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    ERRONEOUS....ERRONEOUS ON ALL COUNTS!

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    So you were wrong and FIBA didn't bar him for suing his team over a contractual dispute, correct?
    I never said he couldn't sue. Not once. What I said was that I don't agree with your belief that the player would breeze through court. In fact, I made reference to lawsuits multiple times in my rebuttals.

    And absolutely it's "recouping damages".
    Yeah, no. They didn't WANT Rubio to stay. They wanted that money from him. They got their money.

    They wouldn't get 1% of that on a court of law over that dispute.
    I don't know what they'd get. You know sure as it wouldn't be decided on in court until FIBA made their ruling. Even your article says the outcome could go either way. You're misrepresenting the player's leverage no matter what.

    I feel like I'm repeating myself here
    You are. I imagine at this point, it's just going to be like that for both of us.

    but buyout clauses in Europe are huge because once the player wants to leave, it's inevitable.
    Illogical. The clauses are huge to discourage players from leaving. If Barca doesn't bail Rubio out, he spends three years at his old club and leaves once the Wolves offer him enough to make his buyout. If teams were simply trying to get money, it behooves them to not have buyouts so big that the player sues them. Mind you, this is easily a bigger issue for the NBA where teams are capped in their contributions.

    It's not uncommon at all that buyout clauses exceed contract value by many factors. It's the team "insurance" if you will over losing top talent.
    Eh, it's been a way for teams to earn money for 30 years now. I think you're kidding yourself if you think the teams giving up Rubio aren't dancing in their windfalls.

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    Any news on if Bertans is playing today?

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    does anybody think ljc is an NBA talent?

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    does anybody think ljc is an NBA talent?
    Depends on how much of his performance is physical and now much is mental.

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    He looked like last year too.
    I disagree, he had a few impressive games in the beginning.

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    This is what Chinook is kind of saying. When he was drafted he had shown potential, but it's like he hibernated. The season before this last one he barely played. Basically between the injury and the season he barely played, those were two years of his development as a player that went
    Bertans had a similar injury (in fact he had it twice!), but you can see that Bertans has a lot more fight in him.

    LJC supposedly outplayed all the lottery picks in his draft, yet for some reason he didn't excel in France.

    The oddest thing of all is that Spurs still want him in the team! What do they see that we are all missing?

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    Bertans had a similar injury (in fact he had it twice!), but you can see that Bertans has a lot more fight in him.

    LJC supposedly outplayed all the lottery picks in his draft, yet for some reason he didn't excel in France.

    The oddest thing of all is that Spurs still want him in the team! What do they see that we are all missing?
    They see size. That thing you can't teach. They see a prospect to develop. Remember mahinimi? Did you call for Ian to be cut before training camp? How about nando, cojo, etc?

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    Bertans had a similar injury (in fact he had it twice!), but you can see that Bertans has a lot more fight in him.

    LJC supposedly outplayed all the lottery picks in his draft, yet for some reason he didn't excel in France.

    The oddest thing of all is that Spurs still want him in the team! What do they see that we are all missing?
    Bertans has always been a shooter, and he's gotten better at what he already did well. He is not very good at anything else and that was the same a few years ago, but so long as he has one elite thing he can do well he can have a role.

    LJC was a sort of energy player with a lot of defensive potential, blocking shots and making athletic defensive plays. He needed to add something to his offensive repertoire and hasn't. Defensively, he needs training which he will get in training camp.

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    does anybody think ljc is an NBA talent?
    if he can play like Clint Capela will have been worth

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    They see size. That thing you can't teach. They see a prospect to develop. Remember mahinimi? Did you call for Ian to be cut before training camp? How about nando, cojo, etc?
    Ian Mahinmi looked really good in his first summer league. He shut down Demarcus Cousins.

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    Bertans has always been a shooter, and he's gotten better at what he already did well. He is not very good at anything else and that was the same a few years ago, but so long as he has one elite thing he can do well he can have a role.

    LJC was a sort of energy player with a lot of defensive potential, blocking shots and making athletic defensive plays. He needed to add something to his offensive repertoire and hasn't. Defensively, he needs training which he will get in training camp.
    Energy guy?! Livo "Low Joules" Jean-Charles, are we talking about the same guy here?

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    Will today's game be televised?

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    This right here. The Spurs would be smart to start developing some of these kids in Austin over Europe. Especially ASVEL. I wish we would have developed Milutinov in Austin over Europe. Get an NBA game.
    You hit the nail on the head. I think these overseas prospects would have way better development on our dleague team. The problem I believe is the money. Those kids rather make 6 figures overseas in the interim then play for 35k in the dleague.

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    Energy guy?! Livo "Low Joules" Jean-Charles, are we talking about the same guy here?
    He will need to increase that.as you remember he had better games last SL.

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    Awfully quiet on the news front for having a game in 10 minutes...

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    Will today's game be televised?
    NBATV and ESPN 3

    Edit: not live on NBATV.

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    ESPN 3 should have it

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    Oh hype, Bertans!

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    bertans in

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    Bertans playing it's over. At least five threes

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    Bertans playing it's over. At least five threes
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