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It matters because its illegal no matter how you look at it... its a way of cheating.
Just wondering if anyone cares that the NBA is a juiced up league and the best player is the poster child for HGH/steroids? Would it matter to you if you found out that Curry is clean and Lebfon juiced? Or would you think different of Curry if he is a roider too? I mean baseball has kept two of the greatest ever, Bonds and Clemens, out of the HOF for drug use. And UFC and WWE have suspended guys that everyone knows are juicers for positive tests. But in the NBA it is a non-issue. No stars have ever been taken down. Does anyone care?
It matters because its illegal no matter how you look at it... its a way of cheating.
In general, it's not a big deal. That being said, Media refusing to ask Kobe any tough questions about his trips to Europe for non-FDA-sanctioned blood "spinning" (doping) procedures was a disgrace.
Yeah its not a big deal
I think it's important to realize that UFC is more willing to clean up their sport than the NBA. That puts the NBA at the top of the list for dirtiest leagues. The 82 game season has a lot to do with it. But every other league around the world has been willing to ban players. The NFL is dirty too, bug even they have been willing to suspend some players. I'm sure the stars get a free pass just like Lance Armstrong did for years because he was making money for the sport.
To me it matters. When Lebron left Miami two years ago, and instantly lost 30 pounds of muscle, he became a different player. Still good, but unable to physically dominate players. Then he got back on the juice mid-season and instantly returned to the Incredible Hulk.
In 20 years when they're rating players it will be a black mark on his career, just like everyone takes Barry Bonds career with a grain of salt.
Also, in the pre-doping era teams used to win games based on their conditioning and endurance. Now it's just a matter of using EPO and other drugs that will keep you going. Nobody even gets tired anymore at the end of games.
I think most fans are in denial about how much doping influences the games they're watching. I can't really even watch Olympic sports anymore because it's really just a contest of who's hit the best doctors and best juice.
Most of them do already. It's pretty rampant with the money involved and lack of strict testing in this league.
Nah bra, Coby ain't no roider. He heals up by sucking the "marrow" out BONES. True story!
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12...rs-kobe-bryant
Kobe Bryant lay crumpled on the court, his left ankle severely sprained after landing on an opponent's foot. Dr. Cate Shanahan saw it all unfold on TV and immediately picked up the phone. She knew the Lakers' star needed soup -- fast.
Shanahan, the director of the Lakers PRO Nutrition Program, called the chef at the Atlanta hotel where the Lakers were staying that March 2013 night and ordered two bowls of hot chicken vegetable soup to be delivered to Bryant's room.
This wasn't your basic, store-bought soup, though. It was made with bone broth, a nourishing concoction rich in nutrient and minerals -- and especially collagen -- produced by simmering bones (pig, cow, fish, etc.) and other ingredients for hours.
Hmm collagen, broth Bones? Colbiy is a Bonifide Bone Sucker or BBS for short.
UFC is willing to take down Brock Lesnar when he could be a big star. And the MLB has suspended or banned some of it's biggest stars. So is it really true that no one cares? What a double standard and it kind of makes all sports ridiculous, because people aren't playing by the same rules, and no one knows what the rules are.
Yes.
If your paycheck revolves around sports/being in peak physical shape, you juice(in some form)...
Not at all.
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I had my su ions about Kobe in '03 where he kind of blew up out of nowhere and had anger/aggression issues. When he was accused of rape the first thing I thought of was roid rage
it's not as much this, as it is about not allowing things to transcend into a battle of who juices more, which would make athletes die at age 40 on average.
Nope, skill puts the ball in the hole so juicing or not it comes down to work ethic. I doubt all juice btw., just a few obvious ones.
Would rather the naturals get rewarded but, that aint gonna happen.
Have heard the correct substances used in the correct doses is perfectly safe.
Would rather it be legalized and brought into the open.
Juicing makes you faster, stronger, more explosive, with better endurance and faster recovery from injury. Do don't tell me it wouldn't help basketball players. If helps baseball players hit a ball with a bat, which is more skill oriented, it definitely will help in the NBA. As far as how many do it, I would say 20-40% are way into it, and a lot of others dabble with it at times or when needed.
Look at NBA players from the 70's and 80's. They look like regular tall people, with a few notable exceptions of players who were naturally gifted. Now most players look like action figures. When the MLB started cracking down you could actually SEE the difference in the way player's uniforms hang loose. And all the sudden they quit hitting 60 and 70 home runs.
meh, what skill does aron gordon have?
It's not true that you can't stop it. If you keep samples with the possibility of testing in 10 years, you create a lot uncertainty because no one knows what technology will be available in the future. That combined with year round surprise testin, even in the offseason, would make a huge difference. Of course some would cheat anyway, but it would be a small minority.
There are people internationally who have thought about this, and various leagues around the world are doing more of less tk fight it.
I guess I was surprised about the UFC suspending two big name guys, since it's going on so blatantly in the NBA.
This, also fatigue can make you miss shots... your legs are dead and the whole body reacts to that thats why gassed teams miss a lot of shots during the 4th quarter.
Bone Sucking rage leads to rape!I had my su ions about Kobe in '03 where he kind of blew up out of nowhere and had anger/aggression issues. When he was accused of rape the first thing I thought of was roid rage
I don't think it's just the bulked up players.
When playoff Twinky Curry slipped on the wet floor, it looked like a pretty serious injury.
Sure seems like his *fast recovery* was aided.
Agree it's not just bulked up players. I think a lot of the endurance boosters that cyclists and soccer players use would benefit NBA players. That's why players don't look as exhausted after games as the did in the past.
That is true, not denying that.
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