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Thanks, It was a genuine thought. I want trying to be snarky.
Because Dirk never actively sabotaged his team, has been healthy,, hasn't actively prevented free agents from choosing Dallas, had previously given up money.....I could go on
Thanks, It was a genuine thought. I want trying to be snarky.
Is Eric Bledsoe going to be a FA next summer?
dirk shoulda gone somewhere else.
the warriors have a 7 foot rookie... a 33 year old zaza, a 32 year old varejao... everyone else on the team is 6'9" or shorter. if zaza or varejao get hurt, west will get playing time at the center position. he will not be able to out rebound tristan thompson in the finals.
westbrook can attack their front court.
Yes, because we obviously work for the front office.
First, I think there are teams better positioned ot make an offer:
Milwaukee-Monroe, Jabari (might be a good moment to sell high on him still, dude is looking like a bust for a franchise player), any host of other guys not named Antetoukoumpo.
Boston-too many guys to name, can probably offer a pretty good package, because they have a surpluss already
Miami-Dragic
LA-Clarkson, a lot of other guys
Philly-a plethora of bigs
Spurs- old dudes Spurs are loathe to trade, or 1 guy in a good value contract in Danny + prospect and pick to sweeten deal.
Valuing the the e pieces is so subjective. Let's just sum it up this way: the guys we are trading are of more value to the Spurs than they are for OKC. Of the vets:
1. Tony or Manu (with his consent). HOF vets are at premium for Pop. Pop would rather retire than trade these guys. Manu lifetime achievement award recently proves it, and what about that Tony contract right? Pop isn't trading these guys.
2. Danny? Might be the best trade piece. He is still a roleplayer with a very limited skillset and who is really of value to an elite team with superstars already. Send Danny to a bad team and he'll be hot garbage sad to say. Probably needs to involve a third team to make this work for both Danny and OKC.
Of the young players, really only Anderson, Murray and Bertans have value and not as much to others as they do to the Spurs.
1. Bertans' injury history and not having played in the NBA yet, plus the fact he's got a limited skillset (is he going to be better than Anthony Morrow who is already a deadeye shooter but a bad defender and OKC already has in its roster?) doesn't make him that appealing. He's not a prize, let's just say. Yet he's a deadeye shooter we need in a super cheap contract and we can't replace him with dleague level talent. He has tremendous value for the current Spurs.
2. Murray might turn out to be a requirement for an OKC trade, yet he could just be an energy player with a pinhead of a brain for BBIQ and his lack of a winning history is concerning. A guy analytics hate, inefficient and TO prone. If he's the prize, there could be better guys to be had from OKC perspective, see all teams above ^. Yet for the Spurs, who are very patient with their draft picks' development, he might be the highest upside youngster they have with a skillset that they really need and him being that young, it's not unrealistic to expect significant improvement in the next 2-3 years. Raw as he is, he's definitely worth it to the Spurs. A 20 year old version of him can be had in JSimms but the upside and potential for improvement is not the same.
3. Anderson, may still be an engima for OKC and him being unathletic makes him unappealing. Unless you appreciate skill and brainy players you probably don't care much for him, and if you don't like him, that just means we don't have much to offer then. And yet, he's been of tremendous value to the Spurs. He was already playing 20 minutes per game just last season from Jan-April in a 67 win team. It's not a reach to say he's a rotation player at this point and at the very least would play those same 20 minutes next season, maybe more. He's a guy Pop has started to rely on and who can play 3 positions, thus filling in a lot of gaps through the season. A realized Anderson in a couple of years when he's 24 might be a truly apositional guy who presents problems for others, with 3 pt shooting, passing, and leadership. I don't think the Spurs want him to lose that quality of being able to play all positions. He has value to the Spurs and him being as unique as he is, you will not find a single guy out there that can do what he does in the dleague.
So bottom line: our guys are of a lot more value to us than they are to others and not easily replaced if they get gambled away and we strike out. Plus we lose a pick, plus a veteran.
Me no likey.Now if Russ were to guarantee he's going to reup with the Spurs that changes everything. but just a gamble? No. And there are teams out there that can gamble better.
