Tony Parker Vs Manu Ginobili...

[SASdynasty!]

I'm citing the commonest of NBA knowledge here. I'll get you on the right track by pointing out that 3 points is worth more than 2 points and that at the free throw line shooting percentages are generally very high.

If you understand those basic things and manage to draw some conclusions within this player comparison context then we can get to Manu's superior advanced stats across the board.

Oh I guarantee we can find some advanced stats from the endless supply of formulas. You've got dozens (if not hundreds) to choose from. My argument was more based on the fact that Parker scores more points, has more assists, and shoots better from the field than Manu. If you want to start looking at free throw percentages and the fact that Manu played against second units most of his career, be my guest. I bet his BPM is great against those scrubs.

[Mikeanaro]

No need for a game 7 had 8 turnovers never happened, tbh.

Also no finals w/o MVParker

Lol no need, well Porker ruined game 6 too what are you talking about?
Dont try to make a fake legend like Maradona, MVPorker sucked ass.

Where is that fact? MVPorker is a padstating POS, lets talk about his dominance vs OKC in 2012...

[SASdynasty!]

Like Manu in 2007-2008 right? Came off the bench and stilll put 19.5 points per game.

lmao TP

On 46% too, one of Manu's better shooting seasons.

[Diego20]

Also forgot to mention, yeah TP averages more points per game than Manu but he also let enemy's PG score more too, because his D sucks

TP score 18 points but the other team's PG score 99999

[SASdynasty!]

Lol no need, well Porker ruined game 6 too what are you talking about?
Dont try to make a fake legend like Maradona, MVPorker sucked ass.

Where is that fact? MVPorker is a padstating POS, lets talk about his dominance vs OKC in 2012...

You mean when Parker put up 29/12 in Game 6 and Manu put up 10/1? Are you blaming Parker for trying to send the series to 7?

The series where Parker outplayed Westbrook but didn't have any help?

[ducks]

Surprisingly, no stats have been posted yet. Oh wait, this is Spurstalk...never mind.

Career regular season:

Ginobili: 14.0/4.0/3.7 on 45% shooting
Parker: 16.6/5.9/2.9 on 49% shooting

Career playoffs:

Ginobili: 14.7/3.9/4.2 on 43% shooting
Parker: 18.2/5.2/3.0 on 46% shooting

Best individual season:

Ginobili: 19.5/4.8/4.5 on 46% shooting
Parker: 22.0/6.9/3.1 on 51% shooting

Best 5 year regular season window:

Ginobili: 16.8/4.2/4.1 on 46% shooting
Parker: 18.9/6.0/3.3 on 51% shooting

Best individual playoff run:

Ginobili: 20.8/5.8/4.2 on 51% shooting
Parker: 28.6/6.8/4.2 on 55% shooting

Best 5 year playoff window:

Ginobili: 18.0/4.0/4.4 on 43% shooting
Parker: 21.3/5.5/3.6 on 49% shooting

Best individual playoff series:

Ginobili: 22.2/4.8/6.2 on 49% shooting (not even the best player on the team in that series)
Parker: 29.6/7.0/3.4 on 52% shooting

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tp easily
also tp finals mvp

[TheGreatYacht]

Lol no need, well Porker ruined game 6 too what are you talking about?
Dont try to make a fake legend like Maradona, MVPorker sucked ass.

Where is that fact? MVPorker is a padstating POS, lets talk about his dominance vs OKC in 2012...

Parker put us up 5 with 30 seconds remaining, what the are you talking about? Don't try semen shield that POS Argie like you do with Missi

2012 against OKC? Sure thing bro let's compare http://www.basketball-reference.com/...-vs-spurs.html

MVParker - 21.5ppg, 3.8rpg, 6.3apg, 48.1FG%
Manure - 18.5ppg, 3.8rpg, 3.3apg, 50FG%

Advantage Parker

[Mouth is Bleeding]

Oh I guarantee we can find some advanced stats from the endless supply of formulas. You've got dozens (if not hundreds) to choose from. My argument was more based on the fact that Parker scores more points, has more assists, and shoots better from the field than Manu. If you want to start looking at free throw percentages and the fact that Manu played against second units most of his career, be my guest. I bet his BPM is great against those scrubs.

