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    He would really consider Mil? Interesting... I mean, I guess OKC isn't that far off.
    of course, he'd consider Milwaukee. They're young, athletic, gave the Dubs fits last season and it's an easier path to the Finals.

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    Why? Those teams could just get him next off-season without giving up anything. There is no need for anyone to give up anything significant unless Westbrook agrees to an extension. Presti is in a bad spot.
    Presti is in a terrible spot and IMO will be fired really soon. But the advantages you have if you get Westbrook in a trade is you get him in your culture used to players/coaches and hopefully that allows the upper hand. There's so much compe ion in FA crazy things can happen..as we saw this summer.

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    He would really consider Mil? Interesting... I mean, I guess OKC isn't that far off.
    Not necessarily but MIL probably won't have a chance in FA so they can possibly give up more than the other teams listed. Bucks would then have an advantage of Westbrook with a year under his belt in their system
    . If Bucks make it to the ECF maybe Westbrook stays??

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    Presti is in a terrible spot and IMO will be fired really soon. But the advantages you have if you get Westbrook in a trade is you get him in your culture used to players/coaches and hopefully that allows the upper hand. There's so much compe ion in FA crazy things can happen..as we saw this summer.
    If Westbrook is not willing to sign an extension, none of that means . You can't go giving up a ton of assets with the possibility of him walking next off-season. No smart team should be willing to do that. You could set your franchise back years.

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    People forget if you trade for him too you get his birds rights and can offer that fifth year. More guaranteed money.

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    If Westbrook is not willing to sign an extension, none of that means . You can't go giving up a ton of assets with the possibility of him walking next off-season. No smart team should be willing to do that. You could set your franchise back years.
    Westbrook not signing extension has nothing to do with if he would stay with the team or not. It's about maximizing on his earnings when the cap goes up...better for him to sing contract next summer then it would to sign extension tomorrow

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    Presti thinking Spurs would give up Leonard

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    Has this come up yet?

    per sources, Presti discussed Westbrook deals with several different teams (inc. SAS, MIL, LAL, BOS), but no middle ground was found.

    No? I hope it stays that way.
    I had not seen that. I assume the trade proposed by Presti was Kawhi or LMA and SA said no way. Thanks for sharing.

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    I'd give up LMA

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    I think Danny, Patty, Anderson, and Murray plus a couple firsts is a pretty good haul. They could always extract more picks to a third team for Danny and Patty and depending how they view Murray and Anderson, especially Murray it could be a solid get. I personally think Murray is better than Payne right now and has more upside. You also got Milutinov you can throw in. So you got assets. Just depends how much the Spurs are willing to give up and if he wants to do an extension. If he's willing to do an extension than you do what you must, but if not it's obviously not worth it. I mean we have assets, just depending on how you view them.

    Honestly I've advocated for not getting Westbrook but the name alone is enticing and having a core of Westbrook, Leonard, and Aldridge would put us in immediate contention for a le instead of a punchers chance which we have now.

    Westbrook/Parker/Arcidiacono
    Forbes/Ginobili/
    Leonard/Simmons
    Aldridge/Bertans/Jean-Charles
    Pau/Dedmon

    This is kind of what we'd be looking at if it happened soon, which is kind of important so you have time to fill out the roster, and have a training camp together. Basketball reasons it makes since in the case for Presti to want to trade to us cause you kind of even the odds against the warriors. If Prestis interest was only kawhi then he's dreaming and there's no shot here. Its really all up to Westbrook cause he can extend with whoever he wants. If he's making a pure basketball decision then the spurs are his best bet to win championships for multiple years and he can have his showdown with Durant every year and actually have a chance.

    Well I entertained the idea but I'm fine either way. Imo Westbrook is not the type to make a decision just based on basketball. In my mind he's always been an LA guy. So we'll see. As of now I don't see anyone giving up a star foods him. OKC really has no leverage here. You just hold out and the price will get lower.
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    I don't want to give anything up to get Westbrook. If he wants to play with the Spurs then he needs to come as a free agent. We can't afford to lose Danny Green/other role players.

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    I had not seen that. I assume the trade proposed by Presti was Kawhi or LMA and SA said no way. Thanks for sharing.
    Cant trade leonard for Westbrook - if they were the same age I would consider, but 3 years is 3 years.
    Cant trade LMA - I don't think, due to LMA being such a big free agent signing....

    Would trade for parker and green not even a second thought about it.

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    I think Danny, Patty, Anderson, and Murray plus a couple firsts is a pretty good haul. They could always extract more picks to a third team for Danny and Patty and depending how they view Murray and Anderson, especially Murray it could be a solid get. I personally think Murray is better than Payne right now and has more upside. You also got Milutinov you can throw in. So you got assets. Just depends how much the Spurs are willing to give up and if he wants to do an extension. If he's willing to do an extension than you do what you must, but if not it's obviously not worth it. I mean we have assets, just depending on how you view them.

