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    Lorbek looks like a hopeless divorcee who should be sitting on his sofa eating TV dinners, letting his belly hang out shamelessly because, hey, who's going to watch?

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    Bertans looks like Bonner with better movement, a quicker jumpshot, a brain, and athleticism.

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    And Bertans has another 28 footer rim out at the buzzer.
    Almost all of his 3 point attempts have been really deep.

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    He hit one from about 28 feet in rhythm
    Damn I missed that

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    He's so much faster and quicker than I expected him to be. His jumper looks good. He hit one from about 28 feet in rhythm, and he's fighting for rebounds. He sets good screens, though he pops every time, and he has better hands than I expected.
    Everything I have seen of Bertans up until today had me seeing this from him. Moves very well without the ball. Has a fast and smooth release with his J. I have high expectations of him these two seasons with the Spurs. Dont feel he will disappoint off the bench.

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    didn't even know they played today. watching it at work

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    Lorbek looks like a hopeless divorcee who should be sitting on his sofa eating TV dinners, letting his belly hang out shamelessly because, hey, who's going to watch?
    Spot on. I kinda feel sorry for him.

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    Almost all of his 3 point attempts have been really deep.
    I guess he's stepping further back to make the pass easier for the guard.

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    I think people in this forum expecting much from Murray or Bertans this year are going to be extremely let down. Murray is talented but very raw. His best attribute is getting to the basket but he's an awful shooter and plays wild. It's not a good wild either. If he's not doing something for himself he's not doing it wholeheartedly. He's like the WR in football that doesn't run complete routes or get in engaged on a play unless the play is called for him.

    Stick a pin in the guy, let him develop in the D-League and check back in a year, maybe two. As for the other prospects - Bertans has been unimpressive and so has LVC. Bertans looks like Bonner with better movement.
    Murray is heading to the D-league... his game doesn't translate well with the NBA or what the Spurs need to get done.

    Betrans will be in the regular rotation. I also expect Forbes to be in it too. Spurs just need those role players who know where to spot up in case guys like Leonard are in a bind.

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    Rodriguez is an amazing player. I just start to think that he's terrible and dumb, and then he does something incredible.

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    Everything I have seen of Bertans up until today had me seeing this from him. Moves very well without the ball. Has a fast and smooth release with his J. I have high expectations of him these two seasons with the Spurs. Dont feel he will disappoint off the bench.
    Kyle Korver clone... should be good enough. Glad he was signed.

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    I think people in this forum expecting much from Murray or Bertans this year are going to be extremely let down. Murray is talented but very raw. His best attribute is getting to the basket but he's an awful shooter and plays wild. It's not a good wild either. If he's not doing something for himself he's not doing it wholeheartedly. He's like the WR in football that doesn't run complete routes or get in engaged on a play unless the play is called for him.

    Stick a pin in the guy, let him develop in the D-League and check back in a year, maybe two. As for the other prospects - Bertans has been unimpressive and so has LVC. Bertans looks like Bonner with better movement.
    How's his defense?

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    Murray is heading to the D-league... his game doesn't translate well with the NBA or what the Spurs need to get done.

    Betrans will be in the regular rotation. I also expect Forbes to be in it too. Spurs just need those role players who know where to spot up in case guys like Leonard are in a bind.
    There's little doubt looking at Murray that he's got NBA potential. The real question at this point is if he buys into the Spurs' system. I can see him getting into the rotation sooner than later, but I can also see him playing out his contract in Austin.

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    How's his defense?
    Not great, but he's trying. He needs more discipline, but I can understand he's probably got some extra adrenaline pumping right now.

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    I think Bertans has much better finishing capability than a Bonner or Korver. Dude can throw it down. Really want to see him in some fast break situations.

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    How's his defense?
    He moves well, keeps his hands up, and he's smart. He may not dominate anyone with his defense, but teams won't be licking their chops when they see him check in.

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    There's little doubt looking at Murray that he's got NBA potential. The real question at this point is if he buys into the Spurs' system. I can see him getting into the rotation sooner than later, but I can also see him playing out his contract in Austin.
    He's got good length and good moves. He's just not ready though for the bigger faster and more cerebral NBA game. Austin for a year, just like what Cojo did.

    I seriously don't expect him to see the court in the NBA next year.

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    someone tell murray to PASS the ball ffs

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    He has had about two weeks roughly with the coaching staff in summer league. Has terrific potential. Training camp and mid season will tell you a lot at how quickly he adapts to the Spurs System.

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    There's little doubt looking at Murray that he's got NBA potential. The real question at this point is if he buys into the Spurs' system. I can see him getting into the rotation sooner than later, but I can also see him playing out his contract in Austin.
    Yeah, you want to talk about a diamond in the rough. He's already got some natural skills that most players won't be able to touch after years of work *cough* Danny Green's handles *cough*.
    But there is so much to refine.

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    Kyle Korver clone... should be good enough. Glad he was signed.
    taller and athletic Kyle Korver

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    Not great, but he's trying. He needs more discipline, but I can understand he's probably got some extra adrenaline pumping right now.
    He moves well, keeps his hands up, and he's smart. He may not dominate anyone with his defense, but teams won't be licking their chops when they see him check in.
    Then, he's already an upgrade over prime Bonner.

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    ESPN 3 should have it
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    Bertans is no stiff. He can move and he moves pretty fluidly, for his size.

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    Nice drive and kick by LJC.

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