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Rich getting richer. Definitely looks like GS got a steal in McCaw.
Those deserving of contracts and training camp slots based on their effort and play in SL (not including Simmons and Anderson) are: Arcidiacono, Forbes, Murray, and Lalanne (gets the nod over LJC for me, although LJC needs Austin Toros work). Bertans will be there, too, of course. Stokes played pretty well but he might get more opportunity elsewhere.
Rich getting richer. Definitely looks like GS got a steal in McCaw.
TWolves' 3rd string PG, Tyus Jones taking over the SL.
26pts, 4reb, 10ast, 9-15fg
They're definitely not giving up Dieng for Patty Mills.
I know we haven't seen a lot out of LJC, but in the limited looks we've had he didn't inspire a lot of confidence. Lalanne has been sort of forgotten here. Like Stokes, he's another one of those young underdog types that I would love to see get a payday somewhere. They both bring a lot of energy, and that's always a plus. Maybe one of them can develop into one of those sparkplug players who come off the bench and get a couple of put-backs, rip a few boards away, and give the team some momentum. I could see at least one of them getting invited to camp. But I have a hard time seeing either one on the roster - and it's a shame.
LJC? I'd sleep better knowing that he has a place with Asvel, and that everybody was happy with that.
Asvel has pretty much ruined LJC. I never want to see another Spur go back there. I think he would have benefitted from being part of the SL team the whole way through. I didn't see his first stint yesterday, but it I guess it was horrible. His second stint was meh. This third stint was actually good. Put him around guys who are actually looking to run plays, and he'll be good. I actually thought he looked better yesterday than he looked last year.
I won't be surprised. He showed promise during the 2013 Nike Hoop Summit. But when he joined ASVEL, he's been going downhill ever since. His injury also didn't help matters.
There was nothing stopping LJC from playing on a better Euro team than Asvel... like Real Madrid, Barcelona, CSKA, etc.... the only reason would be that he just wasn't that good.
Um, I mean, he signed a three-year deal with them on the Spurs' request after he was drafted. It's not like you just get to switch teams in the middle of your contract because you've improved. Not that LJC played all that well, mind you. It's just not a valid point to talk about him upgrading from Asvel, in my opinion.
Yeah, he tore his ACL like two weeks after getting drafted. That probably wouldn't've changed no matter where he signed. But between the rehab and being caught between positions, I don't think he was developed well at all. I think it's possible the Spurs don't pick up his option if he signed in the NBA right away. But had they stuck with him, I think he would have been a much better player than he is at this point.
That actually happens all the time in Europe. It's pretty common to have buyout clauses and NBA out clauses. Teams like Madrid or Barcelona that have the cash gladly pay them to acquire top talent. Teams over there don't wait for "free agency" like the NBA.
Heck, I'm sure the Spurs would've loved him to play in a more compe ive league.
I remember when he tore it. I was following him. He was playing for the national team for his age group and he was dominating, and then he subsequently tore his acl. I felt really bad for him. Some players lose the magic and never get it back.
If the Lakers lose with this practical starting lineup I'm gonna :rofl
Yes I know this. Did LJC have Europe buyouts? I kinda doubt it. His stashing was an experiment for a psuedo-farm team in Europe. I think it was Spurs or bust for him.
Gotta work his way back in an organization that will take care of him. There were dudes in this past draft who were older than him. He still has time.I remember when he tore it. I was following him. He was playing for the national team for his age group and he was dominating, and then he subsequently tore his acl. I felt really bad for him. Some players lose the magic and never get it back.
It's possible. Something I didn't know but I thought was interesting, so I'll share: There's no anti-tampering laws between leagues. Not even in the NBA-FIBA agreement. Imposing such restriction at an international level would likely be construed as an an rust violation. That's why every team (this applies to soccer too) pretty much always sets a high buyout amount as compensation in case the player is enticed by another team/league.
100%, was just going to post something similar. It's a lot more like soccer.
And ASVEL might have taken the money. Doesn't Parker have an ownership stake? He can't afford keep a nightclub open, he probably wasn't in position to bail the club out of any money troubles.
Oh yeah definitely. He has the physical tools. Imo it's confidence he need more of.
FWIW, here's the full paragraph, extracted from "Handbook on international sports law" on the NBA-FIBA agreement:
The agreement, unlike NBA internal rules, contains no anti-tampering prohibition. That is, it does not proscribe communication between a team and a foreign player about future employment while that player is performing for another employer under an existing contract. Presumably, that omission is deliberate and reflects that the strongest justification for tampering rules - the prevention of the existence or appearance of a conflict of interest within a league - does not apply in a situation of inter-league agreement. Indeed, it's doubtful that a persuasive rationale can be supplied for an international tampering rule, which inhibits negotiations during the tenure of a player's contract. And such rule, which shifts, in a way detrimental to players, the line implicitly drawn by existing contract (and tort) law between constraint and freedom to pursue employment opportunities would likely cons ute an an rust violation.
I was under that impression also but don't remember why, probably some article posted here years ago.
But fwiw, this site has a scouting report on him seemingly pre draft:
http://euroleagueadventures.com/the-...-jean-charles/
He was already with ASVEL and apparently was re-upped pre-draft.Projected as a high-to-mid-secound round draft pick, Jean-Charles still might stay stashed away for a few years in Europe if chosen. He just resigned a four-year contract with ASVEL and has a bright future in front of him.
Maybe I'm remembering people speculating that drafting him was a way of funneling buyout money to Parker and that was the controversy. Don't really remember.
LJC needs the Austin experience and closer tutelage with Ken McDonald and the Spurs staff, as available.
European teams can totally put into contracts that players can only get buyouts to go to the NBA. Like I wouldn't be surprised if Bertans had such a buyout. I don't know if the NBA can restrict players from leaving one Euro team to go to another, but within Euro, that protection is there, and it may have been present with Asvel.
I really think he needs a shot. He's an athlete but he's stuck in that Jeff Ayers type of athletic big who has no shooting range whatsoever. In LJC case is even more noticeable bc he's an athletic wing in reality in terms of body type and athleticism. Cady and him looked about the same last summer, but Cady is a lot stronger now, not much taller, but he looks bigger. LJC is like an athletic wing. He could have developed the shot anywhere. He has maybe this season to work on that.
He played small-ball center in the last game, which I found interesting. He's probably too small to play there now in the NBA. But that seems to project him as a big and not a combo-forward. His shot is interesting. Like right before he was drafted, there was talk that his three was coming along. Then he got hurt and was out the first year. The second year, we hear his shot is horrible. Then he comes over to the summer league and misses everything but looks good doing it. Then last year, he says that his shot is looking good again. And I apparently missed some really awesome jumper he made a couple of games ago. I just don't know what it all means.
There's no such protection, inter-league, in Europe. That's because there's no anti-tampering laws inter-league. That's exactly why Euro players get huge buyout amounts stapled to their contracts when they sign them, because a Real Madrid can come around and entice a player, and the player can simply demand to be moved. The buyout is the compensation for the other team when that situation happens. Works exactly like soccer. Top teams like Real Madrid or Barcelona pay such buyout amounts all the time (both in basketball and soccer).
I don't think you're drawing the right conclusions. If a guy is playing for let's say LK Baskonia and Real Madrid wants him, LK Baskonia doesn't have to let him go. "Demanding to be moved" doesn't mean anything. If you don't have a buyout in your deal, you're stuck there unless you negotiate one. I have no idea why you think otherwise.
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