You're still coming up short on the 3>2 fact and free-throws, hence why you think Tony has shot better or more efficient.

Manu has always had an elite true shooting percentage.

[itzsoweezee]

I'm almost certain Manu has the better advanced stats, especially if you're comparing on a per minutes basis.

[SuperCam]

head of the snake 1 fmvp

maure 0

[TheGreatYacht]

You're still coming up short on the 3>2 fact and free-throws, hence why you you think Tony has shot better or more efficient.

Manu has always had an elite true shooting percentage.

TS%

but Manure can hit free throws better

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm almost certain Manu has the better advanced stats, especially if you're comparing on a per minutes basis.

Boban puts up Shaq numbers on a per minute basis. Not really a good measure tool since the player with less minutes always has an advantage

[TheGreatYacht]

head of the snake 1 fmvp

maure 0

One of the most knowledgable posters on the forum preaching, per par

[SASdynasty!]

TS%

but Manure can hit free throws better

Except for certain moments, of course. But yes, overall Manu was a better free throw shooter. Woohoo! TS%!!

[SASdynasty!]

Boban puts up Shaq numbers on a per minute basis. Not really a good measure tool since the player with less minutes always has an advantage

Off the chart advanced stats. Has nothing to do with playing less minutes against scrubs.

[TheGreatYacht]

Except for certain moments, of course. But yes, overall Manu was a better free throw shooter. Woohoo! TS%!!

Manure's FT% drops to 50% when the pressure is on. It's known to happen tbh

[Mouth is Bleeding]

I'm almost certain Manu has the better advanced stats, especially if you're comparing on a per minutes basis.

Of course. Almost any stat worth anything is Manu>>>Parker.

I can't believe everyone doesn't know that. I guess the many trolls here and all their noise just drown any remotely worthwhile discussion.

Even something like the turnover percentages are very close (14.9 vs 13.8), and it's really only among the most ignorant here that people think of Manu as turnover prone, he isn't if you care to actually look deeper, and I think if we really dig deep and analyse the value of different type assists to relative open 3s or layups over long 2s (from Timmy for an example) Manu will do very well compared to anyone, including of course Parker.

[ducks]

I'm almost certain Manu has the better advanced stats, especially if you're comparing on a per minutes basis.

prove it

[Mouth is Bleeding]

prove it

Jesus christ dude stop being a lazy biased bum and look it up at basketball reference. It's all there.

[SASdynasty!]

Parker's first playoff game (vs Gary Payton): 21 pts on 75% shooting.
Ginobili's first playoff game (vs Joe Johnson): 11 pts on 22% shooting.

[SASdynasty!]

Jesus christ dude stop being a lazy biased bum and look it up at basketball reference. It's all there.

You're the one making the claim. Burden of proof yo.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

No what's comical is inability to understand 3>2 or simply making this kind of stupidity a main trolling focus.

Waste of time.

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker's first playoff game (vs Gary Payton): 21 pts on 75% shooting.
Ginobili's first playoff game (vs Joe Johnson): 11 pts on 22% shooting.

I'm sure that 22% is misleading. Can you put their TS% up?

[Mouth is Bleeding]

You're the one making the claim. Burden of proof yo.

here start cherry picking and continue stupid trolling

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ginobma01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...parketo01.html

or get smarter, learn what stats are worth anything, look at them, mainly under "advanced" use your ability to see things and hopefully realise, if your brain is working, that virtually all Manu's numbers are better than Tony's.

[SASdynasty!]

All-Star:

Parker: 6x
Ginobili: 2x

All-NBA:

Parker: 4x
Ginobili: 2x