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You just suggested that Kawhi handle the ball like Lebron. That would be a disaster. And I'm a big Kawhi fan.
Trade him to get another PG that's better? That just sounds like angry fan. What team is going to trade you an upgrade at PG for Parker? And you've lost your mind if you want Mills, Murray, or Simmons handling the ball under pressure in the NBA finals. Look at their turnovers during summer league. And Pop makes Manu bring the ball up rather than Mills b/c he knows Mills is Danny Greenesque in ball handling. This exercise tires you because you have no legit answer. And that's why Parker's not getting traded this year.
You just suggested that Kawhi handle the ball like Lebron. That would be a disaster. And I'm a big Kawhi fan.
You didn't have to. The moment you said kawhi can be the primary ball handler like the other MVP candidates, you essentially said like James, Durant and Curry. James is point forward which Leonard is not. Curry is a point guard and a natural ball handler. Durant wasn't the primary ball handler in OKC, Westbrook was.
tp aint going nowhere and spurs aint trading for 18 mil monroe when they just signed gasol... f'n gnsfs...
Oh... Someone is getting DP'd. Better get the children into the other room...
Any traction to this rumor or just the one tweet?
As skilled as Monroe is offensively he is equally as bad defensively, he shows little effort on that side of the ball and would not be a good fit. There's a reason that Detroit did not re-sign him and Milwaukee wants to trade him after only one season. One good showing against Golden State isn't enough to warrant trading for him.
not arguing that parker will get traded.
no, i didn't say he handle the ball like lebron.
this is what i said:
i'll make this real easy for you mongoloids. kawhi finished 2nd in the MVP vote. does he at least deserve the handle ball as much as the other great players in the league?
in case you still don't know, he does.
stop being afraid of change, embrace it.
idc how raw murray is, i'd take him/kawhi over tp/kawhi.
At this point too, I would as well. Might be damn rough for stretches but in the long run, I think it would have more positive that negative consequences.
People are really underselling Parker. He's still the best PG on the team by a mile. There will long stretches of games where Murray is literally unplayable. Folks need to realize that. Simmons last season was better than Murray this season. Do you want that starting? Well, some folks did want that starting, so I guess you might.
Now you are backtracking. The argument isn’t “does Kawhi deserve to handle the ball as much as other great players,” but rather, if you trade Parker, who becomes the person to handle the ball pressure in the playoffs.When I asked the question, you put forth Kawhi, and now, wisely, you are back tracking because that makes no sense.Should Kawhi handle the ball more?I don’t know what that means.More isos?Maybe, but he’s efficient without dominating the ball every possession.But the idea that he’s going to run pick and rolls and make good decisions with the ball is a little silly.He’s not on that level yet, and may never be.Lebron is, and that’s why he’s a generational player and an all-time great.That’s not just a matter of practice; it’s a God-given gift.But that’s beside the point.If Parker is gone, who handles the ball during the WCF against the GS ball pressure or against the Cav ball pressure?And be careful when mindlessly throw out Simmons and Murray as they are the type of players that will throw the ball away 9 times a game in summer league.Sure, they can get better, but not in one year.
In '01-'02, Tim played 40.6 MPG for 82 games. And in the playoffs he put up 27.6 PPG, 14.4 RB, 5 AST, and 4.4 blocks! All better than his RS stats.
In '02-'03, Tim played 39.3 MPG for 81 games. And in the playoffs he put up 24.7 PPG, 15.4 RB, 5.3 AST, and 3.3 blocks. All better than RS, AND he let the team to a Championship.
I can't even begin to understand why Kawhi can't play more than 33 MPG at this point in his career. And that's the most Pop has ever played him.
As for his ball handling skills - I don't hear people "expecting" him to do it so much as noticing that it's not his strong suit. It is sort of hard for me to imagine people discussing a SF as a serious league MVP contender, unless he has superior ball handling skills. And maybe that's what they are saying. Someone above suggested that Kawhi "deserves" to handle the ball as much as any other MVP candidate. I don't even know what to say to that. LeBron, for instance, only "deserves" to handle the ball because he's really good at it. If he wasn't, he wouldn't be LeBron.
OF course you would.
would definitely build good chemistry.
it's funny... there's people on here saying that we won't win a championship with parker starting... and they're still against him not starting
Indubitably!
especially disagree with you there.
you'll see.
Centers: Zaza Pachulia, Anderson Varajao, Damion Jones
PFs: Draymond Green, David West, James Michael McAdoo
Memphis, Clippers, Cleveland.
Memphis: Gasol & Randolph
Clippers: Blake and Jordan
Cavs: Thompson and Love
I don’t know if Kawhi should play more than 33 minutes a game. Maybe because of the position he plays and the way he has to play defense against highly mobile players and fight through screens and then score on the other end, Pop assumes he needs less minutes to reduce wear and tear.But I don’t think you can compare what Tim did, and not just because of talent, but because of the position.In Tim’s prime, he only had to body up against bigs in the post and guard the rim.Sure that’s a drain, but not so much when you are 7 feet tall and far superior to the player you are defending.And in Tim’s prime, he could only be guarded by a team defense, and even that wasn’t enough to stop him.Kawhi faces a lot of talent at his position, and while he is elite, the disparity isn’t the same as comparing Tim to most of the people he went up against. And I’m not disparaging the talent Tim went up against.He played against some great players in his prime, he was just that much better.
Eh, for discussion sake, those aren't really centers on the Cavs. The Clippers and the Grizz have big centers, but I'm not sure they are true contenders. Does Monroe stop Gasol or Jordan? I haven't seen him enough to draw that conclusion.
how lightly is draymond going to get off?
Have to kill David West specially. Dude can play ball in every other respect, but if you ask him to box out and board, game over.
My bet is no worse than a slap on the wrist, if that.
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