I think he will get something, but he does need to lower demands. If Russ decides to cooperate with OKC by agreeing to an extension with the desitination team it changes things, but it's unknown what is in his mind. If Presti doesn't have his cooperation, he will have to lower demands, but will probably still get at least one pick and a player from some team IMO. Heck, Dallas overpaid for Rondo, sending a pick and rotation player to Boston. Russ can fetch at least that.
The only feasible trade for WestBrick is Softridge along with say a Kyle for Sabonis swap. If WestBrick doesn't re-up then use the cap space on Blake & maybe George Hill. If Pau opts out then go after Nerlens Noel.Me no likey.
IMO, at least for me, Dirk gave the franchise good years and took less before to get chances at a better roster. At this point, they have done all they could for the roster and are not getting anyone better. I imagine if someone worth it like Durant was coming over, Dirk would take much less (like Manu and Tim did last season for LMA), but considering they are not getting anyone worth it, he's en led to get his due (like Manu this season... $14 mill for Manu is about the same per game/minute as $25 for Nowitzki, he still starts and is their main scorer, or at least was last season. Sad to say for Dirk, Manu has a better team and more support. I am all for letting Dirk get his due. Without him, Mavs may not even be putting buts in seats.
no he still has 3 years remaining and no POs.
I can't emphasize enough that Russ is not going to sign an extension with anyone no matter what (except in the absurdly rare possibility that some team has the cap space to give him a raise, but that's not really worth talking about). Assuming he signs a normal extension, the max he can get is $57.75M/3 ($19.25M APY). A new deal for Russ would be worth $131.1M/4 (non-Bird -- $32.78M APY ) or $176.54M/5 (Bird -- $35.31M APY). The difference is staggering.
Very true. But do you agree that even without extension he's worth trading for? IMO if team does pull trigger they'd have upper hand signing him in the summer
Of course he's worth trading for without an extension -- especially this far out from next summer. He's not worth quite as much as he would be, but he's still worth quite a bit. But no, with or without an extension, he's not worth Aldridge.
As you can see, I am erring on being conservative. I guess we will see what is PATFO new philosophy from now on.
Wouldn't want that proposed trade anyway.
Westbrook, Green, Leonard, Sabonis, Gasol isn't better than the current lineup.
I didn't mention anything about Aldridge...
In your heart you did.
Wow good work. Having his birds rights in Texas, should be a sizable advantage me thinks. Attractive organization, players, money. How much does locale mean to him? In my mind is LA but they are a few years away from contending even if they sign someone like Blake, somehow, they still are second tier. San Antonio with birds rights might be the best option all things considered. That's if we have enough to make a deal and if we want to give that much up for him. With how attractive out situation might be maybe you just wait for next year but then you can't afford Pau and he would have to be willing to a) take less or b) opt out for a new place. Trading for him would be much easier to have a better team then losing more and trading players to make room. Imo. Cause if you wait, you most likely lose Pau, and Danny. Manu retires, you lose Patty and maybe Simmons. But you have your youth and your picks.
So it depends I guess, what you want. I'm a little all over the place on the subject right now. Keeping Murray and Anderson without losing pick/picks does seem like the way to go though, cause either way Danny has to go, and we aren't gonna be able to afford patty anways and Simmons will probably be cheap again.
It comes down to Pau or youth. Trade or sign. Trade increases the odds of resigning him by how much I don't know.
But him coming here is viable imo. We are a very attractive situation right now. We have 20 years of glory, the model franchise, and our coaching and front office is second to none. Basketball wise we are the best option now that golden state has its players locked up. We should be very excited. Only thing going against us is locale but Westbrook is from a small market already and had learned to make due just fine so maybe locale isn't that huge on his list.
Hahaha naw man. But if Spurs/OKC deal happens I'll get last laugh
Nope. It'd be Alrdige, Mills and pick for Westbrook and McGary
Pop is not separating LMA from his family after that was the reason he signed with the Spurs in the first place.
That is not how Pop/RC operates, especially after preaching family family family when talking about the team.
HE is NOT being traded. It is NOT happening.
Man we have some really out this world GM's in here. Some Billy Kings and whoever's in charge of Sacramento's moves from time to time in here. Some people just don't understand the spurs way even after following them for years...
: cheers
Oh yeah that was his reason??
Supposedly one of them. He'd be closish to his mother in Dallas if he were traded to OKC...
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