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    GS won a championship with Lee on the team just like the Spurs won a championship with Bonner on the team in 2014. Let's not act like Lee actually played a role in the championship. He averaged 9.5 minutes against Cleveland, 3 minutes against Houston, 11 minutes against Memphis and didn't play against NO. He all but fell out of the rotation by the time the playoffs began and GS eventually traded him because they had no more use for him. He'd be fine for a 4/5th big off the bench and a RS minutes eater for the league minimum but he's not worth much more than that. And Yeah, his defense is as bad as advertised. He's also extremely fragile.
    So he would make less than Bonner and play more than bonner thus contributing more than bonner other than being a social media d-bag? Sounds like SA should wrap that deal up.

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    So he would make less than Bonner and play more than bonner thus contributing more than bonner other than being a social media d-bag? Sounds like SA should wrap that deal up.
    Bonner is a bench consultant collecting pay checks. He doesn't actually play. I don't know why people are assuming David Lee, if signed, is replacing Bonner. I'm pretty sure Pop would see Lee as a rotation player eating up regular season minutes While Bonner hasn't been part of a rotation since 2011. A Lee signing doesn't mean the end of Bonner as the Spurs could still easily sign him as the 15th man.

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    This is not a report or even a rumor of the Spurs being interested in David Lee. This is an article which references an SI writer who spit-balled potential landing spots that he thought made sense for Lee, and one of the teams listed was the Spurs. There's no factual basis cited for any actual interest between the Spurs and Lee.

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    Bonner is a bench consultant collecting pay checks. He doesn't actually play. I don't know why people are assuming David Lee, if signed, is replacing Bonner. I'm pretty sure Pop would see Lee as a rotation player eating up regular season minutes While Bonner hasn't been part of a rotation since 2011. A Lee signing doesn't mean the end of Bonner as the Spurs could still easily sign him as the 15th man.
    Im only in for something where bonner goes away and somehow has to give away what he's stolen from the nba.

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    How anyone can even defend Bonner against a guy who isn't too far removed from being an All-star that can actually rebound the ing ball is beyond me. "Locker room guy" means jack . So long as a guy isn't a Boogie Cousins in the locker room, people are fine and that is no reason to keep this dude around. He can't rebound, score or defend or hit a major shot when it counts. What do we need him for? He will get burned in small ball and that outweighs any "stretching" he does.

    And LOL at people thinking go-nowhere scrubs like Betrans will make a difference. I know some of you are die-hards with not a lot to talk about in real life, but this is just ridiculous. We go through this same every year with our end-of-rotation-Toros-caliber guys. Betrans SUCKS. SUCKS. While we're at it, let's revisit James White, Alonzo Gee and Curtis Jerrells...I mean they turned into these insanely awesome players you said they would be...Bertrans couldn't defend his mama from a 4th grader's insults.

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    For a 4th big at the min this would be a great pick up.

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    according to a fansided writer.

    Anyone can be a fansided writer.......

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    Roth? He's got hops, looks like a good rebounder, and clearly flails like Draymond. Sign him!

    Start Roth, bring Cherone off the bench.


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    This is not a report or even a rumor of the Spurs being interested in David Lee. This is an article which references an SI writer who spit-balled potential landing spots that he thought made sense for Lee, and one of the teams listed was the Spurs. There's no factual basis cited for any actual interest between the Spurs and Lee.
    This actually improves the chances that it is true.

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    Spurs are likely going to go heavy with Pau/Aldridge in the playoffs 33-38 minutes each. Dedmon, who matches up great w/ either Pau or Aldridge, will probably get the bulk of the rest & Kawhi will get some time at PF as well.

    Hard to imagine the PF the Spurs end up signing will have a significant role in the playoffs. Whoever they sign, whether it be David Lee, Jason Thompson or whoever will likely only play in the playoffs when the games are lopsided or when one of the three bigs ahead on the depth chart is injured or in foul trouble. Spurs already have their playoff rotation on the roster. All this talk about David Lee and how he's experienced for the playoffs is kind of irrelevant. Whoever they sign will be decent depth to fill in the irrelevant minutes during the regular season. The addition likely won't change the ceiling of the Spurs in the playoffs.
    Defensively, Gasol and Dedmon don't match up great at all. Also, Dedmon is still somewhat unproven in general and totally unproven as a potential third big, let alone on an elite team.

