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Now, is wapo and the nytimes left leaning in your opinion? It may be our relative environment. Like I said to Blue I live in Texas and have been called a raving liberal. And by self proclaimed socialists as conservative.
After the apology, I'd have to actually agree with the OP, at least, the merits of his assertion. She definitely felt the pinch.
Usa today.
Now, is wapo and the nytimes left leaning in your opinion? It may be our relative environment. Like I said to Blue I live in Texas and have been called a raving liberal. And by self proclaimed socialists as conservative.
Advertisement is about trying to garner votes. You aren't going to to buy new votes advertising to the liberal base. You target independents.
Your logic still sucks.
Here is mediamatters claim that the site is biased against the dems:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/11...se-bill/201717But those outside groups might not need to when they have the right-wing echo chamber doing their dirty tricks for them and Politico to amplify their smears.
Here is their page detailing all the articles they see ar right leaning: http://mediamatters.org/networks-and...itico?p=1&s=15
Then of course there is the other side.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/bu...ugh-of-that-d/
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/02/un...traffic-dives/During that same period, and perhaps not coincidentally, Politico has come under sustained criticism from many observers, including Fox News Channel anchors and several prominent radio hosts, for exhibiting liberal bias in its news stories.
When both sides are complaining then I see it as a good deal. Think whatever bull you like.
I think NYT is all over the place, how you can say that when their editorials are as they are is amusing. WaPo has been labeled as liberal ever since Woodward and Bernstein saw Nixon resign. I know that the Washington Times was created because they thought the Post wasn't conservative enough. I don't really have a sense of their articles nowadays because I don't read either; however, I do think that the Puritanism of the US right causes some delusions about anything that is not them.
If you want an example of a liberal publications I think of the New Yorker, the LA Times, Rolling Stone, or the New Republic.
calling WashingtonHitlerPost liberal
They tore Bernie to shreds every single day and idolized Hailary
It's all relative. Bezos hates Trump.
They tore Bernie to shreds every single day and idolized Hailary
Out of those, only the New Republic has enough meat and covers enough stories at the same time. I don't consider the LA Times near the National and International level of the coverage as other large city Newspaper Wapo or Nytimes. And yes I would consider those liberal but would only read the New Republic to keep up, unless I was really interested in one particular story (then rolling stone and New Yorker)
Love the NY times and it's definitely liberal overall. Absolutely.
Last edited by pgardn; 07-14-2016 at 09:56 PM.
Total Bull .Advertisement is about trying to garner votes. You aren't going to to buy new votes advertising to the liberal base. You target independents.
Your logic still sucks.
Here is mediamatters claim that the site is biased against the dems:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/11...se-bill/201717
Here is their page detailing all the articles they see ar right leaning: http://mediamatters.org/networks-and...itico?p=1&s=15
Then of course there is the other side.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/bu...ugh-of-that-d/
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/02/un...traffic-dives/
When both sides are complaining then I see it as a good deal. Think whatever bull you like.
To garner votes are you Fckn kidding? Most of the ads were about giving CAMPAIGN MONEY to Bernie or HILLARY. I think people are mostly decided, ESPECIALLY this election.
Are you with Hillary, then give, are you with Bernie, then... You clearly have not paid attention. And yep I think ads and content tend to follow each other. Absolutely I do. And I think your ignorance concerning advertising is revealing.
Last edited by pgardn; 07-14-2016 at 09:57 PM.
First of all you ignored the rest of my post so we can conclude that outside of your head, both sides complain about bias indicating a central lean. You also ignored where all political leanings were represented in the audience to just repeat your same drivel.
As for your most recent stupidity your claiming that an ad attacking Trump isn't about getting votes for Hillary but instead a fundraising attempt? You're an idiot and I'm done with this convo as well. Think whatever you'd like.
This was ONE Fckn example TODAY. Just because you laughed at my assessment of "liberal leaning" TODAY.
Fuzzy you purposely try to distort. And you know I am far from stupid.
