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    "The ball don't lie." dbestpro's Avatar
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    Trading Gervin away has always been seen as a mistake and a black eye in the history of the franchise. They recovered from the Sean ****** Trade by getting him back. Icons from here on out are here to stay. That means Parker will be here until he retires. It is the way it is, and will always be from here on out. It is part of our tradition.

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    It's a lot, but he deserves it.
    ^^ His last pay day and yes he did earn it. It's just one year for those who don't like it, dude can teach some of the younger guys a few things and that is invaluable.

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    There is no doubt in my mind that the Colangelos were behind this for their
    PHX days vs the Spurs. R.C. and Pop will get even. It may not be this
    year but they will get some payback........

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    So that opening offer of 3million, that would make sense if we wanted durant right? Is it reasonable to assume the spurs only lowballed him for that reason?

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    So that opening offer of 3million, that would make sense if we wanted durant right? Is it reasonable to assume the spurs only lowballed him for that reason?
    Nah, they probably wanted to rescind his cap space, then re-sign him with cap for that amount. That would've saved around ~1.5M in cap-space IIRC, possibly to try to keep Boban.

    Once he was going to be signed with money over the cap, it didn't really matter how much, except for the money coming out of Holt's wife pockets.

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    I definitely like them coming up. Did they lose Crabbe?

    Nope, Portland matched.

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    Given that there is a price floor you couldn't be more wrong. They gave away $113m for nothing last year because they didn't pay up to 90% of the cap. They are getting something for theeir money this time around.

    Nope, not wrong at all. Could easily find a player or two for that $14 million.

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    Nope, not wrong at all. Could easily find a player or two for that $14 million.
    We're currently over the cap. You cannot sign non-Bird players without an exception given that. You're wrong.

    If the owners do not pay the players in salary that totals to 90% of the total of the cap they pay the difference in a lump sum to the union. It is what it is.

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    We're currently over the cap. You cannot sign non-Bird players without an exception given that. You're wrong.

    If the owners do not pay the players in salary that totals to 90% of the total of the cap they pay the difference in a lump sum to the union. It is what it is.

    90% can be worked around with plenty of other players, not a hard concept to grasp.

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    Bump..

    looking at det bench already and few here wanting Manu retired ..I see plenty of scrubs out there in need to be spoonfed from the old dog..

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    Manu cost us Boban

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    The guy who was far and away the best player on the team...well, according to "advanced" stats anyway.

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    Umm no.... Boban made a commitment with Detroit before Manu's contract inflated to the 14 $MM figure.

    People also forget, there are only 15 total spots. Manu, even at his age is a Top 5-8 performer for the team and helps solidify the playmaking off the bench.
    Last edited by Phenomanul; 10-04-2016 at 08:38 AM.

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    Sigh... this is getting to be like the "Why did we trade Paul George" threads - except those were jokes. The huge bump in the cap this year meant teams had a lot of money to throw at FA's. Nobody of any significance was signing for cheap, and the Spurs had less free cap than a lot of other teams. The Spurs got Gasol and Manu instead of Boban and??? Someone else. There is no way. No way. NO ing way that Boban was going to be able to take over as the starting C on the Spurs. And the Spurs had to have a starting C. Those didn't come cheap this year, and honestly we're lucky that they were able to land Gasol.

    It's inconvenient when your team can't get/keep all the players they want. That's what a salary cap does. But Gasol and Manu will allow the Spurs to keep playing like the Spurs. And as much fun as Boban is to watch, he's not Godzilla. Teams figured out how to deny him the ball. And how to draw him away from the basket when he was playing D. He had a lot to learn. We'll see how much he learned in a single offseason. But I don't think there's any way it will be enough to offset both Gasol and Manu.

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    Top 100 player in the league, tbh... bargain...

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    Been blessed to watch these 3 play their entire careers here and to see a savvy franchise be able to replenish by showing them that taking less at certain points was essential to cementing their Hall of Fame legacies. Their willingness to give back is laudable; their desire to get something back at the end is beyond understandable.

    Spurs fans seem to think that some of these guys -- even Duncan in some years -- should just play for the minimum and be thankful for the opportunity to be with the franchise. It never ceases to amaze me.

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    I wanted to keep Marjanovic...

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    I wanted to keep Marjanovic...
    You could have signed Marjanovich anyway if we had Cap Space, fact, we hadnīt, Manu was signed using his brid rights, which we didnīt have in Bobanīs case.

    Both singings are unrelated as we could not use the money used on Manu, to keep Boban.
    In order to keep Boban you had to trade away at least 10 millions, ALREADY on the payroll, say Tony for example, or choose not to bring Gasol and use THAT space.

    People need to stop reading what uniformed posters say.

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    You could have signed Marjanovich anyway if we had Cap Space, fact, we hadnīt, Manu was signed using his brid rights, which we didnīt have in Bobanīs case.

    Both singings are unrelated as we could not use the money used on Manu, to keep Boban.
    In order to keep Boban you had to trade away at least 10 millions, ALREADY on the payroll, say Tony for example, or choose not to bring Gasol and use THAT space.

    People need to stop reading what uniformed posters say.
    Exactly... This was mentioned when it all went down too lol

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    This was all discussed when it happened. Spurs could've easily matched Boban's offer but they couldn't because Manure was close to signing with Philly. He cost us Boban. No way to spin it, folks.

    Ask Chinook

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    This was all discussed when it happened. Spurs could've easily matched Boban's offer but they couldn't because Manure was close to signing with Philly. He cost us Boban. No way to spin it, folks.

    Ask Chinook

    Boban isn't worth the $$ he's getting paid.

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    Boban isn't worth the $$ he's getting paid.
    3yr/21M? He's easily worth what he got paid.

    Last edited by TheGreatYacht; 10-04-2016 at 02:20 PM.

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    This was all discussed when it happened. Spurs could've easily matched Boban's offer but they couldn't because Manure was close to signing with Philly. He cost us Boban. No way to spin it, folks.

    Ask Chinook
    The only two options were Manu at the room exception and Boban or Manu at whatever price above the room exception and Dedmon. One looks better than the other right now, but we'll have to see. Obviously Manu at the min or just gone changes the numbers a lot. But that probably was never an option.

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    The only two options were Manu at the room exception and Boban or Manu at whatever price above the room exception and Dedmon. One looks better than the other right now, but we'll have to see. Obviously Manu at the min or just gone changes the numbers a lot. But that probably was never an option.
    Thanks

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