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    i can see why it would make sense, but i have my doubts that dedmon can play starters minutes at this stage... too foul prone

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    I don't know how you can be legit in stating that when Kyle started games for both Tim and Kawhj and was a regular rotation player which Simmons was not. If anything a great majority of Simmons time was against benches and garbage time games. It was precisely defensive deficiencies and fouling that got him on the deep end of the bench.
    Pop routinely sent Simmons after the best offensive player on defense to spell Danny and Kawhi. Anderson was routinely the garbage minute star. He constantly closed out games. Your fan goggles Are on a little tight if you don't remember that.

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    Bertans has always been a wing. He moves like a wing too. Have the spurs given any intention to play him at the 4? I missed something, as most of spurstalk seems to have him pegged as a 4 when he's always been a 3.
    He was played as a 4 in SL. I tend to think, based on players interviews that I cited above and observations, that a lot of the stuff seen in SL is a practice, players working on deficiencies and some really experimental stuff that may or may not materialize and in some cases would take years to materialize as players would need to earn roles in the team and are subservient to what the team needs or others ahead of them in a rotation. What that means for Bertans is that Pop will play him where they need him and not where he's best at. It sucks sometimes. He does play like a wing. Pop playing him as a 4 might have been experimental but it's at least something they are considering if they had him play that spot.

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    Pop routinely sent Simmons after the best offensive player on defense to spell Danny and Kawhi. Anderson was routinely the garbage minute star. He constantly closed out games. Your fan goggles Are on a little tight if you don't remember that.
    Here you are not being honest. Simmons was getting trained for his alleged defensive potential so he was assigned difficult matches to learn. He couldn't handle them so he was benched often. But so was Anderson getting trained, who leveraged his length quick hands and savvy and proved a better defender than Simmons on any guy who was not a tiny guard. He actually switched often. Anderson and guarded all sorts of wings from Durant, Wiggins, Stephenson, many others. If Simmons was better he would have been in the playoffs that is simple. I think you are the one who are really being dishonest here, I just don't feel like digging stuff up or stat to argue this.

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    Yeah, I'm thinking they want basically an athletic Thiago... low-key, blue-collar guy that complements LMA's weaknesses defensively, while gets out of the way offensively.

    Although, I gotta say, I'm not sure if Pau wouldn't start, as suggested, but I can see Pop doing this thing where Pau starts and plays for 5 mins, then plays the bulk of time with the bench + maybe closing out games.

    People that aren't excited about all this stuff next season, need to wake up, IMO.
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    Perhaps this is the most feasible.

    Pau Gasol starts, helps sets the tone with his passing and high basketball IQ, gets an early rest, then comes in with the majority of the bench while Aldridge rests.

    So that, in essence, both Gasol and Aldridge are present in the game at all times? For the needed scoring punch.

    Just a thought.

    Anyway, while waiting for the real games to begin, let's enjoy some nice music once in while fellas.

    (WE HAVE EXHAUSTED ALL TOPICS, hahahahahahahaha)


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    Reviewing Dedmon:


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    Im rooting for dedmon.undrafted ,bounced around the nba and d-league maybe get some steady run here

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    Strictly speaking we need another big. Who is the back up for Lamarcus?

    Bertans is a shooting forward, Kyle is a point forward, we need another big who can rebound and defend.....

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    For what it is worth, Pau didn't like coming off the bench at all for the Lakers when Mike D'Antoni couldn't figure out how to use Howard and Pau at the same time. Now granted that was 3 or 4 years ago (can't remember) and in an already terrible situation. Pau may have matured and a selfless team like the Spurs surely is a more conducive environment for sacrifice than Kobe-me land. Still, Pau's history shows benching did not sit well with him.

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    I hope Dedmon does not become this years Mahinmi.

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    He doesn't seem to be 7'0" as advertised.

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    Problem with Dedmon starting is that, Spurs will lack passing. That was the problem also last season, but replacing Duncan with Dedmon just makes it worse.

    Honestly, Spurs offense has sucked ever since Messina got on board. It has been crap for 2 years in a row. I don't know what happened, it was like Spurs perfected the offense in 2014 and then all of a sudden GSW steals it.

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    Dedmon remember Whiteside, I hope it works

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    For what it is worth, Pau didn't like coming off the bench at all for the Lakers when Mike D'Antoni couldn't figure out how to use Howard and Pau at the same time. Now granted that was 3 or 4 years ago (can't remember) and in an already terrible situation. Pau may have matured and a selfless team like the Spurs surely is a more conducive environment for sacrifice than Kobe-me land. Still, Pau's history shows benching did not sit well with him.
    He forced Noah to the bench in Chicago when Noahs best asset is defense usually a big a coach would like to start. It was said that Noah covering up for Paul wore him down but that might be gossip. A fast paced tempo inn the bench is not ideal for Gasol and as I pointed out if Pop was looking for a bench post scorer they already had Boban.
    The truth might be somewhere in the middle: some time with the starters and some with the bench. But the more I consider it. It might be gossip from someone from the coaching staff, maybe even a video guy. When players gave interviews saying they didn't know what roles they would be playing in training camp, that stuff is really up in the air.

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    Problem with Dedmon starting is that, Spurs will lack passing. That was the problem also last season, but replacing Duncan with Dedmon just makes it worse.

    Honestly, Spurs offense has sucked ever since Messina got on board. It has been crap for 2 years in a row. I don't know what happened, it was like Spurs perfected the offense in 2014 and then all of a sudden GSW steals it.
    I agree on the passing. I think it's precisely why Pop wanted Gasol IMO.

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    He only played 13 min a season in a organization with very little iden y. I wonder what the Spurs see that others teams don't? Hopefully he can pass but since he's been surrounded by non shooters in Orlando and played in such limited minutes it's hard to see. The sample size is just so small.

    Steven Adams is 5 years younger and only saw a season with 15 min or less his rookie season, but for what it's worth (very little), their per 36 numbers are very similar.

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    It feels like this is where the Spurs are going anyway once they sign Dedmon. The starters need the garbage man a la Splitter. Since LMA is an awesome midrange players in less concerned about spacing than when it was the Splitter/Duncan.

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    lol

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    Problem with Dedmon starting is that, Spurs will lack passing. That was the problem also last season, but replacing Duncan with Dedmon just makes it worse.

    Honestly, Spurs offense has sucked ever since Messina got on board. It has been crap for 2 years in a row. I don't know what happened, it was like Spurs perfected the offense in 2014 and then all of a sudden GSW steals it.
    you couldn't miss it if you tried tbh, they went from a 3point shooting team to a mid range jumper shooting team.

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    Pop routinely sent Simmons after the best offensive player on defense to spell Danny and Kawhi. Anderson was routinely the garbage minute star. He constantly closed out games. Your fan goggles Are on a little tight if you don't remember that.
    Simmons got shut down hard around the time of the RRT. Did you forget that part?

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    I would be shocked if Pau agreed to this setup before he signed. I was lookinf forward to the new Big Three this upcoming season. But whatever the case, Pop is the man with the plan.

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    Dedmon remember Whiteside, I hope it works
    whiteside has a 7-7 wingspan, dedmon just a 7-4 wingspan though

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    you couldn't miss it if you tried tbh, they went from a 3point shooting team to a mid range jumper shooting team.
    Even worse - they became an Iso-centric team.

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    Pop wants to win the opening tips........

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    30 million on two bench players

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