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    yeah I did, but he's just as bad as Parker. It's basically a debate over who hurts us the most.
    It's a terrible debate to have to have.

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    Assuming your calculation is based on avoiding luxury tax. Boban was worth a little bit of luxury tax. Spurs cheaped out. And Boban's contract would've been great for year two, which is realistically what the Spurs should be shooting for in a mini rebuild.
    No, they literally didn't have room for those two plus Boban of signing Pau. As ceperez mentioned, it was really Pau or Boban. I'll happily take Dedmon over Boban, who is unplayable against good pick and roll teams.

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    I like Boban, he looked like a cool dude... that said, even Pop worried about fans treating him like a freakshow more than a professional basketball player last season.

    I wish him the best in Detroit (except when they play us)... Is Baynes still there? If the Baynes/Boban frontcourt own us, the meltdown here will be hilarious

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    I'm still in disbelieve that we're paying a 39 year old injury proned turnover machine $14 million. Is this really happening?

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    No, they literally didn't have room for those two plus Boban of signing Pau. As ceperez mentioned, it was really Pau or Boban. I'll happily take Dedmon over Boban, who is unplayable against good pick and roll teams.
    I wasn't arguing room. I was saying pay some luxury tax. Sometimes, you have to bite the bullet. Mark Cuban cheaped out on not resigning Chandler after 11 and the Mavs went in the tank.

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    I wasn't arguing room. I was saying pay some luxury tax. Sometimes, you have to bite the bullet. Mark Cuban cheaped out on not resigning Chandler after 11 and the Mavs went in the tank.
    Luxury tax doesn't enter the picture at all in this scenario.

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    Luxury tax doesn't enter the picture at all in this scenario.
    Then sign him.

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    cannot do if you wanted Gasol, Bertrans, etc... all players that were not on the Spurs last season, so they had to be signed with cap. You use that on them or Boban. Spurs chose them.

    Anyways, that's what they were trying to tell you.

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    It's possible that if they would've rescinded Manu's cap hold, the Spurs would've had the money though. I think there was talk about that, but somebody else can chime in on that.

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    cannot do if you wanted Gasol, Bertrans, etc... all players that were not on the Spurs last season, so they had to be signed with cap. You use that on them or Boban. Spurs chose them.

    Anyways, that's what they were trying to tell you.
    I understand what you're trying to say in terms of limitations. I just don't understand if those limitations exist. Can teams not go over the cap any more? That'd defy my understanding.

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    I understand what you're trying to say in terms of limitations. I just don't understand if those limitations exist. Can teams not go over the cap any more? That'd defy my understanding.
    They can go over to sign players they have bird rights for. In order to get bird rights on a player, the player must have been with the team for at least 3 years. So, they didn't have bird rights for Boban, thus he could've only been signed with cap space.

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    Which would you rather have:

    Player that takes 2 years to reach MVP level or
    Player that take 5 years?
    Neither of them have won Euroleague MVP, so I've no idea what you're talking about. Do you mean domestic leagues MVPs?

    I'd take the much better player - Tiago.

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    I think the frustration at seeing Boban go is that he seemed to have a lot of potential and we never really got to see where he could have taken this team if given more minutes. I think there's a certain amount of fear he's gonna go somewhere else and dominate.
    I have that feeling. I think D west coming over in his ring chase put Pop in a bind. He had committed to play D west and was developing Boban for the future. The report is that they wanted and had planned to resign him. You are right we,never got to see how that would look like. On with the season though

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    Neither of them have won Euroleague MVP, so I've no idea what you're talking about. Do you mean domestic leagues MVPs?

    I'd take the much better player - Tiago.
    They both made All-Euroleague 1st team once.

    Boban was better in year 1 of the NBA than Splitter was in his respective first year. Boban has also been much more durable. I'll let their careers play out before I anoint either.

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    I will miss Boban ... he brought excitement to the game and with the slim championship chances a little excitment would not have been a bad thing

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    They can go over to sign players they have bird rights for. In order to get bird rights on a player, the player must have been with the team for at least 3 years. So, they didn't have bird rights for Boban, thus he could've only been signed with cap space.
    Interesting. Well, as I mentioned before, I would've kept Boban and passed on Pau. Though, I'd admit for this year, Pau could be the better option.

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    Didn't see this posted. I still think Spurs made the right decision.

    How the 76ers cost the Spurs Boban.
    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/ho...160517258.html

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    Interesting. Well, as I mentioned before, I would've kept Boban and passed on Pau. Though, I'd admit for this year, Pau could be the better option.
    That's a totally fair assessment (Boban over Pau), though as you say you're sacrificing any chance you had this year - as small as it might be. Manu may not have come back if not for replacing Duncan with Pau either.

    We'll just agree to disagree on Boban. He's fine as a backup big but his defense on PnR will always keep him off the floor in big games. Offensively, he's been a beast but wonder how he impacts a defense against non-scrub lineups. Will be interesting to see how SvG brings him along. No better coach than him. Boban as a guy off the bench for Drummond makes hack a impossible.

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    That's a totally fair assessment (Boban over Pau), though as you say you're sacrificing any chance you had this year - as small as it might be. Manu may not have come back if not for replacing Duncan with Pau either.

    We'll just agree to disagree on Boban. He's fine as a backup big but his defense on PnR will always keep him off the floor in big games. Offensively, he's been a beast but wonder how he impacts a defense against non-scrub lineups. Will be interesting to see how SvG brings him along. No better coach than him. Boban as a guy off the bench for Drummond makes hack a impossible.
    If that impacted Manu's decison, I'd have to maybe rethink it. My best guess would be that Manu wanted to come back, even if it wasn't with the Spurs at $18 mil.

    I could be wrong on Boban. I have concerns about his lateral movement just like anyone else. But I think I saw enough to know how he can impact a ball game in ways nobody else can.

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    Didn't see this posted. I still think Spurs made the right decision.

    How the 76ers cost the Spurs Boban.
    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/ho...160517258.html
    Pau could've taken a mil less to sign Boban. Sad.

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