    Honestly I've advocated for not getting Westbrook but the name alone is enticing and having a core of Westbrook, Leonard, and Aldridge would put us in immediate contention for a le instead of a punchers chance which we have now.

    Westbrook/Parker/Arcidiacono
    Forbes/Ginobili/Simmons/
    Leonard/Bertans
    Aldridge/Jean-Charles
    Pau/Dedmon

    This is kind of what we'd be looking at if it happened soon, which is kind of important so you have time to fill out the roster, and have a training camp together. Basketball reasons it makes since in the case for Presti to want to trade to us cause you kind of even the odds against the warriors. If Prestis interest was only kawhi then he's dreaming and there's no shot here. Its really all up to Westbrook cause he can extend with whoever he wants. If he's making a pure basketball decision then the spurs are his best bet to win championships for multiple years and he can have his showdown with Durant every year and actually have a chance.

    Well I entertained the idea but I'm fine either way. Imo Westbrook is not the type to make a decision just based on basketball. In my mind he's always been an LA guy. So we'll see. As of now I don't see anyone giving up a star foods him. OKC really has no leverage here. You just hold out and the price will get lower.
    Honestly even tho it isn't likely. Trading LMA and Mills plus picks for Westbrook and McGary is the best deal for the Spurs. You keep depth and they'd actually match up very well with the Warriors.

    Westbrook/Parker/Murray
    Green/Manu/Simmons
    Leonard/Anderson
    Gasol/Bertans/LJC
    Dedmon/McGary

    Leaves 2 roster spots open for possible C/PF depth.

    But that team could match up perfectly against GSW. You'd have Westbrook/Green/Leonard guarding the perimeter which would put a choke hold on the league. Obviously front court is weak but Gasol is still very productive and would actually get consistent touches. But it's the bench that will set us apart. Parker, Manu, Anderson is great start for depth. You've got the young guys who can ease their way in (Bertans, Murray, LJC,).

    I know this is a pipe dream but if I want to contend against GSW THIS year..this is route to go.

    Westbrook vs Curry
    Green vs Thompson
    Leonard vs Durant
    Dedmond vs Green
    Gasol vs Pachullia

    And our bench > their bench IMO...

    Just a thought. Contracts match on Trade Machine

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    ^Nope.

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    I don't want to give anything up to get Westbrook. If he wants to play with the Spurs then he needs to come as a free agent. We can't afford to lose Danny Green/other role players.
    I agree that Danny must stay, but I would be willing to give up KA, Mills, and picks.

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    Sucks Presti can't just do the Spurs a solid and deal Westbrook for Parker, a pick, right to 2-3 players and then resign from okc fo.

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    Presti really is an idiot if he's trying to leverage a team for their superstar or main guys. No one in the league is giving up significant pieces for a player who won't sign an extension. lol trying to play hard ball when you have no reason to. Russ is leaving no matter what imo, Presti better give up his idea of getting something of equal value or close to it in return because no one is gutting their team for someone who will be a FA in a year (except NYK lol)
    Trading your future for a rental has never been a good thing to do. The only time it could make sense is if you are in a win-this-year situation, like maybe the last year of Tim's career. But even then, if have to trade pieces it reduces the chance of winning it all. The Spurs aren't that stupid.

    Besides that, I can see Westbrook bolting to a big market team, like the Knicks, where it would be "his" team. So if the team did well, he could take full credit for it.

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    Pull the trigger Presti. RC always has a spot for you if you get fired

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    Again, it wouldn't shock me for Monroe and MKE to agree to a buyout pretty soon and him ending up on GS.
    Do not say such frightening things.
    Why would that be frightening? Most spurstalkers are saying they don't want Monroe to sign with the Spurs because he doesn't play defense or rebound. In that case, we should hope that Monroe does sign with GSW.

    Presti is in a terrible spot and IMO will be fired really soon. But the advantages you have if you get Westbrook in a trade is you get him in your culture used to players/coaches and hopefully that allows the upper hand. There's so much compe ion in FA crazy things can happen..as we saw this summer.
    Huh? He's easily a top 5 GM in the NBA.

    He would really consider Mil? Interesting... I mean, I guess OKC isn't that far off.
    Does Milwaukee have a Neiman Marcus? If so, then maybe Russ would consider ...


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    OKC is ed no matter what. They need to do SA a solid and help us take out the dubs and KD this upcoming season imo

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    Any trade fantasy involving LMA is re ed. Kawhi and Westbrook is simply not enough and is a lateral move tbh. spurs can pursue him in FA next year

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    OKC is ed no matter what. They need to do SA a solid and help us take out the dubs and KD this upcoming season imo
    Not necessarily. I think Celtics would give up enough to make it worth OKC's while. Same thing with MIL since I think their FO can be had. It's just in how Presti plays it and hopefully if they can control Westbrook enough for him to just keep quiet during process

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    I wouldn't involve Murray in any way. Not for a year rental.

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