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    Any trade fantasy involving LMA is re ed. Kawhi and Westbrook is simply not enough and is a lateral move tbh. spurs can pursue him in FA next year
    Yep, and what message does it send to free agents when we get our biggest free agent in franchise history and then trade him the next year?

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    I wouldn't involve Murray in any way. Not for a year rental.
    The Spurs wouldn't make a trade for Westbrook unless he agreed to an extension. Even at age 27, Westbrook has a higher ceiling in his pinky finger than Murray has in his entire body so if OKC wants Murray, they can have him.

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    The Spurs wouldn't make a trade for Westbrook unless he agreed to an extension. Even at age 27, Westbrook has a higher ceiling in his pinky finger than Murray has in his entire body so if OKC wants Murray, they can have him.
    Agreed on the first point but your second sucks donkey balls. We have no idea what Murrays ceiling is and if he is as dedicated to growing as Kawhi, he could be as good or better than Westbrook, in the end.

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    Let's just concentrate on the big, and that would be enough

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    Agreed on the first point but your second sucks donkey balls. We have no idea what Murrays ceiling is and if he is as dedicated to growing as Kawhi, he could be as good or better than Westbrook, in the end.
    Sorry, I have to agree with Hoops on this one. If they want Murray, and Spurs get Westbrook in the trade, you do it 100 times out of 100. Kawhi and Aldridge are win now candidates. That would be a potent nucleus.

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    If Westbrook was serious about revenge and winning an NBA le >>>>> just go to the Spurs and just do it!

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    If Westbrook was serious about revenge and winning an NBA le >>>>> just go to the Spurs and just do it!
    It's going to be interesting to see what he chooses and would tell a lot about what kind of player he is/or values most.

    LA - Lifestyle and win later
    BOS - Great potential to win now
    SAS - Win now
    MIL - Great potential to win now
    OKC- Good potential but needs another player to help. Definitely could grow as a leader and be 'his' team w/Presti getting another piece.

    In the end, at least for this year, it will be based on what OKC wants and not Westbrook most likely meaning SAS are out (they won't accept a TP type of trade for him).

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    I would hardly say Milwaukee has great potential to win now imo...didn't they regress last season? A lot is riding on them moving Monroe and Giannis becoming a legit top 10 player

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    I suggested two guys. Murray as an off the ball guy. Let's assume he doesn't know about the PG spot and needs to learn. If he can play defense and shoot a 3, play him mostly off the ball. He probably will take off on his own on occasion bc he's a transition player, but he needs to be coached just like Tony. He's more likely to give someone fits with good coaching to someone on defense, will grab loose balls, boards, than Tony will and he will probably make an energy play here or there. That's more than Tony does on defense. In the initial Tony stages when he was a Dejounte age, from my understanding it was all "give Timmy the Ball". Dejounte can give Kawhi, Paul and LMA and whoever the ball, just the same, while he develops his own game. The Spurs don't need a ball dominant old fashioned old PG who is not even a good passer right this second.

    The other idea I had for Pop if things were too disorganized out there and what he really wanted was a leader and game manager. Then Slowmo is that guy. He's the most unorthodox guy we have, but he's a true PG/game manager in the sense that he will look for teammates and get them the ball, will control tempo, understand every set, timing, etc. He's the most cerebral of the young players in the team and if the team is looking for leadership in the young crew, he has it. He won't be prone to heroballing or throwing the ball away. Heck I don't know if it will work, but he's done it b4. He was actually directing the offense from the 4 spot in SL. He did that in garbage time last season too. The Spurs are going somewhere with him. I just can't tell exactly, but directing an offense from whatever spot has been a part of it.

    In the end, it doesn't matter, I know Pop will stay traditional. I just thought its about time that Pop starts throwing wrinkles out there for others to worry about. I mean this is if those Monroe rumors are true, which they probably aren't.

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    i second the motion, i think the Spurs should at least try Kyle as point forward.....

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    We should be up 30 in 15 mins or less though... at that point you can trot in Archiholdthemayo, tbh

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    It's going to be interesting to see what he chooses and would tell a lot about what kind of player he is/or values most.

    LA - Lifestyle and win later
    BOS - Great potential to win now
    SAS - Win now
    MIL - Great potential to win now
    OKC- Good potential but needs another player to help. Definitely could grow as a leader and be 'his' team w/Presti getting another piece.

    In the end, at least for this year, it will be based on what OKC wants and not Westbrook most likely meaning SAS are out (they won't accept a TP type of trade for him).

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    Correct!

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    At least the Celtics and the Bucks will make the East interesting at least this year....

    Hope to have NBA TV feature more of them....

    im currently choosing between the two of them for my second favorite team, hmmm

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    At least the Celtics and the Bucks will make the East interesting at least this year....

    Hope to have NBA TV feature more of them....

    im currently choosing between the two of them for my second favorite team, hmmm
    Pistons on the come up too!

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    Lol @ people overrating the Celtics. They're trash. They just look promising because the play in the east. They're far from being a serious le contender.

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    Lol @ people overrating the Celtics. They're trash. They just look promising because the play in the east. They're far from being a serious le contender.
    would trade pop for stevens in a heartbeat tho

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    would trade pop for stevens in a heartbeat tho
    Tbh.

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    East was better than the west last year. Boston probably wins 55 games playing in the west.

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    would trade pop for stevens in a heartbeat tho
    I'm a big fan of Stevens. He's going to be there a long time, I think.

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    East was better than the west last year. Boston probably wins 55 games playing in the west.
    Lol. Lay off the crack.

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    Sorry, I have to agree with Hoops on this one. If they want Murray, and Spurs get Westbrook in the trade, you do it 100 times out of 100. Kawhi and Aldridge are win now candidates. That would be a potent nucleus.
    If Westbrook came with an extension I'd include Murray in the trade. Without the extension, no.

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    Lol @ people overrating the Celtics. They're trash. They just look promising because the play in the east. They're far from being a serious le contender.
    Yeah. The Celtics aren't winning anything any time soon. Their roster is still a bunch of good bench players with a couple maybe standouts.

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    East was better than the west last year. Boston probably wins 55 games playing in the west.
    ?

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    Lol. Lay off the crack.
    imo

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    Westbrook should be on his knees begging Presti to trade him to the Spurs. Even with Westbrook there odds are Thunder are not making the playoffs. If the Spurs can keep the core of LMA, Leonard, Gasol and manage to get Westbrook they can compete with the Warriors big 4.

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    Lol. Lay off the crack.
    Portland would have been an 8th seed in east.

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