu sees the game, his passion.
    If he can plant those seeds in the minds and hearts of our young players, all the better.

    Murray won't get to play with Duncan. But with Manu as a Yoda, Murray's skills will have a guiding light.
    Even Anderson and Simmons still will lean heavily on Manu's experience.
    It would be too much shock to loose Timmy and Manu at the same time.
    That'd be like tearing your ACL and MCL simultaneously.

    Don't forget Manu is also a star, albeit one in his twilight, he still gets fans excited, generates revenue.

    People are tripping.
    He made 2.9 million last year. Now 14. so... 17/2 = 8.5 for 2 years, not so outrageous.
    But besides all of that..
    Especially with the Wade Fiasco in Miami.

    It shows players... just what sort of character the Spurs Franchise is about. They took care of their pillars, Timmy and now Manu.
    That just adds to the respect other FA will have for SA when considering it as a destination.
    There will be trust.

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    LMA didn't sign up to be part of a rebuilding project. Gasol didn't leave Chicago so he can spend a year rebuilding in San Antonio. If that's what you think, think again.
    Theyll be compe ive, but with that bench, they aren't going to win it all. I think they may struggle to win 50 games. We'll see, but this season I expect a finish around 3 or 4 seed in the west and a second round exit.

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    Manu Ginobili 2016 playoffs:
    6.7ppg, 2.7rpg, 2.5apg, 42.6FG%

    Oh, man.... If Manu won't be as good as THAT.....
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    You need to shut the up... you've always hated Manu so SHUT THE UP. Manu has given up so much money in the past (like TD) so the Spurs could keep the big 3 together and add quality around

    PLEASE SHUT THE UP - I'M ING TIRED OF YOUR BULL

    You are no real Spurs' fan

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    You need to shut the up... you've always hated Manu so SHUT THE UP. Manu has given up so much money in the past (like TD) so the Spurs could keep the big 3 together and add quality around

    PLEASE SHUT THE UP - I'M ING TIRED OF YOUR BULL

    You are no real Spurs' fan

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    Thought this was a joke/troll thread when I read the le.

    It appears I was wrong

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    Thought this was a joke/troll thread when I read the le.

    It appears I was wrong
    Just in case you're near the cliff... it was actually $14m... please step forward...

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    Just in case you're near the cliff... it was actually $14m... please step forward...
    Oh well, didn't have great expectations this year anyway.
    Will be nice to see some of the young guys start to develop hopefully and maybe Kawhi take another step forward.

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    This is how you pay your all timers. A contract that is totally meaningless from a cap perspective or likely a tax perspective.

    Paid for 14 years of being underpaid.

    In the 5% chance he comes back beyond this year, Spurs could sign him to a lesser deal then if space is needed.

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    He cost us Boban.

    Held the Spurs hostage saying he's leaving, so loyal



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    Aldridge didn't know Durant would sign with GS either. I think that has huge reverberations for at least the next two seasons.

    Not saying they are invincible but let's face it we're counting on health issues anyway to see them lose a series out West.

    Furthermore I legitimately believe this is Ginobili's last ride, which is why we are hearing 'thank you contract' bandied about.

    Now that Duncan is officially out, the front office is more likely to treat the rest of the players on a per season basis, meaning it will be how useful will you be for us going forward, not let's hang on to this guy for sentiment sake.

    My prediction is Ginobili is done in 2017. Parker finishes his two years and he is gonzo in 2018, ie finishes his career in another uniform.

    Now he could produce at an alarmingly effective rate which would negate the FO from cutting the cord...but how likely is that...tbh.

    2019 playoffs Leonard will be 28 and approaching the height of his power. The Spurs simply need to attract another beast level force for that season and he, Kawhi, and LMA can take the franchise on its 6th championship Riverwalk parade.

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