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Lee>Diaw tbh
ding ding ding - glad to see you coming to the dark side. Always had faith in you.
Lee>Diaw tbh
I liked Lee until he signed that massive contract with the Dubs. I would rather wait, but if we signed him to a vet minimum contract, I'd be good with that. Now all you need to do is convince Pop to get rid of his orange chia pet.
He can't be any worse than the lackadaisical coaster that was Diaw 2015-2016.Lee>Diaw tbh
Thanks, but I'm pretty sure I've been saying this as long as anyone has.:
Surely you jest..
"Bonner knows the system. Corporate knowledge" - Pop
I would liken him more to replacing D West. Shorter rebounding PF type whose defense is average to not great at all. Only thing is he lacks the D West 'toughness' factor I guess. Still a nice vet to have for the minimum and is younger than West.
Ppl will hate Lee when Pop starts trotting him out there and we start losing. I don't think he's the +/- God that Bonner is. He's also not the locker room presence that Bonner is. He sounds like a Kevin Martin dude to me, puts up empty stats bc he's a net negative and the team is losing with him out there. I guess for an end of the bench big he'd be fine, but somehow I don't think he will be as upbeat as Bonner still is even when he's not playing.
lol GS won a championship with Lee playing a role against Cleveland in 2015, not sure what you're talking about tbh
Lee is one of the purest near-the-basket scorers ever. Another way of saying that is that he isn't a threat to score from anything outside of about 5-6 feet, but mostly inside 3 feet. That's not just me bashing the guy, it's totally obvious if you watch him, and the numbers say the same thing. Last time I looked, he shot something like 3/4 of his shots from inside 5 feet. That would be great, if he scored the way Shaq did. But something like 3/4 of those buckets were assisted.
He's an adequate rebounder, but not great. He gets part of he rebounding numbers from the offensive glass. But Pop is pretty rigid about getting back on defense, rather than chasing offensive boards. He's far from being a force on the defensive glass. Somewhere way back there, they used to list him at 6'10". Now they list him at 6'9". I don't want to get into another argument about what measurements to use, but he's about 6'7.5" barefoot.
I don't want to be too negative. The Spurs need one more big(ish) player, and the pickings are slim. But physically, he's a less-athletic Jarnell Stokes. He does have a better standing reach than Stokes, and he has NBA experience. Stokes is younger and has better springs, and he's hungry. Lee's experience might be better in the playoffs, just because he's been there and seen it. But my gut says that Lee's durability will be an issue. At this point in Lee's career, I think he's about a toss-up for Stokes. Personally, if I absolutely HAD to choose between the two, I'd rather see Stokes get his shot. At least Stokes has the possibility of being a Cinderella story.
My only issue, is if Spurs are going to do something this year, with Gasol's age in mind, I would rather go with the vet in Lee who is a known quan y vs. Stokes. Either way, we are talking about the bench, but Lee has shown a knack for coming off the bench and being a spark at times.
BINGO!!! Lee is worlds better than a ing Matt Bonner. People need to cut the crap about that guy's "locker room presence" and "corporate knowledge". When you can list 5-10 things about a player's value and have NONE of them have anything to do with what's ON the court then you know what that sounds like to me, a person that belongs in a suit and tie on the sideline holding a clipboard and not in a jersey taking up player salary. Its time we at least TRY to get someone useful ON THE COURT for a change...you know, where the game is actually played.
In 14-15, Lee's minutes went from around 30 per game to around 16 per game. And his per-36 scoring went down, because he was attempting fewer shots. (In other words, his scoring went down by more than the reduction in minutes.) His scoring depends on other players. In a bench role, he's less effective than playing with starters, because he doesn't have someone like Steph getting him the easy chip-shots. A lot of post-up guys who get moved to a bench role will do as well, or even a little better, playing against bench players. Lee isn't a post-up player, and he suffers without the benefit of a good playmaker.
If I remember, he was injured at the beginning of the playoffs, so I'm not going to bother talking about his playoff performance. He did have two good games against the Cavs. But if you're going to talk about those, you almost have to include the fact that he shot .400 from the field, and .533 from the FT line. I'm just saying - whatever good he did in those playoffs was mostly the result of defenders leaving him to go double someone else, and he got the benefit.
I don't have anything concrete to back it up, but my impression over the years is that when David Lee is scoring a lot, his teams are not doing as well. GS got better when his role was diminished. Normally I'd say it doesn't matter for a bench role. But when he doesn't have someone to get him easy shots, he's much less effective. At least that's the way I've seen him.
GS won a championship with Lee on the team just like the Spurs won a championship with Bonner on the team in 2014. Let's not act like Lee actually played a role in the championship. He averaged 9.5 minutes against Cleveland, 3 minutes against Houston, 11 minutes against Memphis and didn't play against NO. He all but fell out of the rotation by the time the playoffs began and GS eventually traded him because they had no more use for him. He'd be fine for a 4/5th big off the bench and a RS minutes eater for the league minimum but he's not worth much more than that. And Yeah, his defense is as bad as advertised. He's also extremely fragile.
A few minutes, very few minutes in 2015 and he was then benched then traded out twice and none of those who got him wanted to keep him.
GSW improved significantly after benching him, even more when he was shipped out. He's washed up like KMartin is my point can still do some things out there, but in the course of doing those things his lack of defense will cost games.
He's fine for very end of the bench. I don't think he will be happy there either.
Speaking about KMartin... are the Spurs going to get him for the minimum?
GSH good posts on Lee.
No news. But he was r enounced I believe. I'd rather get Forbes personally.
Spurs are likely going to go heavy with Pau/Aldridge in the playoffs 33-38 minutes each. Dedmon, who matches up great w/ either Pau or Aldridge, will probably get the bulk of the rest & Kawhi will get some time at PF as well.
Hard to imagine the PF the Spurs end up signing will have a significant role in the playoffs. Whoever they sign, whether it be David Lee, Jason Thompson or whoever will likely only play in the playoffs when the games are lopsided or when one of the three bigs ahead on the depth chart is injured or in foul trouble. Spurs already have their playoff rotation on the roster. All this talk about David Lee and how he's experienced for the playoffs is kind of irrelevant. Whoever they sign will be decent depth to fill in the irrelevant minutes during the regular season. The addition likely won't change the ceiling of the Spurs in the playoffs.
hilariousRoth? He's got hops, looks like a good rebounder, and clearly flails like Draymond. Sign him!
has Lee slipped that much that he would take the minimum?
Thats where the market value is for the remaining PF's. Terrence Jones, Quincy Acy, Brandon Bass all signed for the minimum. It's inevitable that Lee will too.
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