    Even if him and Anderson play well, they'd still need one of Simmons or Bertans to, otherwise (insert name of whatever veteran power forward left) could end up being a rotation player. If not, they'd probably be one injury away from being one. Plus, they'll be the inevitable rest games for Gasol and to a lesser extent, Aldridge, so there's actually the potential for relatively significant minutes.


    At this point, as long as they're not a complete and total non shooter, I don't really care who it is. If it's a former relatively big name, they've got to be willing to accept being a fringe rotation player though.

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    Sign him

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    we need another big................

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    Sure.....why not.....

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    Go! for the vet minimum....

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    But I would have wanted Thomas Robinson better.....

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    David's presence would force KA into the 3 or deep bench I think. Then you've got two of your young guys you want to develop in Davis and Kyle fighting for time at 1 slot behind Kawhi.

    That said, its a good problem to have. As I recall, Lee was pretty good in spot duty when the Dubs won the le. I'd like him on board for the min without a doubt.

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    David's presence would force KA into the 3 or deep bench I think. Then you've got two of your young guys you want to develop in Davis and Kyle fighting for time at 1 slot behind Kawhi.

    That said, its a good problem to have. As I recall, Lee was pretty good in spot duty when the Dubs won the le. I'd like him on board for the min without a doubt.

    Way back when the Knicks were trying to get rid of him for cheap, I thought the Spurs should have picked him up. But I had only seen him play a few times. Then I really started watching him. Out of all the possibilities, he's the one I like the least.

    Maybe some people should look at the article below, from this time last year. Even though he puts up decent numbers, teams seem to wind up wanting to give him away. That's sort of a red flag.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/5...s-warriors-nba

    This is the first couple of paragraphs:

    David Lee doesn't work in Golden State. He has career averages of 15 points and 10 rebounds, but his ball-dominating play in the post and lackluster defense won't fly in the Warriors' system that emphasizes movement and versatility, things that won them the 2015 NBA championship.

    Last year, the solution was to bench him. After returning from an injury, Lee played 49 games after playing 69 the season before (and starting 67 of those). While he briefly contributed in the NBA Finals, Lee's $15.5 million expiring deal is a lot to pay a guy for spot minutes every now and then.

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    Way back when the Knicks were trying to get rid of him for cheap, I thought the Spurs should have picked him up. But I had only seen him play a few times. Then I really started watching him. Out of all the possibilities, he's the one I like the least.

    Maybe some people should look at the article below, from this time last year. Even though he puts up decent numbers, teams seem to wind up wanting to give him away. That's sort of a red flag.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/5...s-warriors-nba

    This is the first couple of paragraphs:

    David Lee doesn't work in Golden State. He has career averages of 15 points and 10 rebounds, but his ball-dominating play in the post and lackluster defense won't fly in the Warriors' system that emphasizes movement and versatility, things that won them the 2015 NBA championship.

    Last year, the solution was to bench him. After returning from an injury, Lee played 49 games after playing 69 the season before (and starting 67 of those). While he briefly contributed in the NBA Finals, Lee's $15.5 million expiring deal is a lot to pay a guy for spot minutes every now and then.
    Thanks for the link. Maybe there are some at ude issues with Lee? But at the min anyone we get will have flaws. Better than Amare or Boozer in my opinion.

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    Lee is not a 3-point threat at all.
    He's still better than regular season 3-point threat..

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    Thanks for the link. Maybe there are some at ude issues with Lee? But at the min anyone we get will have flaws. Better than Amare or Boozer in my opinion.
    I don't think it's at ude at all. I put it in an earlier post, but he's a mediocre rebounder, and a terrible defender. And on offense, he can't score from more than about 5 feet - and really, 5 feet is a stretch. He also doesn't score very often unless it's assisted. Somebody's got to do the work, and feed him.

    I know we're talking the 4th big, but if he's going to be on the roster, I like to think that he could contribute or step up if someone is injured. I know it sounds odd, but even when he puts up numbers he doesn't seem to help his teams win. He looks good on paper, but teams always wind up figuring out that they're better off without him. The Knicks shopped him hard. The Warriors shopped him hard. Boston dumped his ass after one season, and didn't try to offer him a reduced rate. Dallas had him for $2M, and didn't invite him back.