Many of the other ads were about contributing CAMPAIGN MONEY. Which totally escaped you because you don't read the thing as much as I do. And how can you be sure and how do you know I'm being genuine? Because I am telling you what I saw as ads this entire campaign season. And yes I stand by the opinion that it is a left leaning site.
I hope this will not ruin our close and loving relationship. But if you wish ditch me, what can I do? Be done with me sir.
The actual audience, objective claims of bias from 3rd party sources, and actual content reported are inferior to unsubstantiated personal anecdotes about advertisements?
Think what you like but you have no real basis.
From on the guy who believes RT news and wishes he was in Putin's underwear.
They tore Bernie to shreds every single day and idolized Hailary
No, they tore Trump to shreds EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Why no ads for Republican candidates?
Why? When you say unsubstantiated you basically are saying you don't believe me. I have looked at that site consistently and I am telling you the truth. As I have said before to a number of other posters I don't lie about these things as I have no reason to. Actual content reported... And this is somehow objective? This is all opinion.
Your OPINION poll and my OPINION show basically the same thing. Left leaning Democrat.
You act as if I am some crazed reactionary.
And comparing me to CC...
And fuzz of of course I am going to think what I like because of what I have observed and read. As I have said before we may start in an entirely different frame of reference which would hardly be surprising in this kind of discussion.
Drop me if you must fuzz, but I think behind that self described ornery disposition, I think you would still take me to the prom.
Your personal anecdotes does not encompass all the ads they display. How about an independent source that corroborates your claim. Just one.
I never posted an opinion poll. I chowed the party affiliations of the site as well as both liberal and conservatives who claimed it was biased. Both sides complained meaning that both sides were represented.
And you still cannot address the actual production of the site. Youre just being pigheaded.
It's hardly some radically bizarre opinion and you basically know this.
Still nothing to corroborate your opinion. One source supporting your assertion about ads. I've already demonstrated how the audience is diverse with no affiliation over 35%.
Heck yes it's diverse.
Because it's a good read.
so conservatives, democrats, and independents read it fairly equally. It's been criticised by partisans of both sides of being biased. You cannot come up with any shred of biased reporting evidence. But its liberal because of the ads you see anecdotally?
That is asinine.
No.
Wrong.
Imo it is left leaning, as is the NY times (you claim is all over the place) Both of these sites have editorials that go both ways. But in general, the articles are left leaning. I am not going to go through every single article and rate it, tabulate as to how far right or left and then give you a frkn number. I could right now, just like I did with the ad on the front page, take an article and dissect it and say here ya go, why not state it this way. I could also do the same for an article I think is more conservative from that same Politico edition. In general, I would find a left lean. That's my opinion.
You think this is some sort of science? Like we take these articles and study them and label them with some rock hard number? Don't be silly. This is not a GD science. , it's not even close to as good as the study of economics. It's a GD OPINION silly boy. And yes the advertising tells me something about my OPINION. So yes most certainly imo, left leaning. I looked up nothing about ratings of this magazine from other sites or people. Nothing. I leave it to you to do that and use your scale.
But realize there is no accurate Fuzz-Lump Simpson Scale of political leanings. Get off it.
And yes, I still love you.
Last edited by pgardn; 07-15-2016 at 10:39 PM.
Not all opinions are created equal. Your welcome to think what you like but you are all alone out there.
Who said anything about science? How about logic, rationalism, or an informed opinion? You think what you see is all there is. No one else sees it.
ads determine political leaning.
Then you are clearly NOT using logic nor listening to a rational opinion.Not all opinions are created equal. Your welcome to think what you like but you are all alone out there.
Who said anything about science? How about logic, rationalism, or an informed opinion? You think what you see is all there is. No one else sees it.
Advertising definitely apart of assessing and you are completely silly if you don't think so.
You think the NRA would do advertising on FOX or MSNBC?
Begging the question is not an argument. We've already determined the audience demographics, remember?
Politico has a Liberty Mutual and Home Depot ad up now. Must mean they support the insurance and homebuilder industries. . . . .
Bud Light and AT&T
They are alcoholic phonehounds now.
Compare and contrast with Fox News which has 6 times as many GOP viewers to dem.
It's very similar to your 'neutral' USA Today.
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