    Some guys don't impress me, but I think Lee is a net negative. He'd score some points, and some fans would just think he's great. But... remember Drew Gooden? His Per-36 numbers always looked pretty good. But there's a reason he's played for 10 different teams. At least Gooden was a legit 6'9" or so. I swear, Lee is 6'7.5" and doesn't have a fantastic wingspan.

    Like I said, I was pretty positive about the guy until I started really watching him play. If the Spurs' FO calls to ask what I think, Ima definitely say to pass.

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    David's presence would force KA into the 3 or deep bench I think. Then you've got two of your young guys you want to develop in Davis and Kyle fighting for time at 1 slot behind Kawhi.

    That said, its a good problem to have. As I recall, Lee was pretty good in spot duty when the Dubs won the le. I'd like him on board for the min without a doubt.
    This is probably my fandom blinding me, but 33 yr old Lee should not feel en led to that spot and I don't think anyone still in the market is getting guarantees from the Spurs at this time for their playing time, unless they are clearly superior and Lee is not. IMO Spurs really intend to give Kyle his shot at the spot, which doesn't mean they are not trying to get someone else, but it does make SA a very undesirable location for a washed up vet on the vet min. who still feels like he deserves to be playing.

    Frankly, I don't mind the Spurs picking up a vet like this but I see Kyle's and Bertans' emergence as potential rotation players making it so that the incoming vet will have a Rasual Butler role, who played some minutes early in the season but was meant to be phased out as soon as the younger players stepped up. Any vet PF signed has to be apprised of this or there will be issues in the locker room when he's not playing and few vets are ready to put their egos aside. Rasual did, but he had tried out for teams 3 years in a row, like guys do in training camp contracts, he had already been humbled. (And nvm that Pop cutting Rasual was a move that will be on his mind too).

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    I don't think it's at ude at all. I put it in an earlier post, but he's a mediocre rebounder, and a terrible defender. And on offense, he can't score from more than about 5 feet - and really, 5 feet is a stretch. He also doesn't score very often unless it's assisted. Somebody's got to do the work, and feed him.

    I know we're talking the 4th big, but if he's going to be on the roster, I like to think that he could contribute or step up if someone is injured. I know it sounds odd, but even when he puts up numbers he doesn't seem to help his teams win. He looks good on paper, but teams always wind up figuring out that they're better off without him. The Knicks shopped him hard. The Warriors shopped him hard. Boston dumped his ass after one season, and didn't try to offer him a reduced rate. Dallas had him for $2M, and didn't invite him back.

    Some guys don't impress me, but I think Lee is a net negative. He'd score some points, and some fans would just think he's great. But... remember Drew Gooden? His Per-36 numbers always looked pretty good. But there's a reason he's played for 10 different teams. At least Gooden was a legit 6'9" or so. I swear, Lee is 6'7.5" and doesn't have a fantastic wingspan.

    Like I said, I was pretty positive about the guy until I started really watching him play. If the Spurs' FO calls to ask what I think, Ima definitely say to pass.
    He's going to turn out to be the Kevin Martin of PF. The only player with a net negative last season was Mr. Martin.

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    I don't think it's at ude at all. I put it in an earlier post, but he's a mediocre rebounder, and a terrible defender. And on offense, he can't score from more than about 5 feet - and really, 5 feet is a stretch. He also doesn't score very often unless it's assisted. Somebody's got to do the work, and feed him.

    I know we're talking the 4th big, but if he's going to be on the roster, I like to think that he could contribute or step up if someone is injured. I know it sounds odd, but even when he puts up numbers he doesn't seem to help his teams win. He looks good on paper, but teams always wind up figuring out that they're better off without him. The Knicks shopped him hard. The Warriors shopped him hard. Boston dumped his ass after one season, and didn't try to offer him a reduced rate. Dallas had him for $2M, and didn't invite him back.

    Some guys don't impress me, but I think Lee is a net negative. He'd score some points, and some fans would just think he's great. But... remember Drew Gooden? His Per-36 numbers always looked pretty good. But there's a reason he's played for 10 different teams. At least Gooden was a legit 6'9" or so. I swear, Lee is 6'7.5" and doesn't have a fantastic wingspan.

    Like I said, I was pretty positive about the guy until I started really watching him play. If the Spurs' FO calls to ask what I think, Ima definitely say to pass.
    Good take. I'm curious to know who your choice would be for a fourth big that's still available and would take